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Ballbright
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For those that don't understand why I'm so bent over this, here is just one sentence from Billyvassi that explains why...

Originally posted by billyvassi


I IMed catspaw and asked if he would like that CB, he said yes and offered a fair trade for him of equal levels. He didn't even know I was gutting a team.




Aside from the outright lie that the trade was for "equal levels" (it was an inactive player who had been that way all season), he admits to contacting an owner of a team he was on with the sole purpose of bettering that team at the expense of the one he was GMing.

He admits he is gutting the team, he admits he contacted the owner of the team he is on (Catspaw27), and he admits to setting up the deal. BillyVasssi knew, from the Bandit's private forum, that Catspaw27 wanted a CB.

Gutting is illegal. Trading players from a team you're gutting to a team you're on is unethical.

Colluding, as defined by this site, is stripping a team of it's resources for the purpose of benefiting another. I'll understand if you don't see it the way I do, but that is what I see having occurred here.

The fact that Billy mislead the mods and others in the original thread claiming not to have traded people to teams he was on, and the fact that the Bandits attempted to cover it up when one of their own was honest enough to point it out, only exacerbates the look of impropriety here.

Those are the issues to me...everything else in this convoluted thread is peripheral.



 
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Hey do you want to go out some time?
 
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Originally posted by Ballbright
For those that don't understand why I'm so bent over this, here is just one sentence from Billyvassi that explains why...

Originally posted by billyvassi



I IMed catspaw and asked if he would like that CB, he said yes and offered a fair trade for him of equal levels. He didn't even know I was gutting a team.




Aside from the outright lie that the trade was for "equal levels" (it was an inactive player who had been that way all season), he admits to contacting an owner of a team he was on with the sole purpose of bettering that team at the expense of the one he was GMing.

He admits he is gutting the team, he admits he contacted the owner of the team he is on (Catspaw27), and he admits to setting up the deal. BillyVasssi knew, from the Bandit's private forum, that Catspaw27 wanted a CB.

Gutting is illegal. Trading players from a team you're gutting to a team you're on is unethical.

Colluding, as defined by this site, is stripping a team of it's resources for the purpose of benefiting another. I'll understand if you don't see it the way I do, but that is what I see having occurred here.

The fact that Billy mislead the mods and others in the original thread claiming not to have traded people to teams he was on, and the fact that the Bandits attempted to cover it up when one of their own was honest enough to point it out, only exacerbates the look of impropriety here.

Those are the issues to me...everything else in this convoluted thread is peripheral.





OK, so which part of "The mods have reviewed this trade and decided to take no action" didn't you understand? Complaining about it, as you have for 88095 pages (and 4598976 minutes that you'll never get back) hasn't done a thing.

I understand that if this were "Ballbright Blitz" you would have taken action to insure all parties involved were put to death. But it isn't.

Learn to let it go man. Otherwise one day we will all mourn at the loss of ballbright because your high blood pressure will pop a vein in your neck, or Bort will just not put up with your whining anymore.

Let it go.
 
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Originally posted by billyvassi
Here's an interesting thing: Bort just made a bunch of new rules about gutting and collusion for next season. Nothing that happened is against them either. lolz.


Yeah I saw that. Evidently what you and I did wasn't against the rules then, and wouldn't be against the rules in the foreseeable future.

But there are some who would have you worship a different god...
 
Ballbright
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Yawn.

Billy and Catspaw27 are still liars.

Fin.
 
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For the record, Mojo Dojo was 3rd on the depth chart in our game (IC Incinerators) against the Bandits.

Edit: In the FB position
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guenaj15
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Originally posted by sears3820
God damn, some of you guys take this shit way too serious.




Yeah man
 
BradyFTW
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Originally posted by guenaj15
Originally posted by sears3820

God damn, some of you guys take this shit way too serious.




Yeah man



FFS, this is seriously ridiculous. At this point, Ballbright is pretty much the only reason why this thing can't just die. Even Joe seems like he'd rather it just go away; he made his point, and what's done is done. Too bad Ballbright's too clueless to get the hint.

(and before you say "you're keeping it alive by posting!!!1!", I'd like to point out that whether I post or not, you're going to keep beating the absolute shit out of this dead horse, so I'm not changing anything).
Last edited May 28, 2008 23:33:23
 
Ballbright
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Originally posted by BradyFTW
Originally posted by guenaj15

Originally posted by sears3820


God damn, some of you guys take this shit way too serious.




Yeah man



FFS, this is seriously ridiculous. At this point, Ballbright is pretty much the only reason why this thing can't just die. Even Joe seems like he'd rather it just go away; he made his point, and what's done is done. Too bad Ballbright's too clueless to get the hint.

(and before you say "you're keeping it alive by posting!!!1!", I'd like to point out that whether I post or not, you're going to keep beating the absolute shit out of this dead horse, so I'm not changing anything).


If you'd bothered with even the most cursory of examinations, you'd see that you are entirely wrong. You'd note that I only respond to things...it isn't me who isn't letting it die...
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Originally posted by BradyFTW
Originally posted by guenaj15

Originally posted by sears3820


God damn, some of you guys take this shit way too serious.




Yeah man



FFS, this is seriously ridiculous. At this point, Ballbright is pretty much the only reason why this thing can't just die. Even Joe seems like he'd rather it just go away; he made his point, and what's done is done. Too bad Ballbright's too clueless to get the hint.

(and before you say "you're keeping it alive by posting!!!1!", I'd like to point out that whether I post or not, you're going to keep beating the absolute shit out of this dead horse, so I'm not changing anything).


there was absolutely no point in posting this
 
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There was no point in posting this either:

My dog is 17 months old.
 
billyvassi
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I just got 30 PMs from people saying they loved my post about my dog being 17 months old.
 
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uhhhhhhh no
 
Ballbright
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Originally posted by billyvassi
There was no point in posting this either:

My dog is 17 months old.


Originally posted by billyvassi
I just got 30 PMs from people saying they loved my post about my dog being 17 months old.




See what I mean? It's just Billy and Cats typing nonsense in here, hoping that by boring everyone to death, it'll go away.


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