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He said the owner taking over was a friend of his after I got him and his guys, because he said he didnt have the time required. But I dont know much about the Mambas and what happened afterwards other than what I have been told. But like I said I did not cheat. And thats that. And I just dont feel these guys reputations deserve the tarnishing they are receiving, like I said you will see the admins response, and that will be the judgement.

edit for miscommunication.
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General Terms
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Originally posted by mgse
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Err sorry bud but you mis spelled the word WIN just then. You see there is no H or E in it. But yes I do continue to want to win which I intend to do, but not like a sissy. Winning like a sissy is what cheaters do. I hope you can get yourself off that team man, I really do.


Goddamn you are clever. Someday, I hope I am half as cool as you.


What are you talking about? Quite clearly you ARE half as cool as I am.


BTW, dumb question, why do you have so many high level players who used to be part of the Honolulu Skulls?


Who was part of the honolulu skulls and who cares anyway? My team is mostly originals, some trades, and some FA signings. I see where you are going though, so go ahead with your water muddying tact. Pretty soon this entire league will be nothing but, "Hey I once saw such and such player that is on the Naked Mole Rats playing for the St. Judes Satanists in the bronx FFF #5 league...COLLUSION COLLUSION!" Lets keep it real ok Kool aid drinker?
 
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Originally posted by General Terms
Who was part of the honolulu skulls and who cares anyway? My team is mostly originals, some trades, and some FA signings. I see where you are going though, so go ahead with your water muddying tact. Pretty soon this entire league will be nothing but, "Hey I once saw such and such player that is on the Naked Mole Rats playing for the St. Judes Satanists in the bronx FFF #5 league...COLLUSION COLLUSION!" Lets keep it real ok Kool aid drinker?


Posted previously, check it out.

And people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. As far as kool aid drinking, you're so convinced AlCapown is wrong that you forgot about your own team. Nice selective memory. Brilliant!
 
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Originally posted by Alcapown
He said the owner taking over was a friend of his after I got him and his guys, because he said he didnt have the time required, and if it was a friend of his, wouldnt that mean that the friend knew everything going on? But I dont know much about the Mambas and what happened afterwards other than what I have been told. But like I said I did not cheat. And thats that. And I just dont feel these guys reputations deserve the tarnishing they are receiving, like I said you will see the admins response, and that will be the judgement.


Damn is that the way you treat friends now a days? Sell your friend the team but before you do you screw him in the ass by taking 10 guys from the team thus leaving him with a AAA cpu team. His team will continue to spiral downwards thanks to his "friend" for some time.
 
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Originally posted by mgse
Originally posted by Lef Grebo

This is what is called a Straw Man. And frankly I am surprised to see mgse use it.
Calling into question a 3rd party while discussing 2 others. Classic straw man. Also, jsut to make sure I checked the generals players and did not find any that spent any time with Honolulu this season.

Frankly I am quite disappointed.


Don't care if you're disappointed. But this isn't arguing about Chattanooga anymore. This is attacking General Terms.

Anyway, not sure what you were checking...in fact, I'm pretty sure you didn't check a damn thing or just are very observant. So look again:

Mother Hubbard
Smart Shell
Boomer Brown
Sloth Tooz
Roid Rage Alzado

Theres quite a few other players that were added from other teams around week 3 - 5.


I checked his players not his teams players. I have sinced edited my post once I figured out what you where refering to.

5 players, all belonging to the same agent. Half of what came over to Chattenooga. Also, they came over as lvl 6 7 and 8s, and are now 12 - 13. That is basically equivelent to players on all the other teams here. You guys got players that are at the very highest level, or higher. And twice as many.

If you cannot see the difference you are either a) less intelligent then I gave you crdit for, or b) turning a blind eyein order to strike out at someone.

Either way, your resorting to Straw Man tactics and fallacies, which as far as I am concerned means you have given up on the actual debate and conceded.

 
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Originally posted by Lef Grebo
Originally posted by mgse

Originally posted by General Terms


Originally posted by mgse



Originally posted by General Terms




Err sorry bud but you mis spelled the word WIN just then. You see there is no H or E in it. But yes I do continue to want to win which I intend to do, but not like a sissy. Winning like a sissy is what cheaters do. I hope you can get yourself off that team man, I really do.


Goddamn you are clever. Someday, I hope I am half as cool as you.


What are you talking about? Quite clearly you ARE half as cool as I am.


BTW, dumb question, why do you have so many high level players who used to be part of the Honolulu Skulls?


This is what is called a Straw Man. And frankly I am surprised to see mgse use it.
Calling into question a 3rd party while discussing 2 others. Classic straw man. Also, if you look, all those players, who were lvl 7-8 when they signed, belong to the same player. And did not come from a AAA USA league but a AA Oceana league that were competative with this league. Unlike what we have here when the incoming players are top tier or higher for this league.

Also I counted 6 players, almost half of what came over for Chattenooga.

Apples and Oranges.

Frankly, I am disappointed with mgse and this weak Straw Man.

Frankly I am quite disappointed.


Grebo to the rescue! Way to keep us germain to the topic guy! And the research about the player signings...WOW! Honestly I had not even kept that good of track over it. How did you find that out anyway? Straw man, I had not heard that term in forever. You an attorney or something?

Seriously, this entire thing is a game and while disgusted that some people would cheat at it and obviously expressing that disgust here in this forum my flippant attitude is commeasurate with the above fact that this is just a game which of course some people find to be a bit juvenile, the attitude that is. So a sincere thank you for people like Mr. Grebo who are making sensible presentations while others like myself mouth off.
 
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Here is something I posted a while back:

Can anyone tell me what was up with the Rhode Island Lions? After they lost last night, they changed thier name to Klamath Falls Grizzlies.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1720
And either dropped all his humans or did trades for all of them in one night.
Whole new team and all of the humans that are gone seem to have a connection.

Old Lions players and thier new homes:
QB- Juice Williams now with pittburgh onslaught
RB- Jarvis Blackwell now with Chicago Storm who's owner has several players on Pittburgh Onlsaught
FB - Adian Pain went to Pittsburgh Onslaught
HB- Hunter Bilo to Pittsburgh Onslaught
WR - jamal Bush to Storm
WR- oliver Polis to Pittsburgh Onslaught
TE- Nemy Trips to pittsburgh
TE- Jake Cooley to storm
K- Kickmaster Faust to storm
OT- Jerome Harrison to pittsburgh
OT- Tre' Simons to storm
LB - Blade Sharp to pittsburgh
SS- Matt David to Atom bombs who's owner has a player on pittsburgh
G- Allen Rogers to New Orleans Voodoo who's agent also has several players on storm
G - Isaiah Barnes to new orleans who's agent also has players on storm
C - Ricardo Hightower to new orleans who's agent has players on pittburgh and storm
LB - Lincoln "Nasty Bad" Howard to new orleans same agent of barnes and rogers
CB - Pooh Onu to pittsburgh
DT - Jefferson Bramble to pittsburgh
CB - A.R. REYMAN to pittsburgh
CB - to new orleans who's agent also has a player on storm
FS - Kenyon Klock to pittsburgh (trade pending)
DE - Lucius Mack to pittsburgh
Fs - Felix Zeus to storm
DT - Lord HB Killer Atomic bombs who's agent has player on pittburgh

So thats 25 players all going to that pittsburgh connection all in one nights time...
Also whether he is the a new owner or still the same owner, the current Grizzlies owner has players on Chicago Storm.
What's Up with that? Is that legal? Oh yea and I just notice, big surprise here, Pittsburgh Onslaught won the league last season.
Owner's Assosiation please help!!
 
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The one I sold it to had full knowledge of the teams stance when he took it over. I told him which players would be there, and which ones would not. He agreed to all of that.

I even asked bort if releasing the players was a problem, again he said not unless you take the 5 mil too.

He said I wouldn't be gutting unless that 5 mil left with me.
 
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Originally posted by Lef Grebo
Either way, your resorting to Straw Man tactics and fallacies, which as far as I am concerned means you have given up on the actual debate and conceded.


nice job of drawing conclusions to try and prove a point. I concede good sir because you are just the shit Congrats on your e-reputation
 
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Originally posted by General Terms
Originally posted by Lef Grebo

Originally posted by mgse


Originally posted by General Terms



Originally posted by mgse




Originally posted by General Terms





Err sorry bud but you mis spelled the word WIN just then. You see there is no H or E in it. But yes I do continue to want to win which I intend to do, but not like a sissy. Winning like a sissy is what cheaters do. I hope you can get yourself off that team man, I really do.


Goddamn you are clever. Someday, I hope I am half as cool as you.


What are you talking about? Quite clearly you ARE half as cool as I am.


BTW, dumb question, why do you have so many high level players who used to be part of the Honolulu Skulls?


This is what is called a Straw Man. And frankly I am surprised to see mgse use it.
Calling into question a 3rd party while discussing 2 others. Classic straw man. Also, if you look, all those players, who were lvl 7-8 when they signed, belong to the same player. And did not come from a AAA USA league but a AA Oceana league that were competative with this league. Unlike what we have here when the incoming players are top tier or higher for this league.

Also I counted 6 players, almost half of what came over for Chattenooga.

Apples and Oranges.

Frankly, I am disappointed with mgse and this weak Straw Man.

Frankly I am quite disappointed.


Grebo to the rescue! Way to keep us germain to the topic guy! And the research about the player signings...WOW! Honestly I had not even kept that good of track over it. How did you find that out anyway? Straw man, I had not heard that term in forever. You an attorney or something?

Seriously, this entire thing is a game and while disgusted that some people would cheat at it and obviously expressing that disgust here in this forum my flippant attitude is commeasurate with the above fact that this is just a game which of course some people find to be a bit juvenile, the attitude that is. So a sincere thank you for people like Mr. Grebo who are making sensible presentations while others like myself mouth off.


Not an attorney, But I did in fourth at the National Debating Tournement in College back in the dark ages. Crushed Harvard and USC but got burned by a team from Odessa Texas of all places. But that is way off topic....
 
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Originally posted by Lef Grebo
Also, they came over as lvl 6 7 and 8s, and are now 12 - 13.


Mother Hubbard is 15, Sloth Tooz and Roid Rage are 14.

Does it matter when they are brought over? Should we excuse someone who brings over level 10's at week 1 because its week 1?
 
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Originally posted by Yard Dog
Originally posted by mgse

Originally posted by General Terms


Originally posted by mgse



Originally posted by General Terms




Err sorry bud but you mis spelled the word WIN just then. You see there is no H or E in it. But yes I do continue to want to win which I intend to do, but not like a sissy. Winning like a sissy is what cheaters do. I hope you can get yourself off that team man, I really do.


Goddamn you are clever. Someday, I hope I am half as cool as you.


What are you talking about? Quite clearly you ARE half as cool as I am.


BTW, dumb question, why do you have so many high level players who used to be part of the Honolulu Skulls?


I have wondered this same thing for quite some time now. Their seems to be a big link between Assasins, Skull, Pittsburgh Onslaught, Atom Bombs, and one other team that escapes my mind right now.
I have read many posts on this and am just curious.


What posts? The only link, if you can call it that, is that one of my players used to be on the team that belongs to the owner of the qb for the atom bombs. i think it is ridiculous to start questioning player connections when most all of us have multiple players on multiple teams which we may or may not own or gm or both. Yard Dog PM me with what exactly you are curious about and i will be sure to bribe er ahh i mean satisfy whatever curiosities you might have...in a strictly not personal plutonic fashion that is.
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Lef Grebo
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Originally posted by mgse
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Either way, your resorting to Straw Man tactics and fallacies, which as far as I am concerned means you have given up on the actual debate and conceded.


nice job of drawing conclusions to try and prove a point. I concede good sir because you are just the shit Congrats on your e-reputation


I don't know about being the shit, just trying to keep it real. And I know a Straw Man falalcy when I see it. ANd it is generally considered conceding an argument when you have to resort to fallacies. But that is amoung people willing to accept that there are rules for having a civil debate. Thought you were one of them, but I could be wrong.

 
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My curiousity is just that... wasn't a shout at you or accusation of cheating or whatever. I was just wondering if you knew all those guys/teams that I've spoken of. Or if they are all buddies or whatever.
 
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alot of stories changing...

- The players were on a horrid team and wanted to win, now the story is something about not having enough time to run the team...???

- The players were posted on the FA wire accoring to capone, yet only one thread has been provided as proof and only mamba's player is listed. Nothing about the other 9.

- After debating this for half a day, somehow a new story comes into play that this person who bought the raped AAA team is now a friend of mamba's conveniently making this OK because he knew of it all along.

- He 'told' bort and bort was OK with dropping 10 of the teams best players into FA, this was a late fact brought to the board.

Alot of people being criticized for talking without knowing the facts, but when we have tried to obtain the facts either they seem to be hidden and not fully provided or they come out very late at convenient times to support an argument, almost as it they've been made up. I'm having trouble keeping track of all the changes to the alibi.
 
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