Originally posted by ElementalShock
I guess Packers Failed to get Farve back! <<< EPIC FAIL >>>
Who's Farve
I guess Packers Failed to get Farve back! <<< EPIC FAIL >>>
Who's Farve
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Originally posted by durakbane
Originally posted by Packer Fan
No, the Packers swept Favre's leg. "We don't want you anymore old man interception machine. We are going with this kid that has never started and always gets hurt. That's how little we think of you Brett!"
Packers Management - guilty of an EPIC LEG SWEEP!!
Classic. Of course, your statement seems logically sound and every NFL team should have that same mentality. At least then I would then have a career as an NFL QB.
A Hall of Fame career even, if you are an arrogant, gunslinging interception machine!
Originally posted by Packer Fan
No, the Packers swept Favre's leg. "We don't want you anymore old man interception machine. We are going with this kid that has never started and always gets hurt. That's how little we think of you Brett!"
Packers Management - guilty of an EPIC LEG SWEEP!!
Classic. Of course, your statement seems logically sound and every NFL team should have that same mentality. At least then I would then have a career as an NFL QB.
A Hall of Fame career even, if you are an arrogant, gunslinging interception machine!
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Originally posted by HurricaneBear
word of advice, arguing with Packer Fan isn't worth it.
Just tell him to athletic gold off, he'll quiet down
I'm not in the mood for your "jokes" HB. I'm busy cutting on the guy that I have oftened stated could "arguably" be the greatest quarterback of all-time. But then again, if you replace a guy that could "arguably" be the greatest quarterback of all-time, then that would mean that you could be the greatest quarterback of all-time! Aaron Rodgers just might be the greatest quarterback of all-time!!!!
word of advice, arguing with Packer Fan isn't worth it.
Just tell him to athletic gold off, he'll quiet down
I'm not in the mood for your "jokes" HB. I'm busy cutting on the guy that I have oftened stated could "arguably" be the greatest quarterback of all-time. But then again, if you replace a guy that could "arguably" be the greatest quarterback of all-time, then that would mean that you could be the greatest quarterback of all-time! Aaron Rodgers just might be the greatest quarterback of all-time!!!!
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Originally posted by Sulfadias0
Favre isn't even a top 10 QB of all time, let alone the greatest.
He is "arguably" the greatest of all-time
- Most passing yards
- Most TD's
- Most Wins
- By far, the longest starting streak
- 3 MVP's - nobody has done that, regardless of position
Yes, I think you can make a solid case that Favre is the best ever. I don't personally feel that way, but the case can be made. I stand by that.
Let's hear your top ten now.
Favre isn't even a top 10 QB of all time, let alone the greatest.
He is "arguably" the greatest of all-time
- Most passing yards
- Most TD's
- Most Wins
- By far, the longest starting streak
- 3 MVP's - nobody has done that, regardless of position
Yes, I think you can make a solid case that Favre is the best ever. I don't personally feel that way, but the case can be made. I stand by that.
Let's hear your top ten now.
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1 Favre
2 Marino
3 Manning
4 Brady
5 Young/Montana
6 Young/Montana
7 Elway
8 Unitas
9 Staubach
10 Aikman
God I hate doing that...as a Bears fan I'd much prefer a top ten RB/LB list
2 Marino
3 Manning
4 Brady
5 Young/Montana
6 Young/Montana
7 Elway
8 Unitas
9 Staubach
10 Aikman
God I hate doing that...as a Bears fan I'd much prefer a top ten RB/LB list
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1) Johnny Unitas
2) Joe Montana
3) Brett Favre
4) Dan Marino
5) John Elway
6) Warren Moon (I know he won't be on anyone else's list, but most prolific passer in professional football history)
7) Dan Fouts
8) Steve Young
9) Terry Bradshaw
10) Fran Tarkenton
Honorable mentions:
Otto Graham, Sonny Jurgensen, Roger Staubach, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, Bob Griese, Bart Starr, Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckman, Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett, Roman Gabriel, and Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, who will both eventually end up on my top 10 list bumping off Bradshaw and Tark.
2) Joe Montana
3) Brett Favre
4) Dan Marino
5) John Elway
6) Warren Moon (I know he won't be on anyone else's list, but most prolific passer in professional football history)
7) Dan Fouts
8) Steve Young
9) Terry Bradshaw
10) Fran Tarkenton
Honorable mentions:
Otto Graham, Sonny Jurgensen, Roger Staubach, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, Bob Griese, Bart Starr, Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckman, Ken Stabler, Jim Plunkett, Roman Gabriel, and Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, who will both eventually end up on my top 10 list bumping off Bradshaw and Tark.
weird. everyone's forgetting to put jim mcmahon on their lists. some kind of mass-hysteria related oversight, i imagine.
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I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
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Originally posted by TBRaiders
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
It is kind of sad that Jim McMahon has 2 Super Bowl rings.
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
It is kind of sad that Jim McMahon has 2 Super Bowl rings.
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Originally posted by TBRaiders
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
McMahon wasn't that bad, injuries had a serious impact on his career. People seem to forget that the Bears had a pretty good offense in '85 as well.
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
McMahon wasn't that bad, injuries had a serious impact on his career. People seem to forget that the Bears had a pretty good offense in '85 as well.
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Originally posted by TBRaiders
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
Two words. Trent. Dilfer.
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
Two words. Trent. Dilfer.
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Originally posted by Amokster
Originally posted by TBRaiders
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
McMahon wasn't that bad, injuries had a serious impact on his career. People seem to forget that the Bears had a pretty good offense in '85 as well.
McMahon was a mediocre QB at best. 85 was his best year and he threw for a whopping 2400 yds, 15 td's and 11 ints. We know him because he was cocky, outspoken, wore goofy headbands, sunglasses, and mostly because he had Payton and one of the best defenses ever assembled.
To give McMahon credit for his best passing season, he was top 10 in QB rating that year ('85). Right between these other two Hall of Famers:
6. Bill Kenney · KAN 83.6
7. Jim McMahon* · CHI 82.6
8. Dieter Brock · RAM 82.0
Wait a minute, who the hell are those other guys? (Guys in the wrong place at the wrong time, unlike the great Jim McMahon)
Originally posted by TBRaiders
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
McMahon wasn't that bad, injuries had a serious impact on his career. People seem to forget that the Bears had a pretty good offense in '85 as well.
McMahon was a mediocre QB at best. 85 was his best year and he threw for a whopping 2400 yds, 15 td's and 11 ints. We know him because he was cocky, outspoken, wore goofy headbands, sunglasses, and mostly because he had Payton and one of the best defenses ever assembled.
To give McMahon credit for his best passing season, he was top 10 in QB rating that year ('85). Right between these other two Hall of Famers:
6. Bill Kenney · KAN 83.6
7. Jim McMahon* · CHI 82.6
8. Dieter Brock · RAM 82.0
Wait a minute, who the hell are those other guys? (Guys in the wrong place at the wrong time, unlike the great Jim McMahon)
i was suprised to not see dieter brock on anyone's list as well. good point.
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Originally posted by Bazooka8402
Originally posted by TBRaiders
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
Two words. Trent. Dilfer.
Dilfer was a great college QB who never lived up to pro expectations, but still turned out to be very comparable to Mcmahon. I'd rate them very close on an all-time list of QB's.
I do put them both on that top 5 list of worst QB's to win a superbowl along with Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, and I still haven't figured out who else I would put on that list.
1) Doug Williams
2) Mark Rypien
3) Jim McMahon
4) Trent Dilfer
5) Jeff Hostetler? Brad Johnson? Eli Manning?
Below is a list of the starting QB from the winning team from every superbowl.
Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers - SB I
Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers - SB II
Joe Namath, New York Jets - SBIII
Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs - SB IV
Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts - SB V
Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - SB VI
Bob Griese, Miami Dolphins - SB VII
Bob Griese, Miami Dolphins - SB VIII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB IX
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB X
Ken Stabler, Oakland Raiders - SB XI
Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - SB XII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XIII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XIV
Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders - SB XV
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XVI
Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins - SB XVII
Jim Plunkett, Los Angeles Raiders - SB XVIII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XIX
Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears - SB XX
Phil Simms, New York Giants - SB XXI
Doug Williams, Washington Redskins - SB XXII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIV
Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants - SB XXV
Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins - SB XXVI
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXVII
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXVIII
Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIX
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXX
Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers - SB XXXI
John Elway, Denver Broncos - SB XXXII
John Elway, Denver Broncos - SB XXXIII
Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams - SB XXXIV
Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens - SB XXXV
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXVI
Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - SB XXXVII
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXVIII
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXIX
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XL
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts - SB XLI
Eli Manning, New York Giants - SB XLII
Originally posted by TBRaiders
I like Jim McMahon and even read his book and enjoyed it, but he isn't even close to the top 50 QB's of all time. If you made a list of the 5 worst QB's to win a superbowl, he would be real close to the top of the list.
Two words. Trent. Dilfer.
Dilfer was a great college QB who never lived up to pro expectations, but still turned out to be very comparable to Mcmahon. I'd rate them very close on an all-time list of QB's.
I do put them both on that top 5 list of worst QB's to win a superbowl along with Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, and I still haven't figured out who else I would put on that list.
1) Doug Williams
2) Mark Rypien
3) Jim McMahon
4) Trent Dilfer
5) Jeff Hostetler? Brad Johnson? Eli Manning?
Below is a list of the starting QB from the winning team from every superbowl.
Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers - SB I
Bart Starr, Green Bay Packers - SB II
Joe Namath, New York Jets - SBIII
Len Dawson, Kansas City Chiefs - SB IV
Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts - SB V
Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - SB VI
Bob Griese, Miami Dolphins - SB VII
Bob Griese, Miami Dolphins - SB VIII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB IX
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB X
Ken Stabler, Oakland Raiders - SB XI
Roger Staubach, Dallas Cowboys - SB XII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XIII
Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XIV
Jim Plunkett, Oakland Raiders - SB XV
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XVI
Joe Theismann, Washington Redskins - SB XVII
Jim Plunkett, Los Angeles Raiders - SB XVIII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XIX
Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears - SB XX
Phil Simms, New York Giants - SB XXI
Doug Williams, Washington Redskins - SB XXII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIII
Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIV
Jeff Hostetler, New York Giants - SB XXV
Mark Rypien, Washington Redskins - SB XXVI
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXVII
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXVIII
Steve Young, San Francisco 49ers - SB XXIX
Troy Aikman, Dallas Cowboys - SB XXX
Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers - SB XXXI
John Elway, Denver Broncos - SB XXXII
John Elway, Denver Broncos - SB XXXIII
Kurt Warner, St. Louis Rams - SB XXXIV
Trent Dilfer, Baltimore Ravens - SB XXXV
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXVI
Brad Johnson, Tampa Bay Buccaneers - SB XXXVII
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXVIII
Tom Brady, New England Patriots - SB XXXIX
Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers - SB XL
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts - SB XLI
Eli Manning, New York Giants - SB XLII
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