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Because E.D. is NOT a goal line back, he's a RB that happens to score a lot of TDs.

I was comparing him to the top RBs in the NFL, he has the YPC like the best runners do, as you see in the stat lines you provided, so in terms of the yardage rate, he is the most elite in the list minus the guy he ties, but in the secondary aspect of things he demolishes them on the TD clip.

That's it, that's the case. So go vote for him!
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Originally posted by dontmeswidme
Originally posted by Galkuris

Originally posted by dontmeswidme


might as well name the DE award the Lawrence Jackson Award.

and DT award = Hot Potato award


Hot Potato has/had the D-line award name.


i know but now that it is split it should be Law Jackson for DE and Hot Potato for DT


Even though Jackson showed how over-rated he was when he goes up a real line like the Saints? 84 plays and not even 1 hurry, HAHA. Face it man he's over-rated.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Because E.D. is NOT a goal line back, he's a RB that happens to score a lot of TDs.

I was comparing him to the top RBs in the NFL, he has the YPC like the best runners do, as you see in the stat lines you provided, so in terms of the yardage rate, he is the most elite in the list minus the guy he ties, but in the secondary aspect of things he demolishes them on the TD clip.

That's it, that's the case. So go vote for him!


"The guy he ties" is Maurice Jones-Drew averaging 4.7 yards a carry with 429 attempts. I'd be curious to see if E.D. could still average 4.7 with more than just 275 attempts. For example E.D. only ran 6 times vs. Chicago with a 1.3 average. MJD ran 29 times vs. Chicago with a 2.1 average. I know who I would vote for...
 
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My bum ran 27 times for a 3.2 average and he suck despite almost tripling the total yards the Mustangs gave up all year. Just saying you cannot base anything on 1 game.
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Originally posted by Ronin

"The guy he ties" is Maurice Jones-Drew averaging 4.7 yards a carry with 429 attempts. I'd be curious to see if E.D. could still average 4.7 with more than just 275 attempts. For example E.D. only ran 6 times vs. Chicago with a 1.3 average. MJD ran 29 times vs. Chicago with a 2.1 average. I know who I would vote for...

He average 4.7 just the same but MJD couldnt score TDs!

So what if he beat him by .8 against Chicago, that just means E.D. beat him by .8 against another team. What if he ran for 7 YPC against the worst team? Well what if E.D. ran for 7.8 YPC? Why could MJD only get 7 against a bad team but E.D. could get 8?

They played the same competition and they have identical YPC. But they aren't even close in the TD generation department.

The choice is clear, it's a landslide victory for E.D. for RB of the year!
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Ronin
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I'm just saying E.D. may be good at the 40-yard dash, but could he handle a marathon with the same result? We may never know.
 
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Originally posted by ledyard2000
My bum ran 27 times for a 3.2 average and he suck despite almost tripling the total yards the Mustangs gave up all year. Just saying you cannot base anything on 1 game.


 
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Originally posted by Ronin
I'm just saying E.D. may be good at the 40-yard dash, but could he handle a marathon with the same result? We may never know.


It doesnt matter what he can do, it only matters what he DID do and he was the top performing RB on the statline by a mile and a half.

Also, if you compare him to Alstott he is lower in level than Alstott and ran behind a lower leveled OL than Alstott and still outperformed him.
 
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Originally posted by GeneralMakaveli
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It's not bias when an obscure stat that can be very misleading isn't used in comparing players.

E.D. 275 Carries with 22 TDs
Greg 490 Carries with 20 TDs

I think there a huge difference there.

If my calculations are correct a whopping 3 of those 22 TDs came against playoff teams. Not picking on ED here, this type of stat padding happened across the board - MJD was 2 of 22, Alstott 1 of 20, and Julius 3 of 21. That's 9 TDs combined in about 30 games versus good competition. For comparison, in just four games Beantown allowed 24 TDs to these four players.

So basically what it comes down to is who put the biggest beatings on the bad teams. Sounds like a great thing to argue about...
 
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That was the name of the game this year, a lot of the good teams held the RBs to few yards and no TDs, that's besides the point, for the most part, without analyzing every single yard and TD, these guys were a wash against many of the good teams, but OVERALL, every team played the same competition and the yards and the TDs were a fair shot for anybody to get it, and E.D. beat them all in the combo of YPC and TDs, hands down.
 
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Nicholas Raine is not up for best CB? I'm not a homer, but that is ridiculous.
 
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Originally posted by FairForever
Nicholas Raine is not up for best CB? I'm not a homer, but that is ridiculous.


first, LOL at the homer comment.

but to seriously address your concern. your stats don't stick out as one of the top CB. however, i would have looked more closely had your owner sent in a recommendation list. he did not. so if you care about this, take it up with him.
 
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Originally posted by Okole
Originally posted by FairForever

Nicholas Raine is not up for best CB? I'm not a homer, but that is ridiculous.


first, LOL at the homer comment.

but to seriously address your concern. your stats don't stick out as one of the top CB. however, i would have looked more closely had your owner sent in a recommendation list. he did not. so if you care about this, take it up with him.


Lol like Tim would care.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
That was the name of the game this year, a lot of the good teams held the RBs to few yards and no TDs, that's besides the point, for the most part, without analyzing every single yard and TD, these guys were a wash against many of the good teams, but OVERALL, every team played the same competition and the yards and the TDs were a fair shot for anybody to get it, and E.D. beat them all in the combo of YPC and TDs, hands down.


Why is it that you can write post after post after post about some stupid individual award, but you can only manage a one word "Inconcievable" post in the thread for the Pushovers?

Lame.
 
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Originally posted by Dope

Why is it that you can write post after post after post about some stupid individual award, but you can only manage a one word "Inconcievable" post in the thread for the Pushovers?

Lame.

Dope,

I posted more than one comment on that game, maybe you haven't been paying close enough attention?

And I'm not posting over and over again for my healthy, i'm responding to those that are making comments to me that call for a reply back, it's called common courtesy.
 
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