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Originally posted by Sequtugh
Teams that can clinch a playoff spot with a week 16 win -

Western Conference -

None - yep, not as much drama as the east but still a lot on the line for Anchorage and San Diego. I'll need clarification on the rules, but at a glance I'd say Anchorage has the inside track by virtue of their victory over San Diego. If that wasn't enough, then you go to points scored where Anchorage has an edge 312 to 279. It seems like at the end of every season people are always scrambling to figure out the tie-breakers, and this season is no different. You'd think we'd write it down or something!



If San Diego wins and Anchorage loses, then San Diego is in with an 8-8 record (vs. 7-9 for Anchorage). If Anchorage wins, they're in because both teams would be 9-7 at best and Anchorage has the head-to-head win. If both teams lose, they can go 7-9 and end up in a 3-way tie if Uncle Sam's wins. However, since Anchorage has the head-to-head on both Uncle Sam's and San Diego, Anchorage still goes.

So, like I said, in my post earlier:

Anchorage is in with a win OR a San Diego loss
San Diego is in with a win AND an Anchorage loss


And the points scored tiebreak can't be figured out yet because you need to see how many points are scored tomorrow night, first.
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Mayhem are going to clinch playoff spot tonight!


Great game; it was close, but you guys pulled out a great game!


Yes it was a great game. Could have gone either way.
 
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Originally posted by matta
Originally posted by Sequtugh

Teams that can clinch a playoff spot with a week 16 win -

Western Conference -

None - yep, not as much drama as the east but still a lot on the line for Anchorage and San Diego. I'll need clarification on the rules, but at a glance I'd say Anchorage has the inside track by virtue of their victory over San Diego. If that wasn't enough, then you go to points scored where Anchorage has an edge 312 to 279. It seems like at the end of every season people are always scrambling to figure out the tie-breakers, and this season is no different. You'd think we'd write it down or something!



If San Diego wins and Anchorage loses, then San Diego is in with an 8-8 record (vs. 7-9 for Anchorage). If Anchorage wins, they're in because both teams would be 9-7 at best and Anchorage has the head-to-head win. If both teams lose, they can go 7-9 and end up in a 3-way tie if Uncle Sam's wins. However, since Anchorage has the head-to-head on both Uncle Sam's and San Diego, Anchorage still goes.

So, like I said, in my post earlier:

Anchorage is in with a win OR a San Diego loss
San Diego is in with a win AND an Anchorage loss


And the points scored tiebreak can't be figured out yet because you need to see how many points are scored tomorrow night, first.


Good news for Anchorage is our match up for our last game.
 
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Originally posted by matta

And the points scored tiebreak can't be figured out yet because you need to see how many points are scored tomorrow night, first.


True, but you can get an idea of what you need. San Diego needs to win by 33 more points than Anchorage wins by, assuming both teams win. By comparison, Gulf State only has to score 155 more points than Akron scores to jump over Akron.
 
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Originally posted by Sequtugh
Teams that can clinch a playoff spot with a week 16 win -

Western Conference -

None - yep, not as much drama as the east but still a lot on the line for Anchorage and San Diego. I'll need clarification on the rules, but at a glance I'd say Anchorage has the inside track by virtue of their victory over San Diego. If that wasn't enough, then you go to points scored where Anchorage has an edge 312 to 279. It seems like at the end of every season people are always scrambling to figure out the tie-breakers, and this season is no different. You'd think we'd write it down or something!

In the East, these teams also clinch a playoff spot with a win:
Salem Cyber Hawks
Akron Browns
Atlanta Wolves

After that it just get's crazy. One certainty is that Scranton must win to be in the discussion. If they lose, their season is over. For the other 7 teams, a loss doesn't guarantee an exit but it means you need help. The points scored tiebreaker is as follows :

Akron - 475
Vice City - 421
New Hampshire - 388
Scranton - 370
Detroit - 360
Atlanta - 352
Salem - 334
Gulf State - 320


So, Atlanta, Salem and Gulf State are in a pickle if all the teams end up tied at 9-7.


Actually, looking at it like this means Akron is in even if they lose. We'll want clarification on the tiebreakers to make sure, but I'm pretty sure this is accurate.

Game 16 matchups are as follows (tracking the east) :
Akron vs DVDtalk
Salem vs USMC
Atlanta vs Rapid City
New Hampshire vs Death Valley
Gulf State vs Honolulu
Vice City vs San Jose
Detroit vs Midwest

Now, I'm not willing to concede anything until the games are played, but looking at it objectively I'd say the critical games are going to be Salem vs USMC and Detroit vs Midwest. Those games appear to be the most evenly matched and have the most potential to play out in an unexpected fashion (ie they aren't guaranteed wins for the east). Unfortunately for my team, we draw one of the west's best. Akron also got jobbed for a swing game like this, while Vice City, Gulf State and New Hampshire have to be smiling. The odds on those 5 games playing out like everyone thinks they will is pretty high ... but again, I'm not conceding anything until 11:05 Saturday night.






im liking this point tiebreaker thing lol and were playing a winless team this week so were all set imo go mambas

 
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I've got a head ache and I'm confused as hell!
 
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Originally posted by sgtjayb
I've got a head ache and I'm confused as hell!


To simplify, sort of:
You have a favorable matchup this week, but in the presumed second tie-breaker after head-to-head, you're currently trailing most of the teams.

For the best chance for Gulf State to advance, you need to cheer for Midwest to beat Detroit, USMC to beat Salem, and then to score 15 more points than Salem and/or 33 more than Atlanta does this week.

If Salem and Detroit both win, you need to score 33 more than Atlanta and 41 more than Detroit scores.

This is if points for is indeed the next tiebreaker, because the head-to-heads are all over the place among the 7 potential 9-7 teams.
 
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Originally posted by sgtjayb
I've got a head ache and I'm confused as hell!



Take 3 tylenol and get Griz to loan you a few of Wala Wala's whores. It'll all be over Saturday night
 
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Originally posted by Sequtugh
Originally posted by sgtjayb

I've got a head ache and I'm confused as hell!



Take 3 tylenol and get Griz to loan you a few of Wala Wala's whores. It'll all be over Saturday night


If you're messing with Wala Wala's whores, you might not live til Saturday night.
 
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I know how Salem can get in. WE win and we are in. If we win and Akron loses we get a home game!!
 
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Originally posted by jmsne
I know how Salem can get in. WE win and we are in. If we win and Akron loses we get a home game!!


Yeah, you guys have the clearest road. Win and you're in and have a home game. Lose this one, and you might not even make it in. And it sounds like USMC is gearing up to play spoiler.
 
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Originally posted by GwennA
Originally posted by sgtjayb

I've got a head ache and I'm confused as hell!


To simplify, sort of:
You have a favorable matchup this week, but in the presumed second tie-breaker after head-to-head, you're currently trailing most of the teams.

For the best chance for Gulf State to advance, you need to cheer for Midwest to beat Detroit, USMC to beat Salem, and then to score 15 more points than Salem and/or 33 more than Atlanta does this week.

If Salem and Detroit both win, you need to score 33 more than Atlanta and 41 more than Detroit scores.

This is if points for is indeed the next tiebreaker, because the head-to-heads are all over the place among the 7 potential 9-7 teams.


Thanks Gwenn.

OK then, Lets Go USMC and Midwest ya gotta help us out! And as far as the scoring points tie breaker deal well that just sucks! We have benn a defensive ball club this year with a so-so offense. We also faced 2 teams at the wrong times of the year. Michigan pre-implosion and the Gremlins after a full year of super-leveling.

OK I'm through whining it is very unbecoming of a Demon!



 
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Originally posted by sgtjayb
Originally posted by GwennA

Originally posted by sgtjayb


I've got a head ache and I'm confused as hell!


To simplify, sort of:
You have a favorable matchup this week, but in the presumed second tie-breaker after head-to-head, you're currently trailing most of the teams.

For the best chance for Gulf State to advance, you need to cheer for Midwest to beat Detroit, USMC to beat Salem, and then to score 15 more points than Salem and/or 33 more than Atlanta does this week.

If Salem and Detroit both win, you need to score 33 more than Atlanta and 41 more than Detroit scores.

This is if points for is indeed the next tiebreaker, because the head-to-heads are all over the place among the 7 potential 9-7 teams.


Thanks Gwenn.

OK then, Lets Go USMC and Midwest ya gotta help us out! And as far as the scoring points tie breaker deal well that just sucks! We have benn a defensive ball club this year with a so-so offense. We also faced 2 teams at the wrong times of the year. Michigan pre-implosion and the Gremlins after a full year of super-leveling.

OK I'm through whining it is very unbecoming of a Demon!






On the other hand, you get the schedule help of facing one of the easiest week 16 matches. Unlike Salem or Detroit, you shouldn't have to sweat out the W. Its just a matter of the points scored - and Atlanta has a tough one.
 
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Originally posted by GwennA
Originally posted by sgtjayb

Originally posted by GwennA


Originally posted by sgtjayb



I've got a head ache and I'm confused as hell!


To simplify, sort of:
You have a favorable matchup this week, but in the presumed second tie-breaker after head-to-head, you're currently trailing most of the teams.

For the best chance for Gulf State to advance, you need to cheer for Midwest to beat Detroit, USMC to beat Salem, and then to score 15 more points than Salem and/or 33 more than Atlanta does this week.

If Salem and Detroit both win, you need to score 33 more than Atlanta and 41 more than Detroit scores.

This is if points for is indeed the next tiebreaker, because the head-to-heads are all over the place among the 7 potential 9-7 teams.


Thanks Gwenn.

OK then, Lets Go USMC and Midwest ya gotta help us out! And as far as the scoring points tie breaker deal well that just sucks! We have benn a defensive ball club this year with a so-so offense. We also faced 2 teams at the wrong times of the year. Michigan pre-implosion and the Gremlins after a full year of super-leveling.

OK I'm through whining it is very unbecoming of a Demon!






On the other hand, you get the schedule help of facing one of the easiest week 16 matches. Unlike Salem or Detroit, you shouldn't have to sweat out the W. Its just a matter of the points scored - and Atlanta has a tough one.


Yes and for that I'm grateful! All we can do is win our last one and hope for the best.
 
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Originally posted by Sequtugh
Originally posted by matta


And the points scored tiebreak can't be figured out yet because you need to see how many points are scored tomorrow night, first.


True, but you can get an idea of what you need. San Diego needs to win by 33 more points than Anchorage wins by, assuming both teams win. By comparison, Gulf State only has to score 155 more points than Akron scores to jump over Akron.


If both teams win, the first tiebreaker is head-to-head games, which goes to Anchorage. The second tie-breaker (points) comes in when there's a situation like Teams A, B, and C are all tied, A beat B, B beat C, C beat A, which we don't have here (but will more than likely happen in the East).

So, Anchorage is in with a win or a San Diego loss, regardless of points.


 
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