I would throw "BlameitonBortgate" in there, always fun to throw shade at the Almighty.
I would vote for Itstaxseasongate though out of the choices offered.
I would vote for Itstaxseasongate though out of the choices offered.
Forum > Goal Line Blitz > New cheating scandal: Is Wise a cheater that throws AAA rd2 playoff games?
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Originally posted by POOPERDOG7
closethegate is als0 a great name
weather wise cheated infact said to anyone " im not game planning cause i OC for both teams" is collusion is it not? but in the end he is a lazy and let us all down so fired he got and then this thread was born. facts!!! Not sure about anyone else but that makes him a bad teammate / OC what have you and we are glad he has been removed. His pompous arse is gone.
You can't just make up a fact, then re-state that fact you made up, pretending it to be proof of something.
-TSW's DC received no additional information compared to the Hawks DC. I never said or implied TSW received additional information.
-SN is on the record here that he didn't receive additional information or even do anything significant for the playoff game.
-You need to make a lot of logical leaps for why I would even try to make TSW beat Hawks in that spot
-You'd need to make even more logical leaps to define the galaxy brain stuff I'd need to do to get Hawks to put up around 30% more yards while intentionally losing
-This thread was not created when the Hawks removed me as OC. This thread was created when I was accused of cheating.
-You guys are a bunch of sore losers so Brewnoe did the equivalent of this link while re-watching a game a dozen+ times over a few weeks, and at no point just talking to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NBfZcNU4O0
closethegate is als0 a great name
weather wise cheated infact said to anyone " im not game planning cause i OC for both teams" is collusion is it not? but in the end he is a lazy and let us all down so fired he got and then this thread was born. facts!!! Not sure about anyone else but that makes him a bad teammate / OC what have you and we are glad he has been removed. His pompous arse is gone.
You can't just make up a fact, then re-state that fact you made up, pretending it to be proof of something.
-TSW's DC received no additional information compared to the Hawks DC. I never said or implied TSW received additional information.
-SN is on the record here that he didn't receive additional information or even do anything significant for the playoff game.
-You need to make a lot of logical leaps for why I would even try to make TSW beat Hawks in that spot
-You'd need to make even more logical leaps to define the galaxy brain stuff I'd need to do to get Hawks to put up around 30% more yards while intentionally losing
-This thread was not created when the Hawks removed me as OC. This thread was created when I was accused of cheating.
-You guys are a bunch of sore losers so Brewnoe did the equivalent of this link while re-watching a game a dozen+ times over a few weeks, and at no point just talking to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NBfZcNU4O0
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Originally posted by POOPERDOG7
Not sure about anyone else but that makes him a bad teammate / OC what have you and we are glad he has been removed. His pompous arse is gone.
wise is a top5 OC. Removing him is not a wise decision.
Not sure about anyone else but that makes him a bad teammate / OC what have you and we are glad he has been removed. His pompous arse is gone.
wise is a top5 OC. Removing him is not a wise decision.
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Originally posted by Brewnoe
Interesting edit of your original post removing the "I was completely transparent and informed both teams ahead of time I would be doing nothing for the game". Because that was a bold faced lie. Maybe should call it "EditGate". You informed Hawks the day after as part of your "You hate to see it. Oh well, on to Pro" post.
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https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5342367&page=6#50228567 is the only comment or notice given to EITHER TEAM. No additional information was given to TSW compared to HH ahead of this game.
Me reviewing that comment then editing the OP to accurately reflect what was communicated is not some scandal. I'm not sure if your quote there is what was written, but regardless I'll gladly admit what was written for the first 10 hours and 6 minutes of the OP before edit was not accurate, and the edit made it accurate. I find your general loose paraphrasing of me but using quotation marks to pretend that is exactly what I said, to be misleading.
This does not change the fact pattern that no cheating took place and your web of conspiracy theories is nothing more than sour grapes
Originally posted by Brewnoe
Also selectively quoting JUST my part and not your temper tantrum like a four year old in the forums before that. The part where you praised Seattle like the next coming of Christ, said it wouldn't have mattered if you put any effort in because Seattle is just SO star spangled awesome, and then passive aggressively shat all over G's O and D, which was the angrier part of my post, defending my brother.
If you think it'll serve your purpose, you have my permission to post the entirety of that thread, since your recounting of it is completely inaccurate. The thread was made in good faith and with Gamber75's permission to try to understand the "why" behind my removal as OC, since I felt it must have been some misunderstanding. To call my good faith explanations and responses a temper tantrum, is just further fake news. I didn't think the "source" would be your response quoted in the OP where you accuse me and others of cheating.
I no longer have access to the forum, but from my memory my comments were all level-headed and honestly in a nicer tone then they should have been given the context. It was only once you showed up with your insane accusations (copied into the OP) that I removed myself from that team forum and the topic, to make this thread.
I said that TSW is capable of beating the Hawks and pointing out that SN's last full season coordinating TSW they finished final 4 in WL and has a top2 WL defense, so Hawks shouldn't be so upset at the loss to a "lesser team". That it is not some rage-worthy insult of calling Gambler a shitty coordinator. I'm not sure if your brain has been rotted by doomscrolling tiktok or what.
Originally posted by Brewnoe
Last I knew cherry picking and quoting from private messages and forums was also against forum rules. And for someone who has accused like half the veterans here of cheating yourself, you sure got your panties in a bunch fast when your allegiances were called into question. Also chose not to quote that part, where you used Mauler to defend "not game planning for either team" when we suffered your endless posts about him?? Seems pretty hypocritical.
Your "you're cheating" claims are based on being a sore loser, with zero evidence outside of the insanity you've created in your mind.
Every single time I've called out someone for cheating (equipment removal, game throwing, win sharing, etc.) it has been documented fact. At no point were any of those parties like "no that didn't happen" since in all cases it clear as day DID happen. On occasion there's a "this was an accidence" response, or a "my kid did it" response, which people can choose for themselves whether to believe. The point of my posts is to SHAME people for cheating, since we should shame people for cheating given admin's won't do anything unless people go so far over the line.
Originally posted by Brewnoe
Or maybe he just didn't want to quote the part where the ONLY agent on the team that voted to keep Wise around was Gambler himself. The rest were all abstains, or remove votes. So I'm guessing the fervor in him attacking me here, is that narcissist ego getting bruised by that.
I can't see any votes. I ended the season I thought on good terms. I offered to re-make the Hawks offense if you guys wanted to see something more conservative (to which Gambler said no, keep doing what you're doing). Then nearly 3 weeks later on the eve of the season I get a "you've been removed as OC, I don't agree with it but Brewnoe+PD7+someone are pissed so I have to do it".
Given I didn't see any votes or anything thread taking place in some private forum, and given no one asked me any questions during those 3 weeks, it's hard for me to say who voted for what and why, or what "alternate facts" were shared in that discussion.
I do think, the fact that the Hawks Owner who's also the DC as well as would be the replacement OC thought I should stay, means something.
Interesting edit of your original post removing the "I was completely transparent and informed both teams ahead of time I would be doing nothing for the game". Because that was a bold faced lie. Maybe should call it "EditGate". You informed Hawks the day after as part of your "You hate to see it. Oh well, on to Pro" post.
'https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5342367&page=6#50228567 is the only comment or notice given to EITHER TEAM. No additional information was given to TSW compared to HH ahead of this game.
Me reviewing that comment then editing the OP to accurately reflect what was communicated is not some scandal. I'm not sure if your quote there is what was written, but regardless I'll gladly admit what was written for the first 10 hours and 6 minutes of the OP before edit was not accurate, and the edit made it accurate. I find your general loose paraphrasing of me but using quotation marks to pretend that is exactly what I said, to be misleading.
This does not change the fact pattern that no cheating took place and your web of conspiracy theories is nothing more than sour grapes
Originally posted by Brewnoe
Also selectively quoting JUST my part and not your temper tantrum like a four year old in the forums before that. The part where you praised Seattle like the next coming of Christ, said it wouldn't have mattered if you put any effort in because Seattle is just SO star spangled awesome, and then passive aggressively shat all over G's O and D, which was the angrier part of my post, defending my brother.
If you think it'll serve your purpose, you have my permission to post the entirety of that thread, since your recounting of it is completely inaccurate. The thread was made in good faith and with Gamber75's permission to try to understand the "why" behind my removal as OC, since I felt it must have been some misunderstanding. To call my good faith explanations and responses a temper tantrum, is just further fake news. I didn't think the "source" would be your response quoted in the OP where you accuse me and others of cheating.
I no longer have access to the forum, but from my memory my comments were all level-headed and honestly in a nicer tone then they should have been given the context. It was only once you showed up with your insane accusations (copied into the OP) that I removed myself from that team forum and the topic, to make this thread.
I said that TSW is capable of beating the Hawks and pointing out that SN's last full season coordinating TSW they finished final 4 in WL and has a top2 WL defense, so Hawks shouldn't be so upset at the loss to a "lesser team". That it is not some rage-worthy insult of calling Gambler a shitty coordinator. I'm not sure if your brain has been rotted by doomscrolling tiktok or what.
Originally posted by Brewnoe
Last I knew cherry picking and quoting from private messages and forums was also against forum rules. And for someone who has accused like half the veterans here of cheating yourself, you sure got your panties in a bunch fast when your allegiances were called into question. Also chose not to quote that part, where you used Mauler to defend "not game planning for either team" when we suffered your endless posts about him?? Seems pretty hypocritical.
Your "you're cheating" claims are based on being a sore loser, with zero evidence outside of the insanity you've created in your mind.
Every single time I've called out someone for cheating (equipment removal, game throwing, win sharing, etc.) it has been documented fact. At no point were any of those parties like "no that didn't happen" since in all cases it clear as day DID happen. On occasion there's a "this was an accidence" response, or a "my kid did it" response, which people can choose for themselves whether to believe. The point of my posts is to SHAME people for cheating, since we should shame people for cheating given admin's won't do anything unless people go so far over the line.
Originally posted by Brewnoe
Or maybe he just didn't want to quote the part where the ONLY agent on the team that voted to keep Wise around was Gambler himself. The rest were all abstains, or remove votes. So I'm guessing the fervor in him attacking me here, is that narcissist ego getting bruised by that.
I can't see any votes. I ended the season I thought on good terms. I offered to re-make the Hawks offense if you guys wanted to see something more conservative (to which Gambler said no, keep doing what you're doing). Then nearly 3 weeks later on the eve of the season I get a "you've been removed as OC, I don't agree with it but Brewnoe+PD7+someone are pissed so I have to do it".
Given I didn't see any votes or anything thread taking place in some private forum, and given no one asked me any questions during those 3 weeks, it's hard for me to say who voted for what and why, or what "alternate facts" were shared in that discussion.
I do think, the fact that the Hawks Owner who's also the DC as well as would be the replacement OC thought I should stay, means something.
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I want to highlight that Brewnoe has not addressed any of the baseless cheating accusations in the OP, and all of his reply is just a red herring to try to change the scope of topics. Either argue for and back up your stupid as shit inaccurate claims, or backpeddle and appologize for them please. TSW did not cheat nor was granted and competitive advantage, and Brewnoe is being both a sore loser, and a crazy person who doesn't understand the sim who wanted to invent ghosts and scapegoats
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Originally posted by BLARYPALOOZA
We are in bold text now, this is next level serious now.
If you think that's something, wait until I learn how to use bold italic underlined. It'll be unreadable, but ultra serious!
We are in bold text now, this is next level serious now.
If you think that's something, wait until I learn how to use bold italic underlined. It'll be unreadable, but ultra serious!
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It's a bit funny. 14 of TSW's 28 points come from these two third down plays, which don't break that way very often. Without these two plays TSW's offense is 14 points and 260 yards instead of 28 points and 360 yards. Besides me having a very long track record of moral character, and having no incentive to want TSW to win that game over Hawks anyhow, it's beyond me how the accusation is cheating or collusion makes sense on any level at all, besides Brewnoe and friends being sore losers.
Two of TSW's offensive TD's
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=847875
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848820
Also to add this Hawks offensive play that was knocked loose on the goalline was the difference between 3 points and 7 points:
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848929
As someone who has watched and crucified people for game throwing / collusion / cheating, this is not what it looks like. Any number of plays would have changed the end score to a 3 point game in either direction.
Two of TSW's offensive TD's
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=847875
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848820
Also to add this Hawks offensive play that was knocked loose on the goalline was the difference between 3 points and 7 points:
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848929
As someone who has watched and crucified people for game throwing / collusion / cheating, this is not what it looks like. Any number of plays would have changed the end score to a 3 point game in either direction.
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Originally posted by BLARYPALOOZA
We are in bold text now, this is next level serious now.
Most think bold text is just fun and games, but it's often a gateway to ALL CAPS, which for some can eventually lead to the dreaded !!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Silver lining is this game predates the exponentially stronger clown emoji, which has ended many online relationships far too soon. Be safe out there gentlemen...
We are in bold text now, this is next level serious now.
Most think bold text is just fun and games, but it's often a gateway to ALL CAPS, which for some can eventually lead to the dreaded !!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Silver lining is this game predates the exponentially stronger clown emoji, which has ended many online relationships far too soon. Be safe out there gentlemen...Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
It's a bit funny. 14 of TSW's 28 points come from these two third down plays, which don't break that way very often. Without these two plays TSW's offense is 14 points and 260 yards instead of 28 points and 360 yards. Besides me having a very long track record of moral character, and having no incentive to want TSW to win that game over Hawks anyhow, it's beyond me how the accusation is cheating or collusion makes sense on any level at all, besides Brewnoe and friends being sore losers.
Two of TSW's offensive TD's
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=847875
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848820
Also to add this Hawks offensive play that was knocked loose on the goalline was the difference between 3 points and 7 points:
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848929
As someone who has watched and crucified people for game throwing / collusion / cheating, this is not what it looks like. Any number of plays would have changed the end score to a 3 point game in either direction.
After watching those plays it a wonder TSW didn't win 255-0.
How do you cheat on a great defensive play?
If you can't cover those O plays YOUR D is the problem.
It's a bit funny. 14 of TSW's 28 points come from these two third down plays, which don't break that way very often. Without these two plays TSW's offense is 14 points and 260 yards instead of 28 points and 360 yards. Besides me having a very long track record of moral character, and having no incentive to want TSW to win that game over Hawks anyhow, it's beyond me how the accusation is cheating or collusion makes sense on any level at all, besides Brewnoe and friends being sore losers.
Two of TSW's offensive TD's
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=847875
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848820
Also to add this Hawks offensive play that was knocked loose on the goalline was the difference between 3 points and 7 points:
https://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=92620&pbp_id=848929
As someone who has watched and crucified people for game throwing / collusion / cheating, this is not what it looks like. Any number of plays would have changed the end score to a 3 point game in either direction.
After watching those plays it a wonder TSW didn't win 255-0.
How do you cheat on a great defensive play?
If you can't cover those O plays YOUR D is the problem.
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Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
just report this thread as spam and make it go away
I wish somebody would
just report this thread as spam and make it go away
I wish somebody would
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Originally posted by madmal
After watching those plays it a wonder TSW didn't win 255-0.
How do you cheat on a great defensive play?
If you can't cover those O plays YOUR D is the problem.
I never called out TSW, Seattle or anyone else. I've been respectful to everyone involved. As far as trolling, and trying to get more of a fight going, I'm not biting on the 'we should've beaten your D 255-0' nonsense.
Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
just report this thread as spam and make it go away
^^ This.
After watching those plays it a wonder TSW didn't win 255-0.
How do you cheat on a great defensive play?
If you can't cover those O plays YOUR D is the problem.
I never called out TSW, Seattle or anyone else. I've been respectful to everyone involved. As far as trolling, and trying to get more of a fight going, I'm not biting on the 'we should've beaten your D 255-0' nonsense.
Originally posted by Sugar Kapaa
just report this thread as spam and make it go away
^^ This.
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