Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
He ran on securing our borders and putting America first, and that's what he's doing.

I will meet you halfway on that. In the end, that is exactly what he's done.

I'll just ask, though, at what cost? A lot of what he secured (from Canada at least) was already offered by us, back in December.

In the meantime, he's alienated a close friend and ally (a lot of Canadians are already boycotting American goods - you don't threaten us with annexation and expect us not to react). He's also demonstrated that America's word is not to be trusted. He was, after all, about to renege on his own trade agreement that he himself proclaimed to be "the greatest trade deal in history", just 5 years ago.

This stuff matters, Larry.

Originally posted by Ravenwood
I will meet you halfway on that. In the end, that is exactly what he's done.

I'-n the meantime, he's alienated a close friend and ally (a lot of Canadians are already boycotting American goods - you don't threaten us with annexation and expect us not to react). He's also demonstrated that America's word is not to be trusted. He was, after all, about to renege on his own trade agreement that he himself proclaimed to be "the greatest trade deal in history", just 5 years ago.

This stuff matters, Larry.



Every game needs a "strong horse". In geo-politics, if its not the US (and it certainly can't be the UK--they're practically captured at this point), then it'll be China or Russia. Trump is reminding everyone involved that the US is the "strong horse" player. Given the historical alternatives, is there a better choice?

And believe me, none of us really care what Canada thinks. The Canadian military was amazing in both world wars, but Canada sold them out once they started down the path to socialized medicine. No country can have a thriving economy, a great and well-equipped military, and socialized medicine at the same time--there's not enough money to go around. And what Canada did during Covid is unforgivable. Canada brutally oppressed its people, in part because Canadians had mostly given up their arms.

Sorry, zero concerns about Canada. Canada *IS* a state of the US--they don't have enough of a military to keep the US Coast Guard from invading Canada, and we barely staff them. IF Canada would like to become a sovereign nation again, it would need to begin acting like one. That calls for courage, and budgeting, and the budgeting can't be diverted into things like printing ballots with enough pronouns on it. Grow up Canada, you were once a great nation.

Lol, I really don't give a shit what you think, Larry. You're just a troll on a 20-year old site, who thinks he knows everything but clearly knows nothing, who spends a lot of time trying to create online arguments because he's rather lonely and has nothing better to do.

Originally posted by Ravenwood
Lol, I really don't give a shit what you think, Larry. You're just a troll on a 20-year old site, who thinks he knows everything but clearly knows nothing, who spends a lot of time trying to create online arguments because he's rather lonely and has nothing better to do.





Does that constitute "rebuttal"?

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Canada *IS* a state of the US--they don't have enough of a military to keep the US Coast Guard from invading Canada, and we barely staff them. IF Canada would like to become a sovereign nation again, it would need to begin acting like one. That calls for courage, and budgeting, and the budgeting can't be diverted into things like printing ballots with enough pronouns on it. Grow up Canada, you were once a great nation.

Just wanted to make sure this part wasn't missed. Canada isn't even sovereign at this point. Its people sleep comfortably in bed at night because they understand that an attack on them would be considered by the United States as a declaration of war by the attacking party. It wasn't always that way. Canada was once a great nation. It allowed laziness and socialism (but I repeat myself) to render it a non-entity.

Canada is already the 51st state of the US. President Trump is the only one with the sense of humor to point it out.

Originally posted by Ravenwood
Thank you, PLAYMAKERS, for demonstrating ewinter's point more clearly and efficiently than most could have done. You really have no idea how tariffs work.

Tariffs are paid by the importer. In this case: US companies importing goods into the US, who will pass the increased price (ie. tariff) on to their customers: US consumers. So yes, money will flow into the US treasury, but it will be coming from Americans, not Canada. Canada pays a price of lost sales, assuming US importers can find cheaper alternatives. In the case of oil, that's not possible.

So these tariffs will increase the cost of everything, from the gas you buy at the pump, to whatever you buy in the stores - assuming it came by a truck with an internal combustion engine that runs on gas (ie. pretty much everything). So, while your president campaigned on lowering prices, he's actually doing the opposite.



are you that clueless? Tariff = money for USA, become a state and pay USA taxes. he doesn't give a crap. Deny both and guess what we will do it ourselves and create your irrelevant jobs. Youre fucked no matter what moron.

^ Still doesn't get it.

It's not up to me to explain to you how tariffs work, and how Americans would be the ones who end up paying into the US Treasury. You can read about it when you have time, if you ever choose to educate yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff

Originally posted by Ravenwood
^ Still doesn't get it.

It's not up to me to explain to you how tariffs work, and how Americans would be the ones who end up paying into the US Treasury. You can read about it when you have time, if you ever choose to educate yourself:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariff

Canada is working for the border now... for free moron. thanks Tariffs really costing me money,

Playmakers, you really are an idiot, aren't you?

No one ever entered the US from Canada without first being screened by US border security. We don't police your border, you do. What we agreed to do was increase border patrols on our side - something we agreed to do weeks ago. We also agreed to add the cartels to our terrorist list; something we should have done years ago, in any case.

Now, I'll try to make this simple for you so you can understand. Trump didn't back down because he was worried about upsetting Canadians (he's not). He backed down because he was afraid of pissing off Americans, who overnight would have been looking at 35 cents more a gallon at the pumps, had he gone ahead with his tariffs. The point is, it would not have been Canada paying that extra 35 cents a gallon. It would have been Americans filling up their gas tanks.

Seriously, try to keep up.

Originally posted by Ravenwood
Playmakers, you really are an idiot, aren't you?

No one ever entered the US from Canada without first being screened by US border security. We don't police your border, you do. What we agreed to do was increase border patrols on our side - something we agreed to do weeks ago. We also agreed to add the cartels to our terrorist list; something we should have done years ago, in any case.

Now, I'll try to make this simple for you so you can understand. Trump didn't back down because he was worried about upsetting Canadians (he's not). He backed down because he was afraid of pissing off Americans, who overnight would have been looking at 35 cents more a gallon at the pumps, had he gone ahead with his tariffs. The point is, it would not have been Canada paying that extra 35 cents a gallon. It would have been Americans filling up their gas tanks.

Seriously, try to keep up.

try to keep up bro, you keep saying tariffs will cost me more yet you are paying the tab.

Originally posted by Ravenwood


I speak for a lot of Canadians when I say we are determined to fight back. This is completely needless, but you cannot expect us to roll over.

why are you guarding our border then for nothing in return.

Originally posted by Ravenwood
Playmakers, you really are an idiot, aren't you?

Trump didn't back down because he was worried about upsetting Canadians (he's not). He backed down because he was afraid of pissing off Americans.


The fact you think Trump "backed down" is lol. This is called politics, and he got exactly what he wanted. I know exactly zero people here in the US that are/were genuinely afraid of this "tariff war", it just made for the latest round of media coverage / TikTok ragebait for those that are going to hate anything Trump does, no matter what it is. He reminded Canada and Mexico of their reliance on the US, not the US on them. He announced the free ride is over, Canada and Mexico can grow up now and choose to contribute in a fair manner to the prosperity and security of all 3 nations, you know, like a true "partnership", or they can go try and figure it out on their own on a level playing field. No more living in their parents basement getting free rent and benefits.

I love Canada/Canadians, I travel there virtually every year for work and/or play. I live in Phoenix, where the number of Canadians who either live here full time or are "snowbirds" with homes here in the winter are astronomical. Canadians should have pride in their country, and in themselves. Enough pride to grow up and become more self-sufficient and impactful/powerful on the world stage.

Or...consider joining up with the US and allow both countries to prosper and reap benefits. It's an opportunity/possibility Canadians should at least be having an honest discussion on and evaluation of. The US isn't going to sweat it if pride overrides logic, we do that ourselves quite a bit. But imagine the number of other countries in the world who would jump at the opportunity. Not their governments of course, because those in power want to keep power, but their citizens, who would prosper as a US state/territory. Not saying Canada has a bad form of government, but it sure as hell isn't a financially viable one at this time.

I don't pretend to know the full impacts of any of these things, but there are many positives to reevaluating things over time vs. continuing on with the status quo, especially if it isn't working well. Interesting times regardless.

Now we are going to develop the Gaza Strip. Oh hell ya. Cant wait. Great investment. I see no problems.

Originally posted by Ravenwood
Playmakers, you really are an idiot, aren't you?

No one ever entered the US from Canada without first being screened by US border security. .

Not true. For any border to be the most secure, both sides of it have to care about it being secure. Canada was lazy in their handling of it. They won't be as much so going forward--Trump made sure of that.

Originally posted by Daedalus
The fact you think Trump "backed down" is lol. This is called politics, and he got exactly what he wanted. I know exactly zero people here in the US that are/were genuinely afraid of this "tariff war", it just made for the latest round of media coverage / TikTok ragebait for those that are going to hate anything Trump does, no matter what it is. He reminded Canada and Mexico of their reliance on the US, not the US on them. He announced the free ride is over, Canada and Mexico can grow up now and choose to contribute in a fair manner to the prosperity and security of all 3 nations, you know, like a true "partnership", or they can go try and figure it out on their own on a level playing field. No more living in their parents basement getting free rent and benefits.

I love Canada/Canadians, I travel there virtually every year for work and/or play. I live in Phoenix, where the number of Canadians who either live here full time or are "snowbirds" with homes here in the winter are astronomical. Canadians should have pride in their country, and in themselves. Enough pride to grow up and become more self-sufficient and impactful/powerful on the world stage.

Or...consider joining up with the US and allow both countries to prosper and reap benefits. It's an opportunity/possibility Canadians should at least be having an honest discussion on and evaluation of. The US isn't going to sweat it if pride overrides logic, we do that ourselves quite a bit. But imagine the number of other countries in the world who would jump at the opportunity. Not their governments of course, because those in power want to keep power, but their citizens, who would prosper as a US state/territory. Not saying Canada has a bad form of government, but it sure as hell isn't a financially viable one at this time.

I don't pretend to know the full impacts of any of these things, but there are many positives to reevaluating things over time vs. continuing on with the status quo, especially if it isn't working well. Interesting times regardless.

That's extremely well put.