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Sigh, I just realized what I was saying, what was being said.... discount everything I have said, I haven't been sleeping well.

I do take 1 SP for BTs, but it is the only one.
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Edited by toobad4u_00 on Jun 3, 2015 06:14:43
 
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Originally posted by drewd21
Did they close the loop hole where if you create a dot just as roll over starts on d40 you got 2 extra training points?


you could still do it a few seasons ago.
 
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Nice to see other trainings out there. I still prefer to be at 49 and close to rolling over on my most important attribute as it also gets me to the next cap quicker and caps after that. In the beginning when players are leveling so quickly, using BT's for SP's will save you SP's down the road. Hit the caps hard and as quickly as possible at the start.
 
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Son of a bleep.. I need more sleep.

Sigh, I just realized what I was saying, what was being said.... discount everything I have said, I haven't been sleeping well.

I do take 1 SP for BTs, but it is the only one.
 
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Originally posted by Bane
Originally posted by Pena_FIN

Dots that intend to boost from lvl1 to lvl4 on day48, can't reach the 49-cap on lvl1 without converting BT for SP. It simply can't be done.

Theo says he's done it. If that were true, he'd had to have at least two extra training point, compared to the usual 24 TP lvl1's get.


Yes it can be done
We discussed it earlier in this thread, and drew posted links even
Then I duplicated it and discussed

Keep up bro


OK, I see that now. I was wrong, it is possible after all.

But it isn't optimal. I've tried it with the VPB, and the dots that can reach the cap on day 48 will suffer in ALG's, compared to the "one below max (or above min)" builds, because they can't 61-cap and 68-cap under the cap decimal points.
 
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Originally posted by Pena_FIN


But it isn't optimal. I've tried it with the VPB, and the dots that can reach the cap on day 48 will suffer in ALG's, compared to the "one below max (or above min)" builds, because they can't 61-cap and 68-cap under the cap decimal points.


My thoughts exactly
 
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Originally posted by Pena_FIN
OK, I see that now. I was wrong, it is possible after all.

But it isn't optimal. I've tried it with the VPB, and the dots that can reach the cap on day 48 will suffer in ALG's, compared to the "one below max (or above min)" builds, because they can't 61-cap and 68-cap under the cap decimal points.


So the trade for 1 SP is less efficient?
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
Originally posted by Pena_FIN

OK, I see that now. I was wrong, it is possible after all.

But it isn't optimal. I've tried it with the VPB, and the dots that can reach the cap on day 48 will suffer in ALG's, compared to the "one below max (or above min)" builds, because they can't 61-cap and 68-cap under the cap decimal points.


So the trade for 1 SP is less efficient?


I've been doing multiple VPB builds side by side, and I honestly don't know which way is better. I'm going to stop posting about it now, before I put my foot in my mouth again. Let's just say that it's definitely worth running both scenarios before commiting to a build plan.
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
So the trade for 1 SP is less efficient?


No, see my post above yours and what I quoted. It's about the next 2 caps after the first just as much as it's about the first

How was that for a confusing post?
 
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Originally posted by Bane
No, see my post above yours and what I quoted. It's about the next 2 caps after the first just as much as it's about the first

How was that for a confusing post?


he said the one below max is more beneficial. so the +2 + BT trade is less optimal? man i dont even care anymore. already built my rookies and did what i had to do.

 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
he said the one below max is more beneficial. so the +2 + BT trade is less optimal? man i dont even care anymore. already built my rookies and did what i had to do.



1 pound under max or 1 inch under max is optimal because of decimal at 2/3rd cap

+2 is not optimal ...but it's still good.
 
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Originally posted by toobad4u_00
Sigh, I just realized what I was saying, what was being said.... discount everything I have said, I haven't been sleeping well.

I do take 1 SP for BTs, but it is the only one.


If it helps you hit cap, absolutely. Yes, Very yes.

Originally posted by Pena_FIN
Dots that intend to boost from lvl1 to lvl4 on day48, can't reach the 49-cap on lvl1 without converting BT for SP. It simply can't be done.

Theo says he's done it. If that were true, he'd had to have at least two extra training point, compared to the usual 24 TP lvl1's get.

ETA: I was wrong, it actually can be done. My apologies to Theo; Sorry bro.


S'ok man. Back when I was deep into the gung-ho of this game, I had stacks of notebooks and tried about everything I could think of. I have no idea where those notebooks are anymore and have been doin the same stuff the same way for so long I've kinda forgotten why. I mean... I kinda know why... I just can't produce the notes/stats/stuff that shows how I know what I know.
 
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Nowadays it depends on team design, gameplan and league. Caps and high EL are fine but depends on mission. A skrait dot high EL should follow cap rules, BT rules, SA rules, bort rules, your rules, my rules, erybady rules...well notebooks or not, skrips or not, if that dot can't do what it is needed to do then bort gotcha money and you got no fake gold
 
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Originally posted by skibodragula
Nowadays it depends on team design, gameplan and league. Caps and high EL are fine but depends on mission. A skrait dot high EL should follow cap rules, BT rules, SA rules, bort rules, your rules, my rules, erybady rules...well notebooks or not, skrips or not, if that dot can't do what it is needed to do then bort gotcha money and you got no fake gold


Tru dat, greenie.
 
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For me, it doesn't matter what is optimal at the beginning because chances are I will screw something up at some point during a build anyway. However, long term optimal training and SP usage will always get you a good build at the end.
 
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