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I think the next best team has like 7 human dots. To me that should be around 100% better if I have twice that.

The reason I think the other teams CPU dots are boosted rather than mine penalized is when comparing to my human dots. My human dots could be penalized as well then I would buy that, My WRs for example have way more speed than the CPUs on human owned teams, but the CPU owned team's CPU cover gets keep up or are even faster than my human dots. If it were my CPUs being penalized that wouldn't effect my human owned dots what so ever. My WRs would still be open at the same point.

I may have 40 horrable dots but that is less than the rest. Instead of me referring to my roster being better than theirs I will just refer to it as not as bad as the others if that is better. Either way it's the same meaning.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I think the next best team has like 7 human dots. To me that should be around 100% better if I have twice that.

The math is correct... 14 is 100% higher than 7. However, 100% of a tiny number is still usually a tiny number.

Your team is only 26% human and the other team is only 13% human. That's not actually that big of a gap -- only 13 percentage points -- and both percentages are bloody awful.

Think of it this way... if a team with 55 human dots (100% human) played a team with 48 human dots (87% human), that would also be a gap of 13 percentage points, and I've seen teams with 48 humans beat teams with 55 humans. So, it's not that big of a gap.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
The reason I think the other teams CPU dots are boosted rather than mine penalized is...

You can stop right there. You're incorrect. Bort, Catch22, and other Admins have explained the rules for when and how CPU dots are penalized on human-owned teams on multiple occasions. If that's not actually how it works, then that means the entire GLB userbase and staff have had it entirely wrong for several years without noticing -- possible when it comes to the staff I suppose, given some of the boners they've pulled before, but stuff like that usually doesn't last long without the userbase catching it.

You have your answer. Sorry you don't like it, but that doesn't change the fact that it's the answer.

So my only option is to sell the team. Yet another CPU owned team. That is the part that just doesn't make sense. You would think they would encourage human team ownership rather than discourage it.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
So my only option is to sell the team. Yet another CPU owned team. That is the part that just doesn't make sense. You would think they would encourage human team ownership rather than discourage it.

They want well-run human-owned teams.

"Team bought mid-season with a roster of 14 human dots" does not equal "well-run human-owned team."

That said, you're STILL better off keeping the team, actually... having a team and a team forum will make recruiting for next season that much easier for you. Go hit PLFT and look for potential free agents. Give people access to your team forum and position yourself as "recruiting for a great S42." People do that all the time, and it works.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
You aint shit. You come here and try to tell me I suck because I am having trouble with over boosted CPU owned teams. I have the best fucking roster and the best fucking stuff in that conference and it seems backwards and wrong my team is penalized so heavily simply for having a human owner instead of yet another CPU owner. I realize you don't let facts and logic get in the way of your decision making but you can go back to losing to under leveled underground teams now.

You couldn't beat my peewee squad s even back when you thought you were good. I am a better OC than you, I am a better DC than you, I suck at STs but I am probably superior there as well. Reminisce somewhere else and don't troll my player help thread. If you have something somewhat intelligent regarding the topic then by all means speak up otherwise get your casual ass out of my thread. Thanks!

Your conference is entirely CPU teams. Bragging about that is wholly embarassing and your team is terrible. Nobody gives a shit about you or your fake team that you thought could give you an extra trophy to go along with the rest of your joke achievements.

Before I graduated to actual GLB dotball and was still playing peewee I was a dotbuilder, and gave RK many of the building tricks he used to bring Maine Grenadiers a threepeat in PWG back when people still gave a shit about it. Our team and the 10-20 dots I made each season smacked the shit out of the teams you were a part of. Think twice about the dumbass shit you say and who you are saying it to. Then sell your team and let those agents join a squad that is worth a damn.

Maine was really good for one paticular sim. Nice for you to take credit for that. FYI we are undefeated in one of the toughest PWG conferences ever. I don't recall Maine ever smacking the shit out of me. The only memorable game I had with them was a 3-0 thriller where I believe there was one first down by either team the entire second half. I don't consider building dots for someone as really doing anything significant. Learn to coordinate then come at me bro.

cum at me bro

Maine was the best the was by far until RK quit, suggesting we would have sucked because of a sim change is even dumber than some of the other nonsense you have spewed in this thread. Im not taking credit for their success, but rather for my job and participation in that success. I was the dot building side of it, and used my previous 10 seasons of peewee building to help RK round out his understanding there.

My point is don't lash out at people because you are mad that they called you out, because they might make you look like a total moron. It has been 41 seasons, learn to do anything outside of the first season of a dot's life then come at me.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Maine was the best the was by far until RK quit, suggesting we would have sucked because of a sim change is even dumber than some of the other nonsense you have spewed in this thread. Im not taking credit for their success, but rather for my job and participation in that success. I was the dot building side of it, and used my previous 10 seasons of peewee building to help RK round out his understanding there.

My point is don't lash out at people because you are mad that they called you out, because they might make you look like a total moron. It has been 41 seasons, learn to do anything outside of the first season of a dot's life then come at me.

Learn what? To be an owner of casual teams? No thanks. I have played up the ladder but getting trophies in elite leagues is not so easy. I do however have as much to show for it as you.

Maine was just another good PWG team but were a great playoff team for those three seasons. I am more impressed by teams that have won championships in multiple sim eras (SBWL, Gamecocks, Crackertown, '85 Bears). Best by far? Not sure if they would make my top 5. Congratz on the FM trophy though.

You have a grand total of 2 trophies past sophomore/prep, and they are for a regional minor #4 team in S29. Probably in a similar circumstance to the crap you tried to pull this season. Even as someone who has spent a majority of his time in GLB as a dotbuilder, my peewee, regular, and most certainly casual achievements eclipse yours. Really arguing here with you is a big waste of my time, but I have no respect for people like you who try to abuse the system and then complain when it doesnt work out like they want it to.

I have not been as successful as others, but I don't go around making empty threats towards them. Maine dumped on PWG for pretty much the entirety of their time spent there, we did better in the playoffs than the RS because RK had different AIs for the two, obviously. No team had ever done as well before, and no team has done as well since. Really it could almost be called a fourpeat as we were involved with Brigate Nere Italia, although I had very little to do with that team so I dont count it.

Learn to do anything outside of the first season. Do yu even know how to build a player to plateau?

I see absolutely no achievements other than a few casual trophies. Not one. Not even peewee, rookie, prep, nada. GM trophies don't count. You can'r OC, DC, what exactly makes you some expert? Have you ever even used the DPC? What business do you even have in the player help forum if you cant answer any questions? Novice was a help and that is what this forum is for. Not for some lonely guy to troll random users. Agents ask a question and you tell them they suck? Can you back it up? Even DubJ gave some kind of coherent input. If I need casual advice then maybe you're my man.

"Even DubJ gave some kind of coherent input"

Now that is funny!

Guys (and any ladies out there) , the one thing I think everybody's overlooking that Osiris seems to kinda be mad about (but doesn't [or hasn't really] post clearly) is that a HUMAN owned team with more than 10 CPU dots gets penalized for that... while a CPU owned team with HUMAN dots on it does NOT. That is where the imbalance is. Not so much that his team shouldn't lose (not fully staffed) ... or that CPU teams shouldn't ever win (like DubJ, I think CPU dots should be better than they are... or, at the VERY least, CPU TEAMS should RUN better AI's and better [and correctly] organized depth charts) ... but that the playing field is NOT level. I doubt anyone likes losing here... even those of us that don't have a fully staffed team. But to FEEL like you lost simply because of some penalty against you SIMPLY because a human owns the team instead of a CPU, then I agree with Osiris that that isn't fair. I'd be pissed too. Probably wouldn't expose myself as badly... but would still be mad about it.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Guys (and any ladies out there) , the one thing I think everybody's overlooking that Osiris seems to kinda be mad about (but doesn't [or hasn't really] post clearly) is that a HUMAN owned team with more than 10 CPU dots gets penalized for that... while a CPU owned team with HUMAN dots on it does NOT. That is where the imbalance is. Not so much that his team shouldn't lose (not fully staffed) ... or that CPU teams shouldn't ever win (like DubJ, I think CPU dots should be better than they are... or, at the VERY least, CPU TEAMS should RUN better AI's and better [and correctly] organized depth charts) ... but that the playing field is NOT level. I doubt anyone likes losing here... even those of us that don't have a fully staffed team. But to FEEL like you lost simply because of some penalty against you SIMPLY because a human owns the team instead of a CPU, then I agree with Osiris that that isn't fair. I'd be pissed too. Probably wouldn't expose myself as badly... but would still be mad about it.

That is the point!
It is better to buy the team, sign your players and then sell team, than to keep a human owner in place.
Pretty messed up.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Guys (and any ladies out there) , the one thing I think everybody's overlooking that Osiris seems to kinda be mad about (but doesn't [or hasn't really] post clearly) is that a HUMAN owned team with more than 10 CPU dots gets penalized for that... while a CPU owned team with HUMAN dots on it does NOT. That is where the imbalance is. Not so much that his team shouldn't lose (not fully staffed) ... or that CPU teams shouldn't ever win (like DubJ, I think CPU dots should be better than they are... or, at the VERY least, CPU TEAMS should RUN better AI's and better [and correctly] organized depth charts) ... but that the playing field is NOT level. I doubt anyone likes losing here... even those of us that don't have a fully staffed team. But to FEEL like you lost simply because of some penalty against you SIMPLY because a human owns the team instead of a CPU, then I agree with Osiris that that isn't fair. I'd be pissed too. Probably wouldn't expose myself as badly... but would still be mad about it.

Exactly where I was coming from.

Originally posted by RiverRat2
That is the point!
It is better to buy the team, sign your players and then sell team, than to keep a human owner in place.
Pretty messed up.


Exactly what I did. It wasn't fair for me as a human owner to watch the nice agents who signed on to waste their seasons. I comprised the best roster in the conference and they should now be able to have a chance. The team was undefeated and I tried to give some agent's dots on other CPU teams a chance for rings or a trophy. I was blown away just how extreme the penalty was just because a human now owned the team.

I agree with Wizzago and DubJ that CPUs should be better(mostly built like real human dots). They shouldn't be as good as dots humans pay flex for but not totally retarded either. To penalize human owners (who pay for teams) and agents (who pay for dots) is not the way to go.