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I am done. Its like banging your head against a brick wall. Same old Jampy

Done with what?

I didn't ask you for anything... You posted some useless links of a scat FB juking someone? wtf? What relevance does that have here? Please you tell me.

Or just ignore links proving your an idiot who insists 80 VIS is needed when it's been proven not to be. Or make a thread asking a question about something you know shit about and then argue with every answer u get from people who know way more than u because u get answers u don't like. This is why your most disliked shit stain on GLB

TO jampys defense he did ask about head fake firing and all everyone is showing him is dots "movement" He never asked anything about vision corresponding to a dots movement. He wanted to know info about head fakes. Atleast that is what I got out of it all.

Originally posted by Sellars
Or just ignore links proving your an idiot who insists 80 VIS is needed when it's been proven not to be.

Is a 49 vision scat FB proof? Is that HB that doesn't even have a fake AEQ piece proof? no.

Originally posted by Sellars
Or make a thread asking a question about something you know shit about and then argue with every answer u get from people who know way more than u because u get answers u don't like.

Not rly, I only disagree with you all when you say 80 vis doesn't make a good fake HB...

Originally posted by Sellars
This is why your most disliked shit stain on GLB

Not sure why you are so butthurt about this though tbh, and especially in RMTourney thread, you seem really upset, something you need to get off your chest sellars? I didn't know you had so many tears.

Originally posted by coreyls18
TO jampys defense he did ask about head fake firing and all everyone is showing him is dots "movement" He never asked anything about vision corresponding to a dots movement. He wanted to know info about head fakes. Atleast that is what I got out of it all.

And this... I just gave my honest opinion in which I can 100% defend (unfortunately the dots I would defend with i lost track of their links).

Also imo I like speed backs to have vision 3rd capped. Thats just me though.

I think the HB movement is based off what their run slider is set at more than anything and has nothing to do with vision. It clearly says in the Vision description that it helps head fake and juke more effective. What that means to me is whether you have 48 vision or 80 vision it doesnt make head fake or juke fire more or less but it makes the strength of that head fake/juke stronger. Meaning if a defender was juked by a player with 40 vision he may be on the ground for 1 tick, but if juked by a player with 80 vision he may be on the ground for 3 ticks. Thats just an example.

Edit: also to add, i dont care how it works, I will always take vision to 3rd cap. Regardless of any proof from any one whether its the best or worst builder.

No one in here is saying VIS is a bad thing, but it's a waste to take it that high with all the other things u could be putting those SP's into. And for someone who has almost zero experience watching lvl 79 dots u really are not in position to argue what works best and what does not. I'v seen 80 VIS dots play well but they would be even better had they invested into other areas of the build.

Originally posted by coreyls18
Also imo I like speed backs to have vision 3rd capped. Thats just me though.

I'm talking heavy fakers with 10+ in fakes and 4+ OFF...

If the dot doesn't isn't faking that hard, 50 vis is more than enough imo. And if its a pHB 40vis (or whatever the minimum is +ALG) is good.

The best fakers in PLFT that have gotten the most attention ALWAYS have ~80vision. And imo, if you are investing so heavy in fakes why not take vision high? Only makes sense to me.

Originally posted by Sellars
And for someone who has almost zero experience watching lvl 79 dots u really are not in position to argue what works best and what does not.

awful statement to say Sellars

AS am I, my guy will have vision 3rd capped, prob end up around 72ish after ALGs. And have 10+ in head fake and juke and OFF

Originally posted by Shöcks
awful statement to say Sellars

Because it's true and your mad?? LOL, seriously do u want an apology.... If it weren't true u would probably be able to have a relevant opinion on things. You have access to whatever HB plays on Benin and that's it. That in no way makes u understand anything about fully lvled dots.

This back had 74 vision and he was my fav back ive ever had the chance to OC for.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2360886

Originally posted by coreyls18
I think the HB movement is based off what their run slider is set at more than anything and has nothing to do with vision. It clearly says in the Vision description that it helps head fake and juke more effective. What that means to me is whether you have 48 vision or 80 vision it doesnt make head fake or juke fire more or less but it makes the strength of that head fake/juke stronger. Meaning if a defender was juked by a player with 40 vision he may be on the ground for 1 tick, but if juked by a player with 80 vision he may be on the ground for 3 ticks. Thats just an example.

Edit: also to add, i dont care how it works, I will always take vision to 3rd cap. Regardless of any proof from any one whether its the best or worst builder.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2266513&pbp_id=6642117

Go frame by frame and you'll see the MLB get Head Faked and get right back up. My point in all this is Vision doesn't make a difference in all this; your statement about what the Vision description states is so beginner player player corey I would have thought you've learned by now. Look at what the dot is doing, not what people are saying works, not what the description states, but what the dot does.

Vision has no impact on any offensive dot outside of QB. Blockers (OT, G, C, FB, TE) 60ish and same with Receivers (WR, TE, HB, FB) 60ish. HBs don't need more than 40 Vision; they don't really need 40, but you have to have 40 to get Short Yardage Monster.

I'm sure or hope you know that the first 5 yards of outside runs are pathing which cannot be changed no matter what kind of build you have. The HB will run that path no matter what when that play is called. Inside runs have the pathing to the LOS and again the HB will run that path even if he has 300 in Vision.

I get your statement about Jampy's question about Head Fake firing, I only starting making posts here when people started talking about Vision; I'm not seeing any proof that high Vision make Head Fake fire.

Originally posted by Sellars
Because it's true and your mad?? LOL, seriously do u want an apology.... If it weren't true u would probably be able to have a relevant opinion on things. You have access to whatever HB plays on Benin and that's it. That in no way makes u understand anything about fully lvled dots.

lol wtf? I've OCd for enough teams to know that I would rather choose a ~80vis faker than a ~50vis faker.

Case closed.

Instead of getting hurt, either accept or decline my opinion personally. Because I know there are people who agree with me... So I don't really know why you are taking this so personally.