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sehorn31
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But what do you do when the LB's are doing the same thing and they say they are set to "Passive"? Call them Liars and lose Agents help or blame the Sim and encourage Agents the Game is broken? This is why I kept suggesting the Player Tactic Sharing Option.
Edited by sehorn31 on Aug 11, 2013 13:38:34
 
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Dr. E
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2422211&pbp_id=3716600
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2422211&pbp_id=3712389

What is that weak side DE doing?
 
snakes22
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Originally posted by Dr. E
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2422211&pbp_id=3716600
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2422211&pbp_id=3712389

What is that weak side DE doing?


180 vision he can finally see the play just 20 speed cant get him there
 
Sellars
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Originally posted by Dr. E
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2422211&pbp_id=3716600
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2422211&pbp_id=3712389

What is that weak side DE doing?


Doing the same thing every DE does on a screen that gets blocked at the line??? http://www.goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2417620&pbp_id=3834865&flash=1 What the hell do u think the LDE was doing on this play at 100 aggressive rush. He was doing the same thing your replays show and doing the same thing a ton of DE's do on screens when they get blocked.
 
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It's not necessarily even getting blocked. Because of Bort's code a defender can't pass through an offensive player the way an offensive player can pass through a defensive one. So whenever the OL leak out to block for the screen, it sometimes freezes the DL who is supposed to be pass rushing. The DL can also freeze if an eligible receiver comes near them, as I have examples of that from non-screens.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
It's not necessarily even getting blocked. Because of Bort's code a defender can't pass through an offensive player the way an offensive player can pass through a defensive one. So whenever the OL leak out to block for the screen, it sometimes freezes the DL who is supposed to be pass rushing. The DL can also freeze if an eligible receiver comes near them, as I have examples of that from non-screens.


Wether its a block or how guys in pass rush mode freeze when a HB/TE or any kind of blocker runs by him, the point is that DE's clearly are stopping for those reasons and NOT for the reasons someone attempted to say. This happens to be one big reason blitz LBers can struggle, a TE or back passes by starting off his route and the LBer freezes.
 
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Yeah, I thought we already settled that a while ago.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
It's not necessarily even getting blocked. Because of Bort's code a defender can't pass through an offensive player the way an offensive player can pass through a defensive one. So whenever the OL leak out to block for the screen, it sometimes freezes the DL who is supposed to be pass rushing. The DL can also freeze if an eligible receiver comes near them, as I have examples of that from non-screens.


This is what happened Sellars. They get a vision check, if they fail they bite in to the QB, if they pass, they sit there until the code allows them to move after which they get a chance with a vision check for the chase.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
This is what happened Sellars. They get a vision check, if they fail they bite in to the QB, if they pass, they sit there until the code allows them to move after which they get a chance with a vision check for the chase.

No, everyone keeps telling you that isn't what happens at all. This FS is set to blitz. He doesn't pause when he passes his check to recognize the screen. He reacts instantly: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2420691&pbp_id=2696401

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And here's a pause on a non-screen: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2420792&pbp_id=2037399 The pause has nothing to do with any vision check.
Edited by jdbolick on Aug 12, 2013 16:10:53
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
This is what happened Sellars. They get a vision check, if they fail they bite in to the QB, if they pass, they sit there until the code allows them to move after which they get a chance with a vision check for the chase.


You need to learn the difference between freezing and actually passing a vision check. Those replays u showed are NOT tactics related OR passing a vision check, the DE's are getting blocked/froze up from blockers. That is the way the game has been coded for a very long time now.
 
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I always thought he was being shock blocked when that happens
 
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Originally posted by gbororats
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2417541&pbp_id=4491980

The pause is unrelated to the vision check, as it happens whether the DE reacts to the screen or continues to rush the passer.
 
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I had noticed the DE freeze always happens on the side the screen goes to. It's horrible. Makes it like you have 10 defenders on the field. I have plays that send a DE to the flat, but screen gets called and he freezes.

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