Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Dustin.
So based on this here jd, have you ever tried the high speed/low agility with Quick Cut to see the affect it can have at maintaining your speed while running something like a Flag or Post route (or anything with more than the approximate 20 degrees you mentioned?)

I haven't tried that specifically, no.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Bort later said that favored/penalized is calculated after diminishing returns. I'm assuming the most recent information on that from Bort is actually true.

Are you sure about that? I thought Bort said the opposite--that diminishing returns are calculated after favored/penalized.

Edit: Anyone got the link to this Bort quote?

Lol spending AEQ on SAs

Originally posted by TrevJo
Are you sure about that? I thought Bort said the opposite--that diminishing returns are calculated after favored/penalized.
Catch originally said: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4389170&page=2#39603380
But Bort later said: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4784083&page=5#44198592

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Lol spending AEQ on SAs

Depends on the position.

fml fml fml!

thanks

Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Depends on the position.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Lol spending AEQ on SAs

Edit: I guess you are right K/P should use AEQ on SAs

all wr need more blocking. the only time the are usefull is blocking on outside runs where your perfect build elusive back can sprint down the sideline.

cover 2 ftw.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Edit: I guess you are right K/P should use AEQ on SAs


SAs should be used on dots when doing so enhances the on-the-field performance of a dot to a higher degree than mindlessly pumping % pieces would.

Yes, the intention of your obvious statement that you should build a dot in a manner that helps his performance is true. Unfortunately SA AEQ accomplishes the opposite of that. Planning to take SA AEQ for any position except K/P and possibly OL/possession WR is a bad idea and should only be done in desperation.

As illustrated in your post one of the common misconceptions about this is that it does not mean neglecting any SAs themselves. You take the points out of the attributes because the 20-30 SPs you save cannot begin to cover a 15% or extra 7% to one of your dot's vital duties. It is not a matter of whether the SA is necessary so much as cost efficiency for performance.

Every position except the ones I mentioned have enough important % pieces it is silly to take a SA unless you planned your build poorly.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
You take the points out of the attributes because the 20-30 SPs you save cannot begin to cover a 15% or extra 7% to one of your dot's vital duties. It is not a matter of whether the SA is necessary so much as cost efficiency for performance.

Every position except K/P/OL has enough important % pieces it is silly to take a SA unless you planned your build poorly.




Not every archtype has multiple "vital duties". For such archtypes, locking 4 pieces into % pieces doesn't optimize the performance of the dot.

Please give an example of one that I did not list. I could see maybe power back but I will be taking Juke on mine and therefore taking fake %.

Every single defensive dot hands down should be only % EQ.

Originally posted by jdbolick
Depends on if it's favored or not. Penalized - 10, not penalized or favored - 12, favored - 14.

edit:
That obviously includes equipment.

^^^ this ^^^

all the quotes I can find on it ...

Originally posted by mandyross
Bort/Catch quotes on SAs beyond around 12-15 being a bad idea. This question is often asked.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3853045&page=2#34267592
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3853045&page=3#34270564

Edit to add a Bort quote about attributes over 100 working fine:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1693878&page=3#13873405

Bort quote about the favoured / penalised SAs being modified after the diminishing returns above 10 are applied.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4784083&page=5#44198592

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Edit: Older quotes - not really relevant any more:

Catch quote on the favoured / penalised SAs being modified before the diminishing returns above 10 are applied.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4389170&page=2#39603380

People realise this is wrong:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4796923&page=1#44262993

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Yes, the intention of your obvious statement that you should build a dot in a manner that helps his performance is true. Unfortunately SA AEQ accomplishes the opposite of that. Planning to take SA AEQ for any position except K/P and possibly OL/possession WR is a bad idea and should only be done in desperation.
That's not accurate. Any good SA is a reasonable choice for AEQ / CEQ because that's the only way you can take it over 10. That's especially true if the good SA also happens to be favored for that archetype. For instance, any true power back is better off with a piece in Power Through, assuming they already have two in break tackle %.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Every single defensive dot hands down should be only % EQ.
Hard hitter LBs will get more out of a Monster Hit piece than from a second piece of force fumble. You could also make an argument for First Step on pass rusher DEs, although that should probably be from CEQ instead of AEQ since it's first in the tree.