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Originally posted by Timetoshine-Metta
the part that gets me is he is keeping his well declining dot around not caring about the teams that so happen to be competitive at the regional pro level but at the national pro level apparently it matters.

there's always gonna be blowouts unless they hand went through all the teams which wont happen, so i dont see how it matters

Exactly. Those guys in those Regional Pro leagues who cares right? Not like they want to be competitive or anything....

He was fine in a crappy, casual reg pro team living out his last days. He won ST MVP the year before and lead his crappy league in FF and was 4th in TKL. I figured why not bring him back for another run. Last year he was again #1 in FF and was #2 in TKL. Again, I figured, hey, why not. Obviously not knowing that the team was promoted because I'm not the owner and still not sure where to find that sort of thing out.

Originally posted by Icy Warrior
Did you even read the beginning of this post? I am not the owner and have never owned a team before. I just build dots.

P.S...my post wasn't even aimed at your team. West Scranton Invader scum bags went into the season knowing they were gonna be CPU.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=5074336&page=2

It's whatever, honestly. They can leave the system as is and keep having 255-0 games in Pro Leagues. I have never cared about owning a team before and still don't. I just thought this system didn't make sense and I still don't. I'll just go back to making dots and make sure I pick better owners in the future.

Originally posted by bhall43
Wouldn't matter. As long as the owner didn't make a request to move down it is what it is.

Originally posted by Timetoshine-Metta
they had a record to stay so they stayed

Point I was trying to make. Pretty much knew the answer already.

basically the issue is op's declining dot isn't in some shit league anymore whoring stats so he mad

Originally posted by Icy Warrior
There's no good reason for my dot's team

Should have stopped right there.

Originally posted by lardaddy
basically the issue is op's declining dot isn't in some shit league anymore whoring stats so he mad

You don't get it. I'm not mad my dot isn't in Reg Pro. My dot is still going to get nice counting stats this season from being blown out in 255-0 games. He's also going to get pointless ass fame so he might finish top 400 all time D SS's and top 300 all time ST SS's. Yeah, big whoop. I don't care about that.

I ain't mad. If anything, I'm disappointed that this type of thing is allowed and this is partly what's causing Pro leagues to be an absolute joke.

Originally posted by Icy Warrior


I ain't mad. If anything, I'm disappointed that this type of thing is allowed and this is partly what's causing Pro leagues to be an absolute joke.

I agree with this point, which is what i see as the bigger picture for this thread.

GLB should show more cares to make the game more competitive, and subsequently more fun . By not having a more hands on process with the league setup system, you are going to have blowout games because there are always teams that slip in every season that have no business being there .

I like the idea of mandating a minimum EL or a minimum amount of players not to exceed XXX amount of days in decline. You dont have to strip teams who dont comply, you move them to regional pro competitive. There should be tighter parameters for the betterment of everyone.

Originally posted by Moretti
Originally posted by Icy Warrior



I ain't mad. If anything, I'm disappointed that this type of thing is allowed and this is partly what's causing Pro leagues to be an absolute joke.

I agree with this point, which is what i see as the bigger picture for this thread.

GLB should show more cares to make the game more competitive, and subsequently more fun . By not having a more hands on process with the league setup system, you are going to have blowout games because there are always teams that slip in every season that have no business being there .

I like the idea of mandating a minimum EL or a minimum amount of players not to exceed XXX amount of days in decline. You dont have to strip teams who dont comply, you move them to regional pro competitive. There should be tighter parameters for the betterment of everyone.



The problem with this is that there *is* a system. The system encourages folks to be competitive, so when teams gut, they open up slots for other playoff teams. Going by an arbitrary "EL" system means that someone may not promote who, once hitting pro, was going to recruit and make themselves more competitive.

The point of the game is supposed to be being competitive and moving upwards (and moving down when you are not competitive). There were tools for the owner to use to not move up; he chose not to use them. Should we override the owner's wishes now and force them to stay down because some arbitrary measure at the time of promotion made us think they will never field a competitive team?

For anyone saying "You can't go from a non-competitive team to a competitive team, I present the case of CoP, where all the dots season 33 were pretty much leaving plateau. We recruited for season 34, had shit chem all season, came into playoffs on a 7th seed, and made the CCG and WL.

So, if the owner takes no action to resist promotion, we assume the owner wants to promote.

Originally posted by Moretti
I agree with this point, which is what i see as the bigger picture for this thread.

GLB should show more cares to make the game more competitive, and subsequently more fun . By not having a more hands on process with the league setup system, you are going to have blowout games because there are always teams that slip in every season that have no business being there .

I like the idea of mandating a minimum EL or a minimum amount of players not to exceed XXX amount of days in decline. You dont have to strip teams who dont comply, you move them to regional pro competitive. There should be tighter parameters for the betterment of everyone.



Again...so you ruin the experience of those regional pro teams. No big deal. This team has 44 players and they won 10 games last season. It isn't in GLB's interest to look for teams who aren't looking to win. It is in their best interest to believe that every team plans on winning games.

Originally posted by vladykins
The problem with this is that there *is* a system. The system encourages folks to be competitive, so when teams gut, they open up slots for other playoff teams. Going by an arbitrary "EL" system means that someone may not promote who, once hitting pro, was going to recruit and make themselves more competitive.

The point of the game is supposed to be being competitive and moving upwards (and moving down when you are not competitive). There were tools for the owner to use to not move up; he chose not to use them. Should we override the owner's wishes now and force them to stay down because some arbitrary measure at the time of promotion made us think they will never field a competitive team?

For anyone saying "You can't go from a non-competitive team to a competitive team, I present the case of CoP, where all the dots season 33 were pretty much leaving plateau. We recruited for season 34, had shit chem all season, came into playoffs on a 7th seed, and made the CCG and WL.

So, if the owner takes no action to resist promotion, we assume the owner wants to promote.


the system is founded on principals that are not consistent to the makeup of all teams . This is evident with teams full of far declining players who should be well retired. The system works when the anomalies are removed naturally and it falters when there are not enough teams that are playing the game as its actually intended (fielding fully competitive rosters with proper time spent towards coordination)

Additionally I believe we have more then enough evidence to prove that relying on individual owners to do the right thing doesnt always work out. When teams gut from the WL they stick out a season in nat pro with full cpu rosters. How does that make sense within this system?

Additionally your point about non competitive teams becoming competitive from one season to next (and im assuming this is in an increased competition level as well?) would be considered the exception and not the rule. The system needs to apply to a larger general base.

Originally posted by bhall43
Again...so you ruin the experience of those regional pro teams. No big deal. This team has 44 players and they won 10 games last season. It isn't in GLB's interest to look for teams who aren't looking to win. It is in their best interest to believe that every team plans on winning games.

You ruin the experience of the teams that the regional pro team plays.

Do you think its in the best interest of GLB to water down the competition? I think its in their best interest to make it as challenging as possible as that stimulates interest. Isnt that what everyone complains about now a days? It seems like you only game plan for WL now a days (Maybe for a long time?)?

Originally posted by Moretti
You ruin the experience of the teams that the regional pro team plays.

Do you think its in the best interest of GLB to water down the competition? I think its in their best interest to make it as challenging as possible as that stimulates interest. Isnt that what everyone complains about now a days? It seems like you only game plan for WL now a days (Maybe for a long time?)?

So you agree that regardless it ruins the experience for someone?

GLB operates on just one assumption. Everyone plays to win. They aren't weeding out the teams that aren't because they don't have a crystal ball.

Originally posted by bhall43
So you agree that regardless it ruins the experience for someone?

GLB operates on just one assumption. Everyone plays to win. They aren't weeding out the teams that aren't because they don't have a crystal ball.

Im not sure what your comparing. Are we talking about the team that thread was started about? Its a lose lose situation. Team gets destroyed every game as they have no chance to win, and teams that are actually competitive in the league lose out on a real opponent to play against.

Same situation for a WL team that guts and demotes but still sticks around a season in Nat pro going 0-255 every game.

It seems like people would rather create an argument that the slim chances that uncompetitive teams somehow recruit themselves into decent teams in more competitive leagues vs the higher amount of occurrences where uncompetitive teams "are who we thought they were" .

This is just obvious observations. Every team plays to win in some manor, but it can vary greatly. Again, the priority should be to make that manor conform in both team quality and coordination effort. I dont think thats much to ask? It seems like the free for all method loses more users then it gains....jmo