I have Barry on the line, what should I say?
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bamaplaya1
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*click*Originally posted by Deathblade
I have Barry on the line, what should I say?
I have Barry on the line, what should I say?
Originally posted by wherdigo
I beat my cpu team today
that's not all you beat
drumroll
I beat my cpu team today
that's not all you beat
drumroll
jdbolick
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Originally posted by whodey08
I understand they are scaled up and down based on the competition. The better your team the better the CPU dots you play against will be as well which is why you can't "assume" you will win. I will bet you anything they didn't bother to "tag" any of those CPU dots therefore the AI that is normally used was not used against the CPU team.
That undefeated team said they had set tags and used their normal AIs.
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Bottom line is it has been shown over and over and over that if you treat a CPU team as a regular team than you don't lose. If I am just a "junior" and don't understand things than how is it that I have never lost to a CPU team?
Because most people don't. It's a fluke result that only happens if the CPUs get some crazy scaling. I'm personally ok with that happening, but it drives me insane when clueless people like you or Novus insist that it was the losing team's fault. It rarely is, which is why awful human teams beat CPU opponents at an even higher frequency than good ones.
I understand they are scaled up and down based on the competition. The better your team the better the CPU dots you play against will be as well which is why you can't "assume" you will win. I will bet you anything they didn't bother to "tag" any of those CPU dots therefore the AI that is normally used was not used against the CPU team.
That undefeated team said they had set tags and used their normal AIs.
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Bottom line is it has been shown over and over and over that if you treat a CPU team as a regular team than you don't lose. If I am just a "junior" and don't understand things than how is it that I have never lost to a CPU team?
Because most people don't. It's a fluke result that only happens if the CPUs get some crazy scaling. I'm personally ok with that happening, but it drives me insane when clueless people like you or Novus insist that it was the losing team's fault. It rarely is, which is why awful human teams beat CPU opponents at an even higher frequency than good ones.
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Originally posted by jdbolick
And don't speak to me as if you've earned the right to consider yourself an equal. You should thank me simply for deigning to acknowledge your existence.
Newsflash, jdbolick: we are equals. You're better than me at posting witty insults on the Internet. That does not make you inherently superior to me overall.
Originally posted by jdbolick
That undefeated team said they had set tags and used their normal AIs.
You're assuming that their tagging and AIs were any good in the first place. The fact that they were in Competitive and not in Elite suggests otherwise.
As I said before, being in Competitive means one of three things happened to that team the prior season: 1.) they weren't even on the playoff bubble in Elite and demoted down, 2.) they were mediocre in Competitive and neither promoted nor demoted, or 3.) they made the playoffs in Regular as a low seed, lost in the first round and promoted up to Competitive but not up to Elite. The same is true for all of their opponents in Competitive as well, which means they're playing a very weak schedule. And going 16-0 against a weak schedule means nothing; there are quite a few teams who dominate in Competitive leagues and get their asses kicked in Elite leagues.
So, no, being undefeated in Competitive means nothing. I would expect someone like you to have higher standards, jdbolick, but if you really want to be impressed by a team going undefeated against inferior competition, I guess that's your right. But I won't be so easily impressed.
Now, go find me an example of a good team getting beat by a CPU team, or GTFO. If this is such a major problem, you ought to be able to find me one example fairly easily. Go do it.
And don't speak to me as if you've earned the right to consider yourself an equal. You should thank me simply for deigning to acknowledge your existence.
Newsflash, jdbolick: we are equals. You're better than me at posting witty insults on the Internet. That does not make you inherently superior to me overall.
Originally posted by jdbolick
That undefeated team said they had set tags and used their normal AIs.
You're assuming that their tagging and AIs were any good in the first place. The fact that they were in Competitive and not in Elite suggests otherwise.
As I said before, being in Competitive means one of three things happened to that team the prior season: 1.) they weren't even on the playoff bubble in Elite and demoted down, 2.) they were mediocre in Competitive and neither promoted nor demoted, or 3.) they made the playoffs in Regular as a low seed, lost in the first round and promoted up to Competitive but not up to Elite. The same is true for all of their opponents in Competitive as well, which means they're playing a very weak schedule. And going 16-0 against a weak schedule means nothing; there are quite a few teams who dominate in Competitive leagues and get their asses kicked in Elite leagues.
So, no, being undefeated in Competitive means nothing. I would expect someone like you to have higher standards, jdbolick, but if you really want to be impressed by a team going undefeated against inferior competition, I guess that's your right. But I won't be so easily impressed.
Now, go find me an example of a good team getting beat by a CPU team, or GTFO. If this is such a major problem, you ought to be able to find me one example fairly easily. Go do it.
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Originally posted by jdbolick
That undefeated team said they had set tags and used their normal AIs.
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You are wrong. I remember that conversation. It was JTHood's (or something along that name) team. He specifically said he had 0 cares as it was a resting ground for his future WL dots. He said he had not watched a single play all season and had not touched his AI's or tagged for that game.
You are basing your stance on 1 example and it is a horrible example at that.
That undefeated team said they had set tags and used their normal AIs.
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You are wrong. I remember that conversation. It was JTHood's (or something along that name) team. He specifically said he had 0 cares as it was a resting ground for his future WL dots. He said he had not watched a single play all season and had not touched his AI's or tagged for that game.
You are basing your stance on 1 example and it is a horrible example at that.
Edited by whodey08 on Apr 4, 2013 10:12:03
Buzz42day
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I don't know how you lose to a cpu team when the cpu team defense uses the stock plays.
jdbolick
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Originally posted by whodey08
You are wrong. I remember that conversation. It was JTHood's (or something along that name) team. He specifically said he had 0 cares as it was a resting ground for his future WL dots. He said he had not watched a single play all season and had not touched his AI's or tagged for that game. You are basing your stance on 1 example and it is a horrible example at that.
As usual you're wrong, as that was a completely different example. And while we're at it, after all the many times I've had to correct your mistakes, why would you have the nerve to argue with me about anything?
Originally posted by Novus
Newsflash, jdbolick: we are equals. You're better than me at posting witty insults on the Internet. That does not make you inherently superior to me overall.
God, genetics, parents, or whatever else you want to blame achieved that. The accumulated history of your posting and achievements merely proved it.
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You're assuming that their tagging and AIs were any good in the first place. The fact that they were in Competitive and not in Elite suggests otherwise.
Stop embarrassing yourself with this absurd line of reasoning. You only started harping on Elite being a prerequisite after getting numerous examples of "good" teams in Competitive being beaten by CPU teams. It won't happen in elite because there are rarely any CPU teams there, not because the teams are too good to lose. What you still don't understand after multiple explanations is that the reason for CPU victories has everything to do with fluky scaling results and not the quality of the opponent. That's why the same CPU team in question will lose to an awful human team while beating one of the better human teams in that league.
You are wrong. I remember that conversation. It was JTHood's (or something along that name) team. He specifically said he had 0 cares as it was a resting ground for his future WL dots. He said he had not watched a single play all season and had not touched his AI's or tagged for that game. You are basing your stance on 1 example and it is a horrible example at that.
As usual you're wrong, as that was a completely different example. And while we're at it, after all the many times I've had to correct your mistakes, why would you have the nerve to argue with me about anything?
Originally posted by Novus
Newsflash, jdbolick: we are equals. You're better than me at posting witty insults on the Internet. That does not make you inherently superior to me overall.
God, genetics, parents, or whatever else you want to blame achieved that. The accumulated history of your posting and achievements merely proved it.
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You're assuming that their tagging and AIs were any good in the first place. The fact that they were in Competitive and not in Elite suggests otherwise.
Stop embarrassing yourself with this absurd line of reasoning. You only started harping on Elite being a prerequisite after getting numerous examples of "good" teams in Competitive being beaten by CPU teams. It won't happen in elite because there are rarely any CPU teams there, not because the teams are too good to lose. What you still don't understand after multiple explanations is that the reason for CPU victories has everything to do with fluky scaling results and not the quality of the opponent. That's why the same CPU team in question will lose to an awful human team while beating one of the better human teams in that league.
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Originally posted by jdbolick
insist that it was the losing team's fault. It rarely is, which is why awful human teams beat CPU opponents at an even higher frequency than good ones.
insist that it was the losing team's fault. It rarely is, which is why awful human teams beat CPU opponents at an even higher frequency than good ones.
jdbolick
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CPU wins are rare anyway, but they happen more often against human teams with decent records because of the scaling.
dahman32
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Originally posted by jdbolick
That's why the same CPU team in question will lose to an awful human team while beating one of the better human teams in that league.
Remembers the one season 2 CPU teams won silver in semi pro or something like that.
A few agents saw that they were about to at least win a silver and bought them since they were still available
Owner that lost to the CPU (owned) team was 15-1 or maybe even undefeated in the regular season, he later quit the game and hasn't logged on since (well, might have been banned after his flooding rage quit
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But I suppose the argument is, he didn't plan well enough for the CPU and overlooked them thinking it would be an easy win.
That season there were maybe 6-7 CPU teams in that league and it was the only one to make it to the championship game.
After the "new owner" bought it to get their loltrophy, it pretty much killed any chance of the players on the team to keep the streak going... players on the CPU team were miffed as well as they were doing just fine up until someone bought the team....
Oh, and my team beat the CPU team ( I think, it was 2 of them in championship games so not sure which one) for the Championship BTW
Morale of this story... there is no morale! Haaaa
CPU Teams are the Best
That's why the same CPU team in question will lose to an awful human team while beating one of the better human teams in that league.
Remembers the one season 2 CPU teams won silver in semi pro or something like that.
A few agents saw that they were about to at least win a silver and bought them since they were still available
Owner that lost to the CPU (owned) team was 15-1 or maybe even undefeated in the regular season, he later quit the game and hasn't logged on since (well, might have been banned after his flooding rage quit
)But I suppose the argument is, he didn't plan well enough for the CPU and overlooked them thinking it would be an easy win.
That season there were maybe 6-7 CPU teams in that league and it was the only one to make it to the championship game.
After the "new owner" bought it to get their loltrophy, it pretty much killed any chance of the players on the team to keep the streak going... players on the CPU team were miffed as well as they were doing just fine up until someone bought the team....
Oh, and my team beat the CPU team ( I think, it was 2 of them in championship games so not sure which one) for the Championship BTW
Morale of this story... there is no morale! Haaaa
CPU Teams are the Best
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