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Dr. Showtime
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Originally posted by bhall43
i have mixed feelings about defenses using slow starter in this age of ball control. Getting down early in a game is a trap.


It works as long as you aren't allowing a ton of TDs. You can go down 3 or 4 FGs and be fine, just have to make sure the defense is tight in the RZ

Though I wouldn't recommend it on an entire defense
 
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Originally posted by Dr. Showtime
It works as long as you aren't allowing a ton of TDs. You can go down 3 or 4 FGs and be fine, just have to make sure the defense is tight in the RZ

Though I wouldn't recommend it on an entire defense


1 td is huge in this game right now. Especially if it comes via rushing.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
1 td is huge in this game right now. Especially if it comes via rushing.


eh i dunno. i mean i definitely get where you are coming from ... but i've always been a slow-starter type of DC whether i'm using that VA or not.

when i have used the VA, generally the worst it's ever been is 14 points in the 1st. usually it's in the 6-10 range .. which is damn near where i'm at w/o the VA

it's the "not seeing a ton of benefit" in the 4th that calls some things into question for me. as you know, i go back and forth on this every season
 
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ya thats why we haven't won a title together.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
ya thats why we haven't won a title together.


too soon maaan
 
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5% bonus or penalty is not a huge deal. To really swing momentum and get things rolling ur direction it still comes down to play calling. Now if you get slow starter + ot killer clicking together those can be a lethal combination. I've tried a streaky + slow starter + ot killer WR before but just need to many stars to align for it to be effective
 
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Originally posted by snakes22
5% bonus or penalty is not a huge deal. To really swing momentum and get things rolling ur direction it still comes down to play calling. Now if you get slow starter + ot killer clicking together those can be a lethal combination. I've tried a streaky + slow starter + ot killer WR before but just need to many stars to align for it to be effective


5% on things you can control is fine. 5% on everyone on the field or guys out of your control as to when they are on the field is a fucking nightmare.
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
5% on things you can control is fine. 5% on everyone on the field or guys out of your control as to when they are on the field is a fucking nightmare.


exactly. 5% penalty for 1st quarter is something you can deal with. And 5% bonus last 15 or 22 minutes of game is nice but won't necessarily mean ur gonna have a big 4th qrtr every game.

5% team wide penalty from chem or players in decline for the entire game is hard to overcome
 
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