Warrior General Games

Originally posted by whodey08
Which is my question? Why do lower level QB's have better progressions than older QB's? What changes?

Low level QBs are given a boost. As your player ages that boost diminishes until it completely goes away at lvl. 50. So basically when you get to university the boost has wore off enough it doesn't help you remotely to the extent it did previously but the QB's build is nowhere near being finished. The mid levels are pretty much no man's land.

Originally posted by JT_HOOD
i never said my 3rd progression was down field. I'm not complaining because he's not chucking it downfield to the right guy. I want him to see that the bomb is not the best option and then look for the other reads. I just would like to say......35% of the time he might make the other reads.

Downfield if you have the wrs is fine, it's just irritating watching them throw downfield into heavy coverage.............example. Cox vs Funday first progression is in triple coverage in endzone.......qb makes the throw regardless. INT game ovah

The example didn't look like triple coverage at the time of release. There was initially double coverage on the TE target (BTE) and then one of the defenders (MLB) was juked. The QB then pulled the trigger. I think there's more of an issue with that play/progression being called on the opp21. End zone logic took over so the TE wasn't lead deep like he would have been around midfield. There's no way that MLB would have caught up. I'm just saying it's possible the QB seen single coverage at the time of the release which is way the vision check was made to throw it. The SS picked up his zone assignment WR2 before the pass.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2285756&pbp_id=2860574

Maybe you are trying to achieve this?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2285585&pbp_id=3953601

Originally posted by bhall43
if manning is on progression 3...or pretty much any quarterback for that matter...it is a dump pass.

agree with that but saying he never gets there is untrue. and i wouldn't mind if i could get to 3rd read and dump off in this game.

what are your dump pass settings?

i use sometimes. if i use often the QB will skip progressions and just pass it to the HB too much. i wouldn't want to dump pass until the 3rd read at least most the time.

Originally posted by MadMustaff
The example didn't look like triple coverage at the time of release. There was initially double coverage on the TE target (BTE) and then one of the defenders (MLB) was juked. The QB then pulled the trigger. I think there's more of an issue with that play/progression being called on the opp21. End zone logic took over so the TE wasn't lead deep like he would have been around midfield. There's no way that MLB would have caught up. I'm just saying it's possible the QB seen single coverage at the time of the release which is way the vision check was made to throw it. The SS picked up his zone assignment WR2 before the pass.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2285756&pbp_id=2860574

true, i just remembered 3 being there when the ball got there. if he saw single coverage when he released then there is something wrong with what the QB is seeing.

If the qb is thinking like you're saying then why not throw to the TE on this play a few snaps earlier? http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2285756&pbp_id=2860498

He didn't, i assume because he saw the SS and went to read 2 which was the HB.

also can say the play bla bla bla, but it was week 2 and we all know you get a bunch of this http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2285756&pbp_id=2856209 vs EE and SBB, throwing over the top to the BTE wasn't such a bad idea, not as bad as the decision to make the throw

I wonder if this is bc p much /everybody/ is running -100 open man

Originally posted by lardaddy
I wonder if this is bc p much /everybody/ is running -100 open man

they're throwing into double/triple coverage because open man?

Originally posted by JT_HOOD


If the qb is thinking like you're saying then why not throw to the TE on this play a few snaps earlier? http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2285756&pbp_id=2860498

He didn't, i assume because he saw the SS and went to read 2 which was the HB.


Not sure you can compare the two plays, since they are two different routes (same play, different progression). Some routes have the QB hold the ball longer than others.

In tune with what MM said, often when a receiver jukes a defender, the QB will often throw in that direction.. especially if he is the first target.

Also, HB wasn't open on that int-play..actually everybody was well covered at the time of the throw. Still agree with what you're saying about progression, though.

Originally posted by kwankwan
Not sure you can compare the two plays, since they are two different routes (same play, different progression). Some routes have the QB hold the ball longer than others.

In tune with what MM said, often when a receiver jukes a defender, the QB will often throw in that direction.. especially if he is the first target.

Also, HB wasn't open on that int-play..actually everybody was well covered at the time of the throw. Still agree with what you're saying about progression, though.

yeah prob not best example, it just stuck out.

fakes are the easiest way to get another read. A another dot in the progression fakes, then the qb just auto zooms to him and lets it go about 99% of the time.

Originally posted by kwankwan
Not sure you can compare the two plays, since they are two different routes (same play, different progression). Some routes have the QB hold the ball longer than others.

In tune with what MM said, often when a receiver jukes a defender, the QB will often throw in that direction.. especially if he is the first target.

Also, HB wasn't open on that int-play..actually everybody was well covered at the time of the throw. Still agree with what you're saying about progression, though.

throw away........pretty much never happens. that could have been helpful in that widow game as well

Originally posted by Dr. Showtime
they're throwing into double/triple coverage because open man?

throws into double/triple coverage have always been a problem

I'm asking if it's possible them not going past the 1st/2nd read is bc of open man

lol this thread,