Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Novus
Oh, this game?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2220133

The one where you needed a 4th-quarter rally of your own just to beat a team with a record of 1-7?

Wow, congrats. You held a 1-7 team to just 7 points in the 4th quarter. If you're really and truly satisfied with that, well, we can't help you.

Again, go fix your 4th-quarter defense.

So what about the two quarters of scoring I did on them before they scored the 14 points?

Why is it you REFUSE to acknowledge the spending on team promotions and salaries????

Because thats a huge part of my point.

If all that spending is not enough to offset two back to back touchdowns then the system is ridiculous.

And do not say "they scored ten points earlier in the game" that would have offset the promotions already, because my team ALSO scored 29 points in that back and forth that should have offset that scoring.

Which is my point.

Respond to my point and not your opinion of my GLB skills.

Yello, your Suggestion is to "GIVE more points to morale when your team does well".

Implicit in that statement is your assertion that your team was doing well in the 4th quarter of this game:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2220150

-You blew a 19-point lead with 12:01 left in the 4th quarter.
-You gave up 14 unanswered points in 4 minutes in the 4th quarter.
-You gave up 20 unanswered points in 10 minutes in the 4th quarter.

None of that adds up with your assertion that your team was "doing well" in the 4th quarter. A team that is "doing well" does not blow a 19-point lead with 12 minutes left in the game. A team that is "doing well" does not give up 14 unanswered points in 4 minutes. A team that is "doing well" does not give up 20 unanswered points in 10 minutes.

The very PREMISE of your Suggestion is flawed from the word "Go." Your team was NOT doing well. Your morale SHOULD have been dropping during the time when the other team was steadily chipping away at your lead.

And the reason I keep telling you to go fix your 4th quarter defense is because your utter lack of knowledge about the mechanics of the game of dotball is what leads to your continued frustration with the game and your resulting desire to make poorly-thought-out and unliked Suggestions.

Look at how much time you've spent in this thread. Now think about how that time could've been spent instead: scouting your upcoming opponent, looking for weaknesses to attack in their defense, searching for tendencies in their offense that will allow you to predict and stop what they want to do. Or you could be watching game film of your own games, looking for problems in your own gameplans, finding and fixing the places where things broke down for your team. Or you could be in the FAQ forum, asking questions of people who know more about the game than you do and learning from them.

Instead, you're in here, arguing that a team that gives up 14 unanswered points in 4 minutes and is desperately clinging to a 5-point lead should still have 187 Morale.

You really don't understand what the problem is here?

Novus

Reply to my last post. Because none of that was responsive to what I said.

Originally posted by yello1
Novus

Reply to my last post. Because none of that was responsive to what I said.


I'm replying to your original suggestion. Which is based on a flawed, incorrect premise, as is everything else you're saying in this thread.

Your Suggestion is to give more points to morale when a team does well. You then used an example of a team that was NOT doing well.

Find me a team that actually IS doing well and has falling morale anyway. The example you pointed to does not fit that criteria.

instead of just whining with a general complaint, did you actually go through each play to see how your player got to 76? it is not just scores that affect it. I see your team team up big yardage plays all game long. i doubt very much that your player just magically went to 76 for no reason. but heaven forbid that you actually do research or understand the concept b4 running off to suggestions to whine. the fact that you cant even admit that 49 is pure crap for a pro team just shows how little you understand the morale concept.

Here's why you lost this game, yello, and it wasn't because of morale:

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Opponent's ball, 3rd & 3 from their own 38, 9:48 left in the game:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4398950
You call a 3-3-5 and use 2 LBs to try to cover the TE while you waste your 3rd CB on covering the HB. LBs aren't as good at coverage, and it shows, as they let the TE come down with a 23-yard catch down to your 38.

3 plays later, you let their FB break WIDE open over the middle for a 17-yard catch down into your red zone.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399059

2 plays later, you give up a 15-yard catch down to your 2-yard line thanks to your CB2 giving about a 20-yard cushion to his man:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399150

That sets up a TD, and your lead shrinks from 19 points down to 12, 29-17. And it all happens because of key mistakes in your coverage schemes giving up 3 big catches.

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Your ensuing possession begins with this:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399260
SB Big - HB Sweep Left, a play that had not been working particularly well for you today and thus should not have been called here if you were using Auto-Adjust effectively. It gets blown up for a 3-yard loss, putting you off-schedule on down-and-distance and leading to a 3-and-out and a short field for NY-CA.

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NY-CA gets the ball back, and this happens right away:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399435
Horrible coverage. Again, you rely on an LB to cover a TE deep route, this time single-coverage, and he gives up an 18-yard catch down to your 28.

Next play, this happens:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399473
Same problem, with a lone LB once again single-covering the BTE deep. The FS is in a weird zone and can't make up his mind who to help cover, and he ends up helping nobody. And your LB gives up another big catch, this time for 22 yards down to your 6.

That sets up another TD. Your lead has now shrunk to 5, 29-24.

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You get the ball back with 3:09 left. You still have a lead, but it's important to either A.) put together a yardage-chewing drive with effective play-calling that kills the game, or B.) run the ball to keep the clock running and force the trailing team to burn time-outs, even if it means you'll punt the ball back to them. Given that choice, I prefer B, but A is perfectly valid... IF you call the right passing plays and keep the ball moving.

You call a screen and a run to get a first down. Clock is moving, ball is moving, you've eaten up 1:09 of clock. Good so far.

Then you do this on 1st & 10:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399614
Weak I - HB Sweep Weak, another play that hadn't been working for you and shouldn't have been called in that key situation if you were using Auto-Adjust effectively. You only gain 2, and now it's 2nd & long, and you're behind on down-and-distance again.

NY-CA calls timeout. Clock stops at 1:56, NY-CA has 2 timeouts left.

At this point, the correct direction is to call inside runs. Keep the clock running, force NY-CA to burn their last 2 timeouts, and punt it back to them with just under 2:00 left and no timeouts to help them. Instead, you call 2 pass plays, both of which fall incomplete, stopping the clock and enabling NY-CA to keep those 2 timeouts as you punt it back to them with just under 2:00 left. It's the EXACT SAME OUTCOME, except they have 2 more timeouts than they would've had, which gives them more play-calling flexibility.

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NY-CA's first play is a 16-yard catch...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=2220150&mode=pbp
...but I can't dog you too much for it. You actually have a CB covering the TE this time, and sometimes dots on offense just make plays. Might've helped if you'd gone with a 3-man front instead of a 4-man front though, so you'd have an extra dot back in coverage to help double-cover that TE.

The next play, however...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399746
Really? In this situation, you respond to SB Big in an obvious passing situation with a 4-4 defense with only one safety? WR2 streaks deep, CB2 can't keep up and has NO help at all, and he gets beat for a 23-yard catch down to your 35. TERRIBLE defensive play-calling.

Final play is even worse...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2220150&pbp_id=4399791
They come out in Weak I in an obvious passing situation once again, and you respond with a 4-3 defense with no deep safety-help on the weakside. CB1 gets beaten BADLY by his man and there's nobody there to help him... your FS is playing up to cover the FB in the flat, while your ROLB is... well, I have no frakking clue what your ROLB is doing, but he's not covering anybody, that's for sure. WR1 makes the easy catch and takes it in from the 35. Touchdown.

You're now trailing by 1, 30-29.

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You still have a chance. 3 timeouts remaining, 1:12 left, ball at your own 23. Teams have won in that scenario before, and all you need is a FG. But you squander your opportunity with a series of questionable running plays that force you to burn timeouts. You gain 13 total yards and turn the ball over on downs, and the game is over.

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A parade of terrible coverage schemes and bad defensive choices, paired with poor offensive play-calling... and you think the reason you lost this game is MORALE?

I'm done.

you know that logic never works on yello. none of the above matters. IT MUST BE A MORALE SPIRAL.

I just looked at some games of a team that has a knack for giving up 4th qtr leads, and with more than 49 in confidence, they mostly ended the game between the low 70s and low 80s. so 76 sounds just about right. and i dont even think 76 is considered a spiral. i've seen players go from the 90s to 50s in a few series. now thats a spiral.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
you know that logic never works on yello. none of the above matters. IT MUST BE A MORALE SPIRAL.

Eh, he does learn... just slowly. He's moved his posting from GLB Main over to FAQ recently, where it belongs, and he's also started doing his own experiments to answer his own questions.

Took him about a year to do both, of course... ...but he can change IF enough people hit him hard enough upside his head and convince him he needs to do so.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
what works best, frying pan, baseball bat, tennis racket, or sledge hammer?

Yes. All of them.

We're not changing anything about the morale system.