Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Apallyon
This is a SUGGESTION forum.. hence people try to help, or suggest other methods..

This is a forum to suggest things that will improve this game.

What this forum is not:

- A pie in the sky, let's make up a whole bunch of shit and see what sticks lollypop land

- A mechanism to make bad owners good

- An avenue to bring down good dot builders to the level of terrible dot builders

- A personal blog (this is not an area to post every single thought that pops into your head in the form of a new thread)

Forgot to add the most important one:

- A forum where everything that is suggested has to be accepted by everyone and there can be absolutely no detractors and it is commanded that everyone work together to make every single suggestion the best suggestion it can be.

Hey... heres a thought AAD

You ever been part of a "brain storming meeting?" Its done in the corporate world a lot... there are no dumb ideas, people just blurt out whatever is on their mind....

Later others either take something from it to create an idea, or perhaps discover it may not be viable...

But HOW DO YOU GET NEW "OUT OF THE BOX" IDEAS if you DONT explore them?

The point of a suggestions blog is to put anything and everything out there.. in the hopes that maybe something interesting progresses for it.

At least he is contributing SOMETHING.. and why not? Why do your feelings need to get so hurt by his use of the forum?

you state what the forum is for, yet I dont see MOD after your name... I dont see MODs shutting down any threads started by this guy... I dont see him sitting here calling everybody else out..... So go do something useful Dude...

OH and btw...

I somewhat agree with this idea of his... though I personally would think that the linebacker could get a "read" type bar that would in some way play to the "agressiveness" sliding bar... as in he could read the RB (blocking or breaking into the flat) and make a decision...

IF you set the bar at too much then there would be a "pass" penalty... (LB would be too slow).. etc...

I dont know.. could work...

Originally posted by Apallyon
You ever been part of a "brain storming meeting?" Its done in the corporate world a lot... there are no dumb ideas, people just blurt out whatever is on their mind....

Except that isn't how Suggestions works or is intended to work. You present your suggestion and it either garners support or critiques (sometimes both from the same users). If the suggestion gains enough support then it gets to the spit balling stage.

It's funny how you are telling people what they should think and post yet accuse me of being a backseat mod.

Dude.. do you need me to type S-L-O-W-E-R for you?

I'm not telling you what to post in terms of your critique or support.. What I'm saying is dont attack the person.. which you and Hatch and a few others do.... its an IDEA....

Here let me play Tony Robbins on this one .

Try this: When anybody presents you with an idea in the next month.. try thinking of 1 way it could work and be GOOD - BEFORE you critique it for being bad....

Not only will you find out new things, you may find people like you a lot better in real life too... Just try it out.

And what you said about how suggestions "work" ... thats EXACTLY how any suggestions are supposed to work.. someone pitches some crazy out there idea (or sometimes a bleeding obvious one) and people CONSIDER how that would work or affect their experience.... doesnt that just make sense?

Originally posted by Apallyon
What I'm saying is dont attack the person..

I'm still waiting for you to show where I personally attacked yello in the other thread. It's funny that you have insulted me while running around screaming that people need to be nicer to one another. Had you not attacked me in the other thread I wouldn't have even posted in this one.

You know when you see little kids arguing about who's turn it is on the swings? Yeah, this thread reminds me of that.

I'm going to ask nicely that you all stop hurling lame insults about and either contribute to the thread, or leave it alone.

doobas™

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Originally posted by Apallyon
I dont see MODs shutting down any threads started by this guy... I dont see him sitting here calling everybody else out.....

Umm.. have you heard of the term "Luddite"? Guess who started that one... as for the locked threads... there have been quite a few.

Originally posted by All American Dude
Originally posted by Apallyon

This is a SUGGESTION forum.. hence people try to help, or suggest other methods..

This is a forum to suggest things that will improve this game.

What this forum is not:

- A pie in the sky, let's make up a whole bunch of shit and see what sticks lollypop land

- A mechanism to make bad owners good

- An avenue to bring down good dot builders to the level of terrible dot builders

- A personal blog (this is not an area to post every single thought that pops into your head in the form of a new thread)

Forgot to add the most important one:

- A forum where everything that is suggested has to be accepted by everyone and there can be absolutely no detractors and it is commanded that everyone work together to make every single suggestion the best suggestion it can be.










this, since this already happens, this thread forum is a huge clusterfuck. who knows how many good ideas actually end up getting bumped down

Originally posted by Apallyon
God Almighty Hatch...

No wonder this game cant attract Noobs... poor buggers read the "suggestion" forum and all the flaming for what is a simple suggestion and think "Stuff this"..

Dude.. get off the Flamer Kings E Penis Express......

This is a SUGGESTION forum.. hence people try to help, or suggest other methods........


And if you want to argue.. for gods sakes man.. go get married... I'll give you my ex-wifes number.. she'll keep you busy for years...////


.....The point of a suggestions blog is to put anything and everything out there.. in the hopes that maybe something interesting progresses for it.

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LOL Flamer Kings Express, nice.

Yes, exactly. How people get bent about suggestions in a suggestion forum is beyond comprehension.

LOLOL ex wife. If she gets tired he can just call my wife too. If he thinks IM arugmentative, he ain't seen nothing yet.

And yes. exactly.

Originally posted by All American Dude
Originally posted by Apallyon

This is a SUGGESTION forum.. hence people try to help, or suggest other methods..

This is a forum to suggest things that will improve this game.

What this forum is not:

- A pie in the sky, let's make up a whole bunch of shit and see what sticks lollypop land

- A mechanism to make bad owners good

- An avenue to bring down good dot builders to the level of terrible dot builders

- A personal blog (this is not an area to post every single thought that pops into your head in the form of a new thread)

Forgot to add the most important one:

- A forum where everything that is suggested has to be accepted by everyone and there can be absolutely no detractors and it is commanded that everyone work together to make every single suggestion the best suggestion it can be.


1) You and hatch are not the ones to say what will or won't improve the game. Threads of mine that have been flamed to toast were implemented. You are free to opine with the best of them of course. But to regally tell me to GTFO because my idea is dissaproved of is silly. Not that YOU do that, but its been bandied about by others.

2) Actually it positively is for pie in the sky ideas as well as minute polishes of existing UI. Its for ALL suggestions that they have not previously poo poo'd (and frankly the whole NGTH thing is silly imo as well, if something is suggested a million times they may want to reconsider the NGTH thing).

3) Suggestions will not bring down good dot builders. So far as I know suggestions do not alter code. And if someone has to overcome a broken user interface, counter intuitive build results and a buggy game to build a good dot then the system needs to be fixed even if the good dot builders feel put out, otherwise the frustrated people who cant spend a year researching the arcane corners of questions and answers four years past are going to log out and not come back, which will kill the good dot builders game and their good dots as well as the bad.

4) Personal blogs are where you talk about how gooey your oatmeal was this morning. This is a suggestion forum and its for anyones suggestions whether you like them or not. Beyond serious spamming (and a dozen ideas in two months is not that) there is no need to curtail those suggestions - whether you like them or not.

5) If thats directed at me, I never requested it. I like a good discussion. But that doesn't mean I am going to bend over and smilingly take it up the six from every troll that crawls out from under his bridge. If someone is wrong or rude, I am going to say so.

Originally posted by Apallyon
OH and btw...

I somewhat agree with this idea of his... though I personally would think that the linebacker could get a "read" type bar that would in some way play to the "agressiveness" sliding bar... as in he could read the RB (blocking or breaking into the flat) and make a decision...

IF you set the bar at too much then there would be a "pass" penalty... (LB would be too slow).. etc...

I dont know.. could work...

Sounds good to me. I'll edit that into the OP in case anyone is still reading it.

Originally posted by All American Dude
Originally posted by Apallyon

You ever been part of a "brain storming meeting?" Its done in the corporate world a lot... there are no dumb ideas, people just blurt out whatever is on their mind....

Except that isn't how Suggestions works or is intended to work. You present your suggestion and it either garners support or critiques (sometimes both from the same users). If the suggestion gains enough support then it gets to the spit balling stage.

It's funny how you are telling people what they should think and post yet accuse me of being a backseat mod.

Not really AAD, at the end of the day Bort and Company are making the shots here based upon THEIR perceptions of what will make their product better and make them more money or make sure they keep making money.

The suggestion forum and voting mechanism are no doubt 90 percent show, something to make customers happy and have a venue to make suggestions for those that like to do that. While the Devs here do seem to take them more seriously than say Sony or other bigger studios, they still are not going to be constrained or unduly motivated by +1s or -1s. After all there are plenty of suggestions that were voted on and very popular that are collecting dust many moons later. Yet other ideas, like my CPU team penalty, are met with hate and vitriole that scorched the server hard drive but were implemented within the week.