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hatchman
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Originally posted by yello1
For someone who spends so much time on a forum its immensely LOL that you consider posts on a forum to be a pain in the ass.

And there you go again judging my ideas for why I make them. I smell soup.

And, again, my suggestions are ALWAYS about making the game better.



you can keep popping off your little remarks about soup all you want. if someone else did the kind of suggestion thing you do you would actually see what most of us see from you. you say you make suggestions to help the game yet your suggestions for the most part only deal with the league you are in or something concerning problems your teams face. and as far as you trying to say I think this forum is LOL well you are wrong. I take this forum seriously and I am trying to do my part in helping make the game better. what I find LOL is you and your shotgun approach to suggestions.
 
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-1, now is not the time to start making more changes to the sim
 
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Originally posted by hatchman
Originally posted by yello1

For someone who spends so much time on a forum its immensely LOL that you consider posts on a forum to be a pain in the ass.

And there you go again judging my ideas for why I make them. I smell soup.

And, again, my suggestions are ALWAYS about making the game better.



you can keep popping off your little remarks about soup all you want. if someone else did the kind of suggestion thing you do you would actually see what most of us see from you. you say you make suggestions to help the game yet your suggestions for the most part only deal with the league you are in or something concerning problems your teams face. and as far as you trying to say I think this forum is LOL well you are wrong. I take this forum seriously and I am trying to do my part in helping make the game better. what I find LOL is you and your shotgun approach to suggestions.


1) You have said you -1 suggestions you wouldnt use. How is that different from your throwing "self absorbed" at me?

2) They are about that league because that league is the focus of the game. Every non casual dot will eventually be in the Reg-Nat pros. Its the end point in the age progression.

3) WHY someone suggests something is irrelevant. The idea is either good or bad, works or doesnt. Your killing harmless electrons for no reason at all by wasting time talking about your speculation as to what brought an idea to my mind.

4) Having a superior intellect trained to look for and solve problems and offering solutions is not shot gun. Its just a part of being intelligent. Napolean had seven dictations going at once, not because he was shot gunning ideas but because he had a lot of ideas. Beyond Moscow and Waterloo they were mostly pretty good too.

 
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Originally posted by jkid2
-1, now is not the time to start making more changes to the sim


Its always a time to fix a broken part of the sim. And pathing that lets dots stack up behind a blocked defender like rush hour traffic in a catte chute is broken.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Power HBs still have shoe laces. Little guys take down big guys it happens.

The 180 degree thing, alot of the pathing etc is borked all around though. Or at least how its drawn on the screen anyway, which is all we have to go on.


Just stop....... and my answer to your bullshit, is a big guy can get in the way of 3 small guys on an outside run too....... it happens (so take your whine thread somewhere else). Lets not use the logic of something with a very little chance of happening as "it happens" when forwarding the argument that one guy cannot possibly get into the way of the wave of little guys trying to get to the outside. Both happen ALL THE TIME, when neither should happen very often. The little fucker should have a one in 10 chance of making the play on the guy's shoelaces.........

Please please, just stfu in the forums for a while. Most here would appreciate it.
 
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Originally posted by We_Rule
Originally posted by yello1

Power HBs still have shoe laces. Little guys take down big guys it happens.

The 180 degree thing, alot of the pathing etc is borked all around though. Or at least how its drawn on the screen anyway, which is all we have to go on.


Just stop....... and my answer to your bullshit, is a big guy can get in the way of 3 small guys on an outside run too....... it happens (so take your whine thread somewhere else). Lets not use the logic of something with a very little chance of happening as "it happens" when forwarding the argument that one guy cannot possibly get into the way of the wave of little guys trying to get to the outside. Both happen ALL THE TIME, when neither should happen very often. The little fucker should have a one in 10 chance of making the play on the guy's shoelaces.........

Please please, just stfu in the forums for a while. Most here would appreciate it.


BS

You think it happens, show me a link to game film, if it happens as much in the NFL as it does here, two or three guys held by a blocker for a whole long outside run, you can surely come up with ten links to instances of it online. Right?

 
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I agree that one offensive player shouldn't be able to block and HOLD THE BLOCKS on 3 defensive players simultaneously, but being able to pancake 1, move onto another, pancake him, move onto the 3rd, that is fine with me. However seeing 3 standing dots all stacked up on one offensive dot, with none of them breaking free, pretty important problem imo.
 
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also i didn't read any other posts besides the OP
 
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Originally posted by Carl Ellir
I agree that one offensive player shouldn't be able to block and HOLD THE BLOCKS on 3 defensive players simultaneously, but being able to pancake 1, move onto another, pancake him, move onto the 3rd, that is fine with me. However seeing 3 standing dots all stacked up on one offensive dot, with none of them breaking free, pretty important problem imo.


Exactly, if Godzilla can wade through em one at a time I have no issue with that. Its the keystone cop silliness that bugs me and is broken.

BTW I was looking for plays online and came across this gem unrelated to our discussion. Check out the hit/tackle/WRcatch at 4:28. Not the catch of the ball but the catch of ball and receiver the LB makes. LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmwJbmgZBvM
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Once again its time to ask

Can we PLEASE get a fix so that one blocker is not able to block two or more defenders at the same freaking time!!!!!!

Nothing so stupid as watching Conan holding back half a dozen Keystone Klutzs in each hand while the running back waltzes on by laughing his azz off.

Fix the pathing or the blocking routine or whatever the heck it is already. Its annoying and dumb.


They aren't actually blocking two Dots, one is being screened by his team mate who is getting blocked. Saw that very thing happen last night in the Detroit/New Orleans game.
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Originally posted by yello1

Once again its time to ask

Can we PLEASE get a fix so that one blocker is not able to block two or more defenders at the same freaking time!!!!!!

Nothing so stupid as watching Conan holding back half a dozen Keystone Klutzs in each hand while the running back waltzes on by laughing his azz off.

Fix the pathing or the blocking routine or whatever the heck it is already. Its annoying and dumb.


They aren't actually blocking two Dots, one is being screened by his team mate who is getting blocked. Saw that very thing happen last night in the Detroit/New Orleans game.


For how many seconds?

How far away was the second defender when he decided to run into this screen? In GLB a defender will run several yards straight into a screen and be blocked by it for the entire play.

A momentary delay before being able to get around in between two close together defenders close to the blocker to begin with is one thing. If a TE blocking the LOLB makes the LDE have to move backwards before he moves out to the flats, thats fine. I dont think they should be transparent. But the LDE should not spend the entire play sitting there waiting for the LOLB to break the TEs block.

Its like saying a Wall will keep people from going someplace therefore holding up a plank should too. But the truth is, you can just go around the plank.
 
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are there any examples in this thread of any replays or is all just a random vent?
 
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Originally posted by darncat
are there any examples in this thread of any replays or is all just a random vent?


This ain't the Bugs section, we don't need no stinkin replays.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
For how many seconds?

How far away was the second defender when he decided to run into this screen? In GLB a defender will run several yards straight into a screen and be blocked by it for the entire play.

A momentary delay before being able to get around in between two close together defenders close to the blocker to begin with is one thing. If a TE blocking the LOLB makes the LDE have to move backwards before he moves out to the flats, thats fine. I dont think they should be transparent. But the LDE should not spend the entire play sitting there waiting for the LOLB to break the TEs block.

Its like saying a Wall will keep people from going someplace therefore holding up a plank should too. But the truth is, you can just go around the plank.


It was the D line one over, LT or DE screening off the NT I think. And it stayed that way long enough for the HB to get outside and make a good play from nothing.

Crank the vision and agility out the roof and you will find your Dots don't run into each other as much. I saw a couple games where my return specialist, (team went CPU and it shoved him into the CB depth chart) came from the CB1 position, dodged around some LB, D line and shot a gap in the O line to make some tackles on the HB. Did it many times throughout the 3 or so games. Of course, that means sacrificing on other stats. So many Dot builders want their Dot to be able to do everything, but you can't build them to do everything, so they expect Bort to change the game. Ever watch Dion Sanders, damn good pass defender, but couldn't tackle for crap. NFL never changed the rules for him.
Edited by Dr. E on Jan 8, 2012 10:24:42
 
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Originally posted by Dr. E
Originally posted by yello1

For how many seconds?

How far away was the second defender when he decided to run into this screen? In GLB a defender will run several yards straight into a screen and be blocked by it for the entire play.

A momentary delay before being able to get around in between two close together defenders close to the blocker to begin with is one thing. If a TE blocking the LOLB makes the LDE have to move backwards before he moves out to the flats, thats fine. I dont think they should be transparent. But the LDE should not spend the entire play sitting there waiting for the LOLB to break the TEs block.

Its like saying a Wall will keep people from going someplace therefore holding up a plank should too. But the truth is, you can just go around the plank.


It was the D line one over, LT or DE screening off the NT I think. And it stayed that way long enough for the HB to get outside and make a good play from nothing.

Crank the vision and agility out the roof and you will find your Dots don't run into each other as much. I saw a couple games where my return specialist, (team went CPU and it shoved him into the CB depth chart) came from the CB1 position, dodged around some LB, D line and shot a gap in the O line to make some tackles on the HB. Did it many times throughout the 3 or so games. Of course, that means sacrificing on other stats. So many Dot builders want their Dot to be able to do everything, but you can't build them to do everything, so they expect Bort to change the game. Ever watch Dion Sanders, damn good pass defender, but couldn't tackle for crap. NFL never changed the rules for him.


Well thats what I was saying, you are talking about linemen trying to go sideways down the line. They are jammed up in line together in close proximity and going the same way. Thats a natural log jam, should take a second or two for them to get around. Not longer though.

But what I am talking about is guys running headlong into the backs of their team mates for no reason. Would take a slight turn to avoid. Given that tacklers will run downfield to meet runners as efficiently as possible its idiotic that they wont make a minor turn to go around a traffic jam.

As for agility and vision on my builds they always have both high. And I try to sign FAs the same way.

 
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