Warrior General Games

Originally posted by jdbolick
I think you can get all those to the high 70s / low 80s.

I didnt do any sort of testing on it. Was just throwing out random numbers for lows.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Good grief, you don't know this game at all. Your 10-15 more speed will not be a huge help if he falls for a fake or fails a cut. You will be trying to catch a faster WR from behind. As for avoid fake, that would be really easy to pick up if I need it. At 90+ vision and 10 SV, I might not. That's something I can wait on to make a decision.

On the other hand, your CBs have shitty jumping and strength along with no MT%. So even if they don't get beat on a fake, they will have a much lower chance of making a play on the ball, making tackles, and breaking blocks.

Agility helps avoid Jukes and Head Fakes. Vision is an overrated stat, especially since vision checks are ultimately easy to pass and generally big plays come from the Superior Vision check anyways. Nothing can avoid being Pump Faked, you can only hope to make up ground after being faked, which will be a lot harder to do without Ball Hawk, so will rely more on the guy who possibly isnt faked to make the play or rely on pressure to get to the qb first. Much like real football. (tho CB's in man coverage somehow have eyes in the back of their dothead in dotball.)

Originally posted by bhall43
Agility helps avoid Jukes and Head Fakes. Vision is an overrated stat, especially since vision checks are ultimately easy to pass and generally big plays come from the Superior Vision check anyways. Nothing can avoid being Pump Faked, you can only hope to make up ground after being faked, which will be a lot harder to do without Ball Hawk, so will rely more on the guy who possibly isnt faked to make the play or rely on pressure to get to the qb first. Much like real football. (tho CB's in man coverage somehow have eyes in the back of their dothead in dotball.)

I disagree with vision being overrated, but I do agree that agility helps to recover from fakes/cuts. It's one of the reasons I'm planning on having 100 agility on my CBs in the future instead of the current 90. I'm hoping on this guy that having the 10 FS/CD will allow him to recover from any vision checks that he fails.

The eyes in the back of their head thing is something that frequently pisses me off when watching my offensive dots. I get tired of seeing defenders in a blocking struggle tackle offensive dots that appear to be running behind the defender.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I disagree with vision being overrated, but I do agree that agility helps to recover from fakes/cuts. It's one of the reasons I'm planning on having 100 agility on my CBs in the future instead of the current 90. I'm hoping on this guy that having the 10 FS/CD will allow him to recover from any vision checks that he fails.

The eyes in the back of their head thing is something that frequently pisses me off when watching my offensive dots. I get tired of seeing defenders in a blocking struggle tackle offensive dots that appear to be running behind the defender.

I have looked through a crap ton of replays on my 155 speed/100 agility/80 vision players and have hardly seen a juke or head fake from any of them. However my higher vision, lower agility guys seem to get faked here and there. I am just not really all that big of a vision believer right now, at least not to the degree of hurting agility for it. Maybe ill feel differently with Ball Hawk being nerfed....guess we will see.

Originally posted by bhall43
I have looked through a crap ton of replays on my 155 speed/100 agility/80 vision players and have hardly seen a juke or head fake from any of them. However my higher vision, lower agility guys seem to get faked here and there. I am just not really all that big of a vision believer right now, at least not to the degree of hurting agility for it. Maybe ill feel differently with Ball Hawk being nerfed....guess we will see.

Any SV or AF% on those dots? Also, Vision is apparently one of the top two parts of the swat score along with Jumping.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Any SV or AF% on those dots? Also, Vision is apparently one of the top two parts of the swat score along with Jumping.

No avoid fake. That's fools gold to me.

9-10 super vision on all my guys. Its the only sa I trust outside of first step.

Also my swat score isn't better on the higher vision guys, but kl is more their thing with higher strength and tackling.

For what it's worth I'd take SA's dot over LHF's 10 times out of 10.

Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

Any SV or AF% on those dots? Also, Vision is apparently one of the top two parts of the swat score along with Jumping.

No avoid fake. That's fools gold to me.

9-10 super vision on all my guys. Its the only sa I trust outside of first step.

Also my swat score isn't better on the higher vision guys, but kl is more their thing with higher strength and tackling.

i like AF% with SV. they are basically the same thing imo. so they go together, just like BB% with Shed Block and Break Thru. or DB% with SB, or BT% with Power Thru and SPin ect ect ect

Originally posted by foshizzel17
i like AF% with SV. they are basically the same thing imo. so they go together, just like BB% with Shed Block and Break Thru. or DB% with SB, or BT% with Power Thru and SPin ect ect ect

wat

Originally posted by FuriousGeorge
For what it's worth I'd take SA's dot over LHF's 10 times out of 10.

FWIW you don't know shit.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I actually thought of a way to bring world peace while I was in college. But I was high at the time, so I forgot.

i've solved so many world problems with a head full of mushrooms. Just couldn't understand what I wrote in the morning.

Originally posted by bhall43
No avoid fake. That's fools gold to me.

9-10 super vision on all my guys. Its the only sa I trust outside of first step.

Also my swat score isn't better on the higher vision guys, but kl is more their thing with higher strength and tackling.

I'm still unsure about whether I'll put some AF% on my guys starting next season. I suppose I can test it on one using CEQ and see if there's any noticeable improvement.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

Originally posted by foshizzel17

i like AF% with SV. they are basically the same thing imo. so they go together, just like BB% with Shed Block and Break Thru. or DB% with SB, or BT% with Power Thru and SPin ect ect ect

Originally posted by bhall43

wat



its not that complicated guys

Originally posted by foshizzel17
its not that complicated guys

Too much for you, apparently.