If you really want to see CPU dots get nerfed, field a bunch of teams with 55 CPU dots and flood the game with teams like that. Either they'll be overpowered and people will cry, or they'll suck and people will cry that the leagues suck. Either way it would get adjusted. I figure the OP would enjoy the same level of success he is used to that way, and would cost 2% as much too. Wouldn't hurt him a bit to field six teams that way.
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Originally posted by lhass
There were several all CPU teams in Regional Pro #4 this season and they kicked a lot of tail - Devonport, Demon Llamas, Hellas Hoplites, etc. nearly all of them made the playoffs and they beat playoff teams in both conferences during the season. Not good dotbuilders is bull - you don't know what you are talking about so you shut up!!!
Um...Regional Pro #4 is a Competitive-level league... which means it's full of teams that weren't good enough to stay in Elite.
If you're A.) in a Competitive league instead of an Elite league and B.) are regularly losing to teams with an all-CPU roster, you are not as good at dotball as you think you are.
If you can find some all-CPU rosters that are kicking tail in an ELITE league, then I might -- might -- agree that CPU dots are overpowered. But I doubt you can.
And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run.
But I really couldn't care less about the self-esteem of terribad owners in Competitive leagues who can't figure out how to beat a roster of CPU players. If you don't want to lose to a CPU-roster, learn how to gameplan better.
There were several all CPU teams in Regional Pro #4 this season and they kicked a lot of tail - Devonport, Demon Llamas, Hellas Hoplites, etc. nearly all of them made the playoffs and they beat playoff teams in both conferences during the season. Not good dotbuilders is bull - you don't know what you are talking about so you shut up!!!
Um...Regional Pro #4 is a Competitive-level league... which means it's full of teams that weren't good enough to stay in Elite.
If you're A.) in a Competitive league instead of an Elite league and B.) are regularly losing to teams with an all-CPU roster, you are not as good at dotball as you think you are.
If you can find some all-CPU rosters that are kicking tail in an ELITE league, then I might -- might -- agree that CPU dots are overpowered. But I doubt you can.
And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run.
But I really couldn't care less about the self-esteem of terribad owners in Competitive leagues who can't figure out how to beat a roster of CPU players. If you don't want to lose to a CPU-roster, learn how to gameplan better.
Originally posted by Novus
Originally posted by lhass
There were several all CPU teams in Regional Pro #4 this season and they kicked a lot of tail - Devonport, Demon Llamas, Hellas Hoplites, etc. nearly all of them made the playoffs and they beat playoff teams in both conferences during the season. Not good dotbuilders is bull - you don't know what you are talking about so you shut up!!!
Um...Regional Pro #4 is a Competitive-level league... which means it's full of teams that weren't good enough to stay in Elite.
If you're A.) in a Competitive league instead of an Elite league and B.) are regularly losing to teams with an all-CPU roster, you are not as good at dotball as you think you are.
If you can find some all-CPU rosters that are kicking tail in an ELITE league, then I might -- might -- agree that CPU dots are overpowered. But I doubt you can.
And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run.
But I really couldn't care less about the self-esteem of terribad owners in Competitive leagues who can't figure out how to beat a roster of CPU players. If you don't want to lose to a CPU-roster, learn how to gameplan better.
The bolded part is the most important part of this
A very good OC and DC with all CPU dots will beat human controlled teams where the OC and DC don't know what they are doing
You don't see this happening in Elite Leagues
Regional Pro is just horrible - I mean really horrible
Originally posted by lhass
There were several all CPU teams in Regional Pro #4 this season and they kicked a lot of tail - Devonport, Demon Llamas, Hellas Hoplites, etc. nearly all of them made the playoffs and they beat playoff teams in both conferences during the season. Not good dotbuilders is bull - you don't know what you are talking about so you shut up!!!
Um...Regional Pro #4 is a Competitive-level league... which means it's full of teams that weren't good enough to stay in Elite.
If you're A.) in a Competitive league instead of an Elite league and B.) are regularly losing to teams with an all-CPU roster, you are not as good at dotball as you think you are.
If you can find some all-CPU rosters that are kicking tail in an ELITE league, then I might -- might -- agree that CPU dots are overpowered. But I doubt you can.
And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run.
But I really couldn't care less about the self-esteem of terribad owners in Competitive leagues who can't figure out how to beat a roster of CPU players. If you don't want to lose to a CPU-roster, learn how to gameplan better.
The bolded part is the most important part of this
A very good OC and DC with all CPU dots will beat human controlled teams where the OC and DC don't know what they are doing
You don't see this happening in Elite Leagues
Regional Pro is just horrible - I mean really horrible
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Also, lhass, did you really just say the Hellas Hoplites are "kicking tail" in Regional Pro #4?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=857
I didn't realize that an 8-8 record, a #8 seed, a loss of 255-0 to one team and a loss of 102-0 to another team constituted "kicking tail."
Or the Demon Llamas, who finished 8-8 and #10 and lost a game 102-6 and lost another one 69-3.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2986
You need a new definition for "kicking tail."
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=857
I didn't realize that an 8-8 record, a #8 seed, a loss of 255-0 to one team and a loss of 102-0 to another team constituted "kicking tail."
Or the Demon Llamas, who finished 8-8 and #10 and lost a game 102-6 and lost another one 69-3.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=2986
You need a new definition for "kicking tail."
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Obviously kicking tail means squeaking by shit teams and getting beat by 200 to good teams.
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Originally posted by Dub J
Obviously kicking tail means squeaking by shit teams and getting beat by 200 to good teams.
Obviously.
And yes, Davenport is in the Regional Pro #4 title game with an all-CPU roster, but looking at the team they're about to play, I'm pretty sure Davenport is looking at a triple-digit loss. Plus, y'know, COMPETITIVE LEAGUE. Again, call me if this happens in an Elite league, and I'll get the news to Anderson Cooper.
Obviously kicking tail means squeaking by shit teams and getting beat by 200 to good teams.
Obviously.
And yes, Davenport is in the Regional Pro #4 title game with an all-CPU roster, but looking at the team they're about to play, I'm pretty sure Davenport is looking at a triple-digit loss. Plus, y'know, COMPETITIVE LEAGUE. Again, call me if this happens in an Elite league, and I'll get the news to Anderson Cooper.
Originally posted by Kirghiz
If you really want to see CPU dots get nerfed, field a bunch of teams with 55 CPU dots and flood the game with teams like that. Either they'll be overpowered and people will cry, or they'll suck and people will cry that the leagues suck. Either way it would get adjusted. I figure the OP would enjoy the same level of success he is used to that way, and would cost 2% as much too. Wouldn't hurt him a bit to field six teams that way.
The point of the OP is that this is already begining to happen, as judged by my own experiences and by the number of CPU team flame posts on the forums. IMO More of this would be bad for the game.
If you really want to see CPU dots get nerfed, field a bunch of teams with 55 CPU dots and flood the game with teams like that. Either they'll be overpowered and people will cry, or they'll suck and people will cry that the leagues suck. Either way it would get adjusted. I figure the OP would enjoy the same level of success he is used to that way, and would cost 2% as much too. Wouldn't hurt him a bit to field six teams that way.
The point of the OP is that this is already begining to happen, as judged by my own experiences and by the number of CPU team flame posts on the forums. IMO More of this would be bad for the game.
Edited by yello1 on Dec 8, 2011 23:05:36
Originally posted by Novus
Originally posted by Dub J
Obviously kicking tail means squeaking by shit teams and getting beat by 200 to good teams.
Obviously.
And yes, Davenport is in the Regional Pro #4 title game with an all-CPU roster, but looking at the team they're about to play, I'm pretty sure Davenport is looking at a triple-digit loss. Plus, y'know, COMPETITIVE LEAGUE. Again, call me if this happens in an Elite league, and I'll get the news to Anderson Cooper.
You do realize that the people in the competitive leagues are still people that are paying to play the game right?
And no matter how much he loses by in the Championship, he beat out 15 paying customers in the conference he won the title too.
15 paying customers with 40-50 players per team many of which are going to be paying customers as well.
Its not about how 1337 you are. No one cares how good you think you are, or how good you think we are not.
Its about customer satisfaction and keeping the business that is GLB afloat so we can all continue to play it.
If you could manage to stop patting yourself on the back long enough to ponder that, you might begin to see why, win or lose, an all CPU team in a championship game at ANY level of play is not a good thing for GLB.
Originally posted by Dub J
Obviously kicking tail means squeaking by shit teams and getting beat by 200 to good teams.
Obviously.
And yes, Davenport is in the Regional Pro #4 title game with an all-CPU roster, but looking at the team they're about to play, I'm pretty sure Davenport is looking at a triple-digit loss. Plus, y'know, COMPETITIVE LEAGUE. Again, call me if this happens in an Elite league, and I'll get the news to Anderson Cooper.
You do realize that the people in the competitive leagues are still people that are paying to play the game right?
And no matter how much he loses by in the Championship, he beat out 15 paying customers in the conference he won the title too.
15 paying customers with 40-50 players per team many of which are going to be paying customers as well.
Its not about how 1337 you are. No one cares how good you think you are, or how good you think we are not.
Its about customer satisfaction and keeping the business that is GLB afloat so we can all continue to play it.
If you could manage to stop patting yourself on the back long enough to ponder that, you might begin to see why, win or lose, an all CPU team in a championship game at ANY level of play is not a good thing for GLB.
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Originally posted by yello1
IMO More of this would be bad for the game.
Of course it would. That is why you do it. Could you imagine the butthurt of people that lost games to Yello1's team full of CPU dots? They'd fix them for sure then.
IMO More of this would be bad for the game.
Of course it would. That is why you do it. Could you imagine the butthurt of people that lost games to Yello1's team full of CPU dots? They'd fix them for sure then.
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lol glb doesnt need to cater to the weak. if you are losing to cpu teams its a message that ur dot building skills are horrible or u need to fire ur oc/dc or both. cpu skill wise can only be so good.
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Originally posted by yello1
If you could manage to stop patting yourself on the back long enough to ponder that, you might begin to see why, win or lose, an all CPU team in a championship game at ANY level of play is not a good thing for GLB.
Which is why I +1'ed your Suggestion.
Way to pay attention, yello.
My argument is with the people who are saying "OMG CPU TEAMS ARE BEATING HUMAN TEAMS THAT MUST MEAN CPU DOTS ARE OVERPOWERED NERF ALL CPU DOTS." They're leaving out an important part... CPU teams are beating BAD human teams. That doesn't mean CPU teams are overpowered... it means that CPU teams are good enough to beat BAD human teams.
But as I've said for now the third time... wait, screw it, let me just copy-and-paste. Maybe you'll actually read it this time:
"And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run."
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Do whatever you want to do to CPU dots. Nerf them. Penalize owners who use too many of them. Hell, eliminate them altogether. At the end of the day, instead of bad human teams losing to CPU teams by 51-13 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1876732 ), you'll just have bad human teams losing to better human teams by 130-0 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1837681 ).
See what I did there? Your worst losses this season were to teams with HUMAN rosters, not CPU rosters. That should tell you right there that your real problem is not that you're losing to CPU rosters. Your real problem is that you aren't very good at dotball.
And no, I ain't exactly the dotball Vince Lombardi myself. But I've also never lost to a CPU roster, so that's something.
If you could manage to stop patting yourself on the back long enough to ponder that, you might begin to see why, win or lose, an all CPU team in a championship game at ANY level of play is not a good thing for GLB.
Which is why I +1'ed your Suggestion.
Way to pay attention, yello.
My argument is with the people who are saying "OMG CPU TEAMS ARE BEATING HUMAN TEAMS THAT MUST MEAN CPU DOTS ARE OVERPOWERED NERF ALL CPU DOTS." They're leaving out an important part... CPU teams are beating BAD human teams. That doesn't mean CPU teams are overpowered... it means that CPU teams are good enough to beat BAD human teams.
But as I've said for now the third time... wait, screw it, let me just copy-and-paste. Maybe you'll actually read it this time:
"And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run."
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Do whatever you want to do to CPU dots. Nerf them. Penalize owners who use too many of them. Hell, eliminate them altogether. At the end of the day, instead of bad human teams losing to CPU teams by 51-13 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1876732 ), you'll just have bad human teams losing to better human teams by 130-0 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1837681 ).
See what I did there? Your worst losses this season were to teams with HUMAN rosters, not CPU rosters. That should tell you right there that your real problem is not that you're losing to CPU rosters. Your real problem is that you aren't very good at dotball.
And no, I ain't exactly the dotball Vince Lombardi myself. But I've also never lost to a CPU roster, so that's something.
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By "kicked tail" I meant they had some impressive wins as a group. Demon beat some of the high seed teams that made the playoffs, etc and I realize they also lost badly to other teams. Devonport even lost to a team with an average level in the 40+ range if memory serves. It is over and done but the insults to our team and players goes on without letup. Ok I admit we are terrible at gameplanning, our builds stink, and we beat every team in our conference with pure luck. Now - leave the CPU teams alone, they have problems other than our constant complaining to deal with. Really glad we are not in the ELITE leagues based on the attitude of their owners we have seen in this thread. Losing to one of them would bring on months of trash talking.
Originally posted by Novus
Originally posted by yello1
If you could manage to stop patting yourself on the back long enough to ponder that, you might begin to see why, win or lose, an all CPU team in a championship game at ANY level of play is not a good thing for GLB.
Which is why I +1'ed your Suggestion.
Way to pay attention, yello.
My argument is with the people who are saying "OMG CPU TEAMS ARE BEATING HUMAN TEAMS THAT MUST MEAN CPU DOTS ARE OVERPOWERED NERF ALL CPU DOTS." They're leaving out an important part... CPU teams are beating BAD human teams. That doesn't mean CPU teams are overpowered... it means that CPU teams are good enough to beat BAD human teams.
But as I've said for now the third time... wait, screw it, let me just copy-and-paste. Maybe you'll actually read it this time:
"And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run."
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Do whatever you want to do to CPU dots. Nerf them. Penalize owners who use too many of them. Hell, eliminate them altogether. At the end of the day, instead of bad human teams losing to CPU teams by 51-13 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1876732 ), you'll just have bad human teams losing to better human teams by 130-0 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1837681 ).
See what I did there? Your worst losses this season were to teams with HUMAN rosters, not CPU rosters. That should tell you right there that your real problem is not that you're losing to CPU rosters. Your real problem is that you aren't very good at dotball.
And no, I ain't exactly the dotball Vince Lombardi myself. But I've also never lost to a CPU roster, so that's something.
Again, I am not worried about MY problem. the Word stink, I know that. Its my third tier team. We have non boosters FFS.
What made me post the post was all the CPU rants in the suggestion forums, and the two all CPU teams I have played this season.
My point in the back patting comment is that too many people in this game waste too much time blaming the players for defects in the game because it makes them feel better about their uber GLB skillz.
But Its like saying the family whose Toyota drove them off a cliff shoulda taken a defensive driving course. It misses the point, to say the least.
Originally posted by yello1
If you could manage to stop patting yourself on the back long enough to ponder that, you might begin to see why, win or lose, an all CPU team in a championship game at ANY level of play is not a good thing for GLB.
Which is why I +1'ed your Suggestion.
Way to pay attention, yello.
My argument is with the people who are saying "OMG CPU TEAMS ARE BEATING HUMAN TEAMS THAT MUST MEAN CPU DOTS ARE OVERPOWERED NERF ALL CPU DOTS." They're leaving out an important part... CPU teams are beating BAD human teams. That doesn't mean CPU teams are overpowered... it means that CPU teams are good enough to beat BAD human teams.
But as I've said for now the third time... wait, screw it, let me just copy-and-paste. Maybe you'll actually read it this time:
"And lest you forget, I +1'ed the OP's Suggestion -- not because I think CPU dots are overpowered (I don't), but because I believe that team owners being able to be successful with all-CPU rosters is going to erode human participation in the game in the long-run."
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Do whatever you want to do to CPU dots. Nerf them. Penalize owners who use too many of them. Hell, eliminate them altogether. At the end of the day, instead of bad human teams losing to CPU teams by 51-13 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1876732 ), you'll just have bad human teams losing to better human teams by 130-0 ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1837681 ).
See what I did there? Your worst losses this season were to teams with HUMAN rosters, not CPU rosters. That should tell you right there that your real problem is not that you're losing to CPU rosters. Your real problem is that you aren't very good at dotball.
And no, I ain't exactly the dotball Vince Lombardi myself. But I've also never lost to a CPU roster, so that's something.
Again, I am not worried about MY problem. the Word stink, I know that. Its my third tier team. We have non boosters FFS.
What made me post the post was all the CPU rants in the suggestion forums, and the two all CPU teams I have played this season.
My point in the back patting comment is that too many people in this game waste too much time blaming the players for defects in the game because it makes them feel better about their uber GLB skillz.
But Its like saying the family whose Toyota drove them off a cliff shoulda taken a defensive driving course. It misses the point, to say the least.
Originally posted by Diamond Spade
lol glb doesnt need to cater to the weak. if you are losing to cpu teams its a message that ur dot building skills are horrible or u need to fire ur oc/dc or both. cpu skill wise can only be so good.
For instance
The WEAK are half your player base or more.
If GLB DOESNT consider them in its game design, GLB will be defunct toot sweet.
lol glb doesnt need to cater to the weak. if you are losing to cpu teams its a message that ur dot building skills are horrible or u need to fire ur oc/dc or both. cpu skill wise can only be so good.
For instance
The WEAK are half your player base or more.
If GLB DOESNT consider them in its game design, GLB will be defunct toot sweet.
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