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tbsteel
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Pretty much on the money.

Seems like the only real pass rushing DTs I remember were killed off with weight-gate.

Definitely needs to be addressed going forward to make a more realistic and overall better sim.
 
peadawg
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Originally posted by merenoise
Your numbers are a little off. There were 6 DTs in the top 40 last season. Suh, Smith, Idonije, Kelly, Raji & Robbins all had between 6 & 10 sacks.



Idonije is listed as a DE per the NFL webpage. You'd have to argue that point with them.



 
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Originally posted by peadawg
Originally posted by merenoise

Your numbers are a little off. There were 6 DTs in the top 40 last season. Suh, Smith, Idonije, Kelly, Raji & Robbins all had between 6 & 10 sacks.



Idonije is listed as a DE per the NFL webpage. You'd have to argue that point with them.




Idonine played LE this season. Henry Melton played DT.
 
regoob2
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Originally posted by foshizzel17
Anybody tried 10pts in Relentless Pursuit and just rush 3 people all the time


I've gone to 5 with no real change.
 
Dpride59
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bad advice. Just get your dt on a crummy team, get 15 big heart and roll
 
bdogg13
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Originally posted by merenoise
Originally posted by peadawg

If you want to compare to RL, there are 5 DT's in the top 50 in 2010 sacks....SUH had 10 and the rest had from 5-7.



Your numbers are a little off. There were 6 DTs in the top 40 last season. Suh (10), Smith (8.5), Idonije(8), Kelly (7), Raji(6.5) & Robbins(6) all notching more sacks than the best secondary blitzer FS Michael Huff who got a whooping 4 sacks.

Originally posted by peadawg

You act like the only good dots are on the defense and that the OL builders aren't building great dots to stop the sacks.


No one is arguing that elite pass rushing DTs should dominate elite pass blocking offensive linemen. Right now however, elite pass rushing DTs aren't even dominating average linemen built primarily for run blocking. A top notch DT built to pass rush should be getting past o-linemen who built to run block at least some of the time. Right now that dynamic is nearly non-existent outside of blowouts.


Not to mention that most DE's in a 3-4 are actually DT.
 
Dpride59
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Yeah, dt's who are built to rush the passer with 68 va's into pass rushing/reverse cakeing, and all pass rushing sa's aren't even able to get a sack vs mediocre olineman with no pass blocking sa's or va's... Anyone arguing that the dt/ol dynamic in glb isn't completely fucking broke just doesn't pay attention
 
The Avenger
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Originally posted by Dpride59
Yeah, dt's who are built to rush the passer with 68 va's into pass rushing/reverse cakeing, and all pass rushing sa's aren't even able to get a sack vs mediocre olineman with no pass blocking sa's or va's... Anyone arguing that the dt/ol dynamic in glb isn't completely fucking broke just doesn't pay attention


speed > agility
 
Homage
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The worst part about this... is the best build DT's can't even separate themselves from the lower tier DT's in the leagues.
It's depressing. We're talking a difference of almost 100 sp's...
 
Homage
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Originally posted by The Avenger
speed > agility


seems to be working out great for you: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1583247
 
cwrujosh
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Originally posted by Homage
seems to be working out great for you: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1583247


Don't forget ,he plays lolcasual. He has no idea what works in the real GLB.
 
TrevJo
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Originally posted by TehKyou
Pockets don't collapse and QB can usually retreat 6+ yards before getting touched with no penalty to pass accuracy


And they throw to their primary target rather than hold the ball. And OL tend to double team DTs.
 
Bevo53
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I didn't know my DT led all DTs in sacks in WL. lol. He doesn't even have the 240+ (Strength+agi) rage was talking about.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1515309
 
buckiller
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Either fix the DT/OL dynamic or give me my money (or sp) back for my DT, after you make them 100sp/boost
Edited by buckiller on Apr 15, 2011 15:56:34
 
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by Bevo53
I didn't know my DT led all DTs in sacks in WL. lol. He doesn't even have the 240+ (Strength+agi) rage was talking about.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1515309


It's like a 5 or 6 way tie with 3. There are a bunch with 2 that have a shot at tying them.

It's all RNG at this point. There is no rhyme or reason for why a build gets a sack right now.

 
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