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BadgerPhil
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Originally posted by ryanolewski
How on earth do you have the hope below the Bullets when we just beat them 48-20..

is there such thing as a forum trashcan???


It's a formula, not subjective. You have 2 wins, they have 3. Wins carry the most weight.

I can only hope, there is somebody from "Hope" that understands this concept.
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dctitan49
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Originally posted by BadgerPhil
Originally posted by ryanolewski

How on earth do you have the hope below the Bullets when we just beat them 48-20..

is there such thing as a forum trashcan???


It's a formula, not subjective. You have 2 wins, they have 3. Wins carry the most weight.

I can only hope, there is somebody from "Hope" that understands this concept.


but we have 1 win OVER them....

Hope 1-0 vs Bullets
Bullets 0-1 vs Hope

I'm pretty sure head to head has a HUGE impact on determining power rankings....
 
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...sigh.
 
dctitan49
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Originally posted by BadgerPhil
...sigh.


Your taking like 3 variables into account, which makes it totally skewed...

Your not looking at Head to Head, RPI, Position comparisons, or anything else that takes time or work.

You basically half assed a list of teams in descending order with More wins at the Top and less wins towards the bottom.
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HaplosDog
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Originally posted by dctitan49
Originally posted by BadgerPhil

...sigh.


Your taking like 3 variables into account, which makes it totally skewed...

Your not looking at Head to Head, RPI, Position comparisons, or anything else that takes time or work.

You basically half assed a list of teams in descending order with More wins at the Top and less wins towards the bottom.


Hey, I know. Why don't you make your own statistical rankings and then you can include whichever variable you want.
 
dctitan49
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Originally posted by HaplosDog
Originally posted by dctitan49

Originally posted by BadgerPhil


...sigh.


Your taking like 3 variables into account, which makes it totally skewed...

Your not looking at Head to Head, RPI, Position comparisons, or anything else that takes time or work.

You basically half assed a list of teams in descending order with More wins at the Top and less wins towards the bottom.


Hey, I know. Why don't you make your own statistical rankings and then you can include whichever variable you want.


Ok I will....tomorrow probably around noon ill have it posted.

 
BadgerPhil
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And, then call it dctitan's formula!!

BTW, can't wait.
 
Grim Truth
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He's right, you know. It's a pretty half assed way to go about it just looking at a teams record, and ignoring their opponents and head-to-head comparisons. I mean, it takes no thought to just regergitate the standings, that's not a good indicator of anything.

The Hope have played 4 really good teams, and just blew out a team you want to put ahead of us because of a 1 win differential..?
 
BadgerPhil
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No worries, I don't need your validation.

And, to answer your question. Yes.
 
Grim Truth
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Then you're an idiot.

Not including one another these are the current records of the teams they have faced.

Bristol's Opponents: 5-8
New York's Opponents: 9-3

Bristol has beaten mostly bad teams, New York has beaten or stayed competitive with good teams. Then the head to head matchup.

New York (1-2): 48
Bristol (3-0): 20

It doesn't take a genious to see Bristol was overrated by a very crappy schedule.

But your "formula" doesn't look into that. It doesn't take into account that Bristol has beaten average teams (at best), while the Hope could easily be 3-1 against GOOD opponents and it doesn't take into account that the Hope beat the Bullets... Sounds to me like your formula is flawed.
 
BadgerPhil
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Don't worry one of your boys is making a formula that will include all the things that makes the HOPE a good 2 and 2 team. I'm sure you'll be in the top 3.

Also, I love (I mean LOVE) how people bitch about what other people do, when fact of the matter is most of them are too lazy to do something themselves. Simply Awesome. Then resort to name calling.

I've never backed down from how my rankings are formulated (nor will I explain them, because it's waste of time); so I suggest you do one and stick to it when people start picking at it.
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twine0801
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Originally posted by BadgerPhil
Don't worry one of your boys is making a formula that will include all the things that makes the HOPE a good 2 and 2 team. I'm sure you'll be in the top 3.

Also, I love (I mean LOVE) how people bitch about what other people do, when fact of the matter is most of them are too lazy to do something themselves. Simply Awesome. Then resort to name calling.

I've never backed down from how my rankings are formulated (nor will I explain them, because it waste of time); so I suggest you do one and stick to it when people start picking at it.


It's cool man, you got your opinion, and the rest of the BBB #1 has theirs, I personally thank you for taking the time and energy to make these rankings, I just dont agree with them. Like you said, they are YOUR rankings based on YOUR math. I think alot of people dont realize that they are your math based on schedules. Great effort, and like the BCS, can be totally fucked and wrong.
 
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Originally posted by twine0801
Originally posted by BadgerPhil

Don't worry one of your boys is making a formula that will include all the things that makes the HOPE a good 2 and 2 team. I'm sure you'll be in the top 3.

Also, I love (I mean LOVE) how people bitch about what other people do, when fact of the matter is most of them are too lazy to do something themselves. Simply Awesome. Then resort to name calling.

I've never backed down from how my rankings are formulated (nor will I explain them, because it waste of time); so I suggest you do one and stick to it when people start picking at it.


It's cool man, you got your opinion, and the rest of the BBB #1 has theirs, I personally thank you for taking the time and energy to make these rankings, I just dont agree with them. Like you said, they are YOUR rankings based on YOUR math. I think alot of people dont realize that they are your math based on schedules. Great effort, and like the BCS, can be totally fucked and wrong.


Yea i appreciate him doing it, but at least have some justification to your picks. You have given no justification to having the bullets over the hope except, they are 3-1, we are 2-2...

they're 1 loss came to who???

the New York Hope.
 
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Originally posted by twine0801
It's cool man, you got your opinion, and the rest of the BBB #1 has theirs, I personally thank you for taking the time and energy to make these rankings, I just dont agree with them. Like you said, they are YOUR rankings based on YOUR math. I think alot of people dont realize that they are your math based on schedules. Great effort, and like the BCS, can be totally fucked and wrong.


Haha, I commend you sir on your ability to mix civility with insult.

No worries, I have pretty thick skin.

 
Grim Truth
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Originally posted by BadgerPhil
Don't worry one of your boys is making a formula that will include all the things that makes the HOPE a good 2 and 2 team. I'm sure you'll be in the top 3.


The fact you don't think the Hope are amongst the best teams in the league based on how we have played and against who shows me, and all of us, all we need to know about your formula.

DC's will (hopefully) at least take things like that into account like someone elses Power Rankings on this forum, as opposed to your copy and paste job.

 
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