Warrior General Games

Pools updated. PLEASE take a moment to look at your team/group and ensure that I haven't made any errors. I double-checked, but I don't want to have anything wrong.

Assuming I have made no errors, here are the teams that advance to the next round:
A1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6918 S1W 3-0 (+34) Maine Grenadiers
A2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7793 S7W 2-1 (+80) Final Thought

B1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6864 S4W 3-0 (+62) DIRTY INC.
B2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6923 GW 2-1 (+14) Atlantic City Surf

C1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7781 GW 3-0 (+66) Lone Star Mercenaries
C2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6971 GE 2-1 (+44) Wambulance Academy

D1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7913 GE 3-0 (+59) Fighting Gamecocks
D2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6861 GW 2-1 (+88) Chicago 85'Bears

E1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7794 GW 2-1 (+30) New Orleans Pee Wees (PF-PA)
E2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6791 GE 2-1 (+11) Deep Throw It (PF-PA)
(note: SAS also ended 2-1, but had the lowest PF-PA of the three 2-1 teams)

F1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7659 S3E 3-0 (+15) Springfield Test Dummies
F2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7881 GW 2-1 (+13) Mississippi Mud Dogs

G1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=6898 GE 3-0 (+84) Short Bus Window Lickers
G2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7796 GW 2-1 (+33) Baltimore Gulls

H1 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7666 GE 2-1 (+1) Hobbittown Hairy Feet (head-to-head)
H2 http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=7889 GW 2-1 (+25) The Agency
(note: HHF won the head-to-head matchup, so they earn top spot regardless of the PF-PA)

Congratulations to the 16 teams that will advance to the next round!

The biggest surprise of the tournament so far for me is Group A. I was sure the defending Gold champs would advance. It's really surprising to see both Silver teams advancing and neither Gold team.

Originally posted by Gongadan
The biggest surprise of the tournament so far for me is Group A. I was sure the defending Gold champs would advance. It's really surprising to see both Silver teams advancing and neither Gold team.

Of course of the silver teams in this tournament, those are two most gold-like.

damn group E was tough...some real good defenses over there...good job SAS and Montpeilier, you guys are definitely gold caliber teams

EDIT: Gonga-since we beat NOPW H2H, and we are the 2 teams that advance with the tiebreak, does that mean we get the 1 seed? or is it still point differential at that point

Originally posted by MGeezy2186
Gonga-since we beat NOPW H2H, and we are the 2 teams that advance with the tiebreak, does that mean we get the 1 seed? or is it still point differential at that point
Interesting. My assumption was that if the head2head matchup didn't determine who was in or who was out, we'd move on to the next tie-breaker, which would determine not only who's in, but who the seeds are. But I can see your argument that of the two teams that advanced, you hold the h2h win over NOPW.

Obviously Tournaments will make the ultimate decision, but I'm sure he'd appreciate input from people involved in the tournament. What do you guys think? It only affects the top two teams from Group E (who had to go to the second tiebreaker to determine eligibility), so there are 30 teams involved who can offer an unbiased opinion. And of course the vast hordes of spectators.

In my olympic style which is basically the same, it went head to head then points scored, then points allowed. If still tied then who had the better season record. Usually points scored takes care of everything else.

I thought H2H was first tie breaker, before pts scored or pts differential.

If the records are the same you go to H2H in most any playoff type atmosphere.

/Shrugs

my thought is the tiebreakers are used to eliminate one team...after that, i am really unsure, and I think both teams can stake a claim to the top seed in the group

Originally posted by Dtownokie
I thought H2H was first tie breaker, before pts scored or pts differential.

If the records are the same you go to H2H in most any playoff type atmosphere.

/Shrugs

It is, but the deal was there are 3 teams all tied at 2-1 (and all went 1-1 against each other). So H2H won't work. So you have to use the 2nd tiebreaker, which they set up as point differential.

After that is used to take the top 2 teams...are they then put in order by point differential (b/c that was what was used to determine the 2/3 teams chosen), or do you revert back to the 1st tiebreaker of head to head? I'm not really sure.

But to be honest...with the 16 teams that advanced, it likely won't matter a whole lot. I'm not sure which system will be used, but it may be the difference between playing the Bears or FG or the difference between MMD & STD. Does it really matter?

Hm, I suppose we missed some foresight on that.

Had I included it, I'd have gone with using the second tie breaker to determine both.

Originally posted by PING72
It is, but the deal was there are 3 teams all tied at 2-1 (and all went 1-1 against each other). So H2H won't work. So you have to use the 2nd tiebreaker, which they set up as point differential.

After that is used to take the top 2 teams...are they then put in order by point differential (b/c that was what was used to determine the 2/3 teams chosen), or do you revert back to the 1st tiebreaker of head to head? I'm not really sure.

But to be honest...with the 16 teams that advanced, it likely won't matter a whole lot. I'm not sure which system will be used, but it may be the difference between playing the Bears or FG or the difference between MMD & STD. Does it really matter?

/shrug, yeah I do not know so I will step aside.

the bottom paragraph, I am not so sure. Some teams just match up better against others, I have seen it over and over again imo.
Just my food for thought.

Sucks someone has to lose out in a 3 way tie.

Originally posted by Dtownokie
Sucks someone has to lose out in a 3 way tie.
Luckily, there's no question that SAS should be out. The tiebreaker rules are unambiguous in determining that NOPW and D-Tit advance. The only ambiguity is in which team should be top seed and which should be second.

And Ping is probably right, it's not going to make a huge difference either way. All 16 of the advancing teams are obviously very very good.

Well, since we didn't make the rule - I'm literally going to do a coin flip (also, it'll be fun to post the video evidence.)

Since DTI had the lowest PD, that's like being the visiting team, I'll let them call heads or tails.

Go.