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Originally posted by Time Trial
Some teams make it to Gold and do well, other teams make it to Gold and languish. It is a real blow to your confidence when you go from being a hot-shot best team in Silver to being handed your team in Gold. Do you know why there are so many good teams in Silver? Because there are 32 teams in Gold. Remember that when you are running your mouth...

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I think it is important to remember a few key points of pee wee and the whole point of it. It honestly comes down to builds and coordinators more than anything. Copper, silver or Gold you can be competitive. Look at FCA, or the Boston Brusiers both very capable Copper teams. My team has had a great year so far, but I don't consider us any bettter than some 12-4 silver team without our amazing DC Gooder. If builds were 30%, I'd say offense is 30% and Defensive coordinator is monster and at least 40% of what makes a good pee wee team. Win, or lose today I'm very proud of my team and the wins we have. . The fact that we have won two trophies this year is nice, and from going from a 13-3 copper team I think it'd probably be the most improved 1st year silver team, if not one of the top 5 1st year silver teams peroid. But gold is full of teams with various experience levels and talent, but having said that it probably has 8 of the top 10 teams in it and 32 of the top 50 teams in it.

I am working on a tourney idea to help us judge the strength of silver conferences, but I'll be putting it out there in about a week or so. The fact is that every silver league has 4-5 good teams in it. I consider BGW, SoA, LIPW, Chargers, STD, and Lunch Box to be all great teams. I find it pretty silly how much trash s4 talks tbh, but there are some good teams there no doubt. Hopefully the tourney comes together I think it will be fun.

But I think for any 1st year gold team, a playoff appearance is a solid goal, no doubt that it is the most competitive league out there.

Moogz is correct. The coordinators/coaches are a large part of a team's success. If you look closely, you'll find that a lot of the top Silver teams have ties to successful coordinators in Gold. The bottom line is that there are quite a few good Silver teams out there. They hold some victories over good Gold teams. That being said, get to Gold and see how you hold up before you start talking trash. Try playing SBWL, TIA, MMD, and Fighting Gamecocks in back to back games from the East. In the West, you could play TO, Pugsimeaux, LSMM, and WVWP in a row. If you gameplan for opponents like that regularly, you're not going to put a lot of effort into gameplanning for a tourney game.

Originally posted by Moogz
If builds were 30%, I'd say offense is 30% and Defensive coordinator is monster and at least 40% of what makes a good pee wee team.

Examining the success of first year gold teams, you'll quickly notice that the defensive teams have the most immediate success. Teams like the Bears, WVWP, and DTit were all defensive teams, just like the crabs and others who made quick impacts on playoff races. Silver teams who can gruel out the 7-6 victory over top teams do better than those who have the 50-49 victories.

Also, if you don't have a team full of boosters & CEQ along with solid builds, you're not going to have deep playoff runs regardless of coaching.

On another note about the tourneys: silver teams have a large game planning advantage as well. Gold teams have to give it their all every single game. Silver teams can often screw around for all but a few regular season games. Especially early in the season, it sucks scouting a good silver team that has only played a couple games and won them all by a landslide, where there is solid footage on the gold team.

So what percent is CE and boosting? My team does not have CE and did not boost, but went 16-0 (not saying Im awesome), won our first round game against a semi-boosted team, won a shocker in the second round against a fully boosted team, but then got run over and shut out in the conf champ against a fully boosted team. I give most of the credit of beating a fully boosted team to my OC, but at some point coordinating only gets you so far in pee wee. I think when we have time to GP we can put up a fight against any similarly leveled pee wee team, but once teams start boosting you are toast.

If this discussion was assuming that levels are even then I apologize for being off topic. Otherwise I think CE and boosting are a huge factor in the quality of a pee wee team. 21 SPs are too much to overcome if the boosted team has good coordinators.

Originally posted by Gigolo Johnny D.
So what percent is CE and boosting? My team does not have CE and did not boost, but went 16-0 (not saying Im awesome), won our first round game against a semi-boosted team, won a shocker in the second round against a fully boosted team, but then got run over and shut out in the conf champ against a fully boosted team. I give most of the credit of beating a fully boosted team to my OC, but at some point coordinating only gets you so far in pee wee. I think when we have time to GP we can put up a fight against any similarly leveled pee wee team, but once teams start boosting you are toast.

If this discussion was assuming that levels are even then I apologize for being off topic. Otherwise I think CE and boosting are a huge factor in the quality of a pee wee team. 21 SPs are too much to overcome if the boosted team has good coordinators.

If you don't have a team where practically everyone boosts and wears CEQ in Gold, then be prepared to miss the playoffs or get killed in round 1. Each season, there's a few teams that boost early, a few teams that boost 3 or 4 games in, teams that go all in at level 5, teams that go half in at level 5, etc. All the good teams boost and have CEQ though.

You're correct in that it is too much to overcome if you don't have CEQ and boost too.

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My league is best -- we're in Gold. What's to argue about that?

Originally posted by juiceweezl
My league is best -- we're in Gold. What's to argue about that?

And the East still has a chance to win a trophy this season. SBWL has a mean passing attack and very strong defensive unit, TO has a strong balanced attack and very strong defense.

Originally posted by Gigolo Johnny D.
So what percent is CE and boosting? My team does not have CE and did not boost, but went 16-0 (not saying Im awesome), won our first round game against a semi-boosted team, won a shocker in the second round against a fully boosted team, but then got run over and shut out in the conf champ against a fully boosted team. I give most of the credit of beating a fully boosted team to my OC, but at some point coordinating only gets you so far in pee wee. I think when we have time to GP we can put up a fight against any similarly leveled pee wee team, but once teams start boosting you are toast.

If this discussion was assuming that levels are even then I apologize for being off topic. Otherwise I think CE and boosting are a huge factor in the quality of a pee wee team. 21 SPs are too much to overcome if the boosted team has good coordinators.

Final Thought was like that for a long time. We would typically have less than 5 players with CEQ and only about 50%-60% boosters. We'd have a good regular season, but get knocked out in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Last season we got a lot more CEQ...this season we're at about 95% boosting & CEQ and it definitely shows.

Originally posted by PING72
Final Thought was like that for a long time. We would typically have less than 5 players with CEQ and only about 50%-60% boosters. We'd have a good regular season, but get knocked out in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Last season we got a lot more CEQ...this season we're at about 95% boosting & CEQ and it definitely shows.

I can see that. My problem is I own 53 of 55 players and dont feel like dropping another $250 just to boost and probably the same for CE. Bort already has enough of my money! I guess I will focus on scrimmages during the season so I can see how I stack up against these other teams before they boost.

Originally posted by Time Trial
And the East still has a chance to win a trophy this season. SBWL has a mean passing attack and very strong defensive unit, TO has a strong balanced attack and very strong defense.

My stomach is turning having to cheer for SBWL to bring a .Gif to the East.

I think whatever Teams play in Championship Game. Should start a thread one for East and one for West.
And send LOL GM spots to ALL the Team Owners, and possibly OC's DC's in there conference for representation without taxation.

Oh shit this is a Silver 8 Thread...........I will copy and pate my above post to the Gold.

Sorry just browsing.

Originally posted by Time Trial
And the East still has a chance to win a trophy this season. SBWL has a mean passing attack and very strong defensive unit, TO has a strong balanced attack and very strong defense.

Should be a good game. It again goes to show how tough Gold is. SBWL lost 2 games including one to us. We lost in the second round soundly (to a team we had beaten earlier). There is no game off in Gold -- unless you play tournaments.

  Gold is overrated.