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Originally posted by zero
Originally posted by Gart888

See, that's a lesson i learned from the Rams game, and it's what make these blitzes particularly exploity. I was keeping the HB in to block on third down, but they found an exploit that confuses the blocking HB into not doing his job: having the MLB jump right into the gap, and the ROLB come a bit delayed, which for some reason causes the HB to say say "fuck the MLB who's about to sack our QB, i'll block that ROLB, he looks a bit easier". 5 guys rushing 6 is hardly an overload.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8714573
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8716172

My definition of exploit in this game is pretty simple: If any team can do it, and it's impossible to stop, it's an exploit.

I agree with you on those 2 plays being an exploit, and your definition of an exploit. Must have skipped over those two or thought otherwise.
And fwiw, I meant an overload on one side - not taking into account the whole line.

Agreed, but even then, ROLB, MLB, RDE vs. C, LG, LOT, HB shouldn't be an auto sack.

I'm making a list of exploit d blitzes and will soon post for all of GLB to have access to these blitzes instead of just select teams cuz they found em first...Teams are dumb to be using them now IMO.

Originally posted by kalkmanc
I'm making a list of exploit d blitzes and will soon post for all of GLB to have access to these blitzes instead of just select teams cuz they found em first...Teams are dumb to be using them now IMO.

well when you're a team like stewart who won't be around come playoff time, why not?

my DCs know about these exploit blitzes, but refuse to use them for ethical reasons. perhaps i'll need to hire a sleazebag DC come playoff time?

I wish you'd instead give them to Bort and tell him to fix em (lol), but that's better than nothing.

well until Bort fixes them, all teams should have fair access to them.

here is one for you http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=915655&pbp_id=9013288

and IMO this is one. HB won't ever block the FS cuz he is on the wrong side....supposedly you have to either not call shotgun plays or keep the TE on the left side to block every time. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=915655&pbp_id=9012770 why the HB just wont block that FS is beyond me.

but yeah, i'll work on a nice organized list later.

i guess teams could just run 100% and not worry about exploit pass blitzes

Originally posted by kalkmanc
i guess teams could just run 100% and not worry about exploit pass blitzes

which is terrrrrible for the game

Originally posted by Gart888
my DCs know about these exploit blitzes, but refuse to use them for ethical reasons. perhaps i'll need to hire a sleazebag DC come playoff time?

Gart=TSE?

Originally posted by joemiken
Gart=TSE?

I don't quite get that reference, but i'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you mean:

Asheme/Deathblade/Blankspace/KingDan = TSE?

Gart = first and foremost who are you to call anyone a sleazebag with all the crappy stunts you have pulled

and as far as some of the defenses plays that i have created = if anyone cant understand the philosophy of overloading a side must not have ever played football in their life or know anything about defensive plays, the play that Gart is crying about is an overload play that i thought of with the concept of bringing more people that can be blocked, but the MLB has been unblocked at times and runs over the HB at others, i dont see how this is sleazy I havent been commenting much bc i have been trying to make my team better, if some of the more respectable users think this is cheating then i may stop using it but Gart is not respectable in my eyes

Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by kalkmanc

i guess teams could just run 100% and not worry about exploit pass blitzes

which is grrrrrrrrrrreat for winning WL

Thanks Tony the Tiger

and for him crying and saying it forced 4 ints.Originally posted by Gart888
also RNG'd their way to 4 picks, and couldn't stop the pain. lol

do these picks look like that play was run on them, lets you know what a liar this guy is
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8717121 = great blitz here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8718144 = rolb did blitz but was picked up by hb
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8718557 = another great blitz, we did blitz from the outside that didnt get enough pressure
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8721514 = another great blitz

Kanaan, I'm with you where you are coming from. I can't say whether you were trying to exploit anything or not cause I'm not in your head! The only problem I see with the argument is this:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8714573

You lineup the NT, DT, MLB and LE (and the ROLB, sort of but he never even engages into the play, so I won't count him) against the C, LG, LT and ultimately the HB since he stayed in (and didn't do his job). This WOULD be a very good overload argument, especially had the ROLB had a chance to get into the action. However, since you dropped the NT into coverage, you essentially took that overload away. Now, what it LOOKS like is you took advantage of the "somewhat documented and fairly well know" poor blocking code of the LG...who in this case ignored the blitzing MLB in favor of double teaming the DT with the C...in real life..real football, that play would NEVER work, it only works with the broken code.

Now with all that said, maybe you got lucky with an inventive play call and didn't know about the broken code, but with as much messaging has been going around, it looked like it was intentional. And in my personal opinion, seeing as you didn't cover WR3 (except with a small zone), you completely expected that play to get a sack everytime, since you ran it a ton on 3rd down...just my opinion Either way, if you say you didn't dod it as an exploit, I can do nothing but believe you...besides EE for life

Originally posted by boomer82
p much everyone in the WL when Singapore Marauders were lolscreening their way to victories.

Edit: Not a blitz but more or less the same thing so far as caring/admitting etc.

victories, it was one win, singular, victory. english lesson over.

Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by joemiken

Gart=TSE?

I don't quite get that reference, but i'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you mean:

Asheme/Deathblade/Blankspace/KingDan = TSE?

TSE refused to play the game competitively because he believed 55 man rosters were too big. He said it wasn't realistic at all and acted like he was taking the higher ground by not filling out the rest of his roster. He'd say he played with the utmost integrity rather than falling to the level of those who use 55 man rosters, and often used this as an excuse as to why he didn't win .

Only blitz I would consider an exploit: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=979871&pbp_id=8714573

And it seems they barely ran it/ran it for the first time so likely did not know that would occur either. Calling them out for "exploit blitz mania" is lol @ best.

Anyhow, they are only doing it to fix the sim, amirite?

OK fine I'll break my WL silence just for this

I think mwoods has given the best critical breakdown of this, and all the namecalling and finger pointing is rather 3rd grade.

It does look like Stewart was purposely trying to exploit the crappy blocking logic, and in my unbiased opinion, it's probably because they knew they couldn't compete with Hali straight up. The fact that they pulled out these stunts shows that... hey.. at least they care and tried to do SOMETHING to win the game. Blitzing itself is obviously not exploitative, but when Bort cannot for the life of him cannot code Guards to block the right man, then these things turn into exploit arguments.

I just posted in one of my private forums that I think WL has been good for the game, because it created an unfriendly, hostile, e-peen environment for everyone to sword fight with each other. If there had been WL since Day 1, then it would have helped Bort write better code. It took so long for the best of the best to congregate in a common area, and now that WL is here, it forces Bort to look at things that would have been overlooked without WL's existence.

WL competition forces great minds to out-trick each other. And the more sim tricks that are revealed, the better it is for GLB's future... IMHO.

There are definitely fewer exploit/bug/crap than when WL was initiated, so that's a good thing. The game should be about builds, tactics, and strategies, not about finding flaws in the code.

Maybe by season 20?