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Originally posted by ijg

I think CV's new name should be Coach Bowden. Just like Bobby Bowden, he once upon a time built a great program, got a big time recruiting advantage from it that allowed him to get lazy, and is now behind the times.


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I understand feeling miffed when somebody disses your team, but a statement like this begs to be proven on the field.


What's to prove?

1. We started completely off the grid. Some even said we wouldn't stay in USAPL after one season. MEM is good and as always been good. No doubt about it. In that same time frame, we went from 0 to "hero" sort to speak. Which means we have been working our asses off to improve and to prove people like CV wrong.

Our bar was been going up and up while MEM's is holding steady. Correct me if I'm wrong but MEM doesn't start game planning until playoffs correct and everything else is just lolscrim or lolseason. There's your prove right there. We have been outworking MEM and it shows.

2. MEM had a chance to meet up but lost to Drinkin. Which I didn't expect at all. Not to mention that with the whole traveling trophy controversy, wasn't it said that MEM would have turned down a challenge if they were asked because MEM wants to focus on the WL schedule. And again, everything else is just lolscrim?

To me, how are we going to prove it on the field if A) you lost in the set up game B) you view everything outside of WL as not important. Especially if you lose.

This isn't a shot at MEM as a team. Great group of agents. But CV just has something against Nashville as a whole. And has gone out of his way to prove it time and time again.

Edited by mocfam10 on Sep 3, 2009 08:52:01
 
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Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Originally posted by ijg


I think CV's new name should be Coach Bowden. Just like Bobby Bowden, he once upon a time built a great program, got a big time recruiting advantage from it that allowed him to get lazy, and is now behind the times.


ouch


Tell me about it. I'm going to let him have it on the team forums for dissing my coach and team like that.
 
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Losing to drinkin hurts. They've lost to an 0-5 and 0-6 WL team this season. Not exactly a powerhouse anymore although still solid
 
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Originally posted by chronoaug
Losing to drinkin hurts. They've lost to an 0-5 and 0-6 WL team this season. Not exactly a powerhouse anymore although still solid


I see less holes scouting them than I did Drygerian and OTRRD

edit: Shit! I just admitted I scouting an lolscrim. I'm fail.
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Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by ijg

When was the last time you were right about anything having to do with the Hounds? Got demoted last season? Fail. Wouldn't make the playoffs after we moved into the playoff race midseason? Fail. Not one of the elite teams in USA this season? Fail. Please pick us to lose in the 1st round of the playoffs. Please? I'm begging here.

I think CV's new name should be Coach Bowden. Just like Bobby Bowden, he once upon a time built a great program, got a big time recruiting advantage from it that allowed him to get lazy, and is now behind the times.

The Hounds have outworked MEM and are now a better team even with less talent. It's only going to get worse for you once the s1 players are gone and we're all on the same level.


I understand feeling miffed when somebody disses your team, but a statement like this begs to be proven on the field.


Look, I wouldn't have to respond to any of this if CV didn't feel the need to randomly jump into threads and make them about the Hounds. I didn't instigate any of this. Just responded. Same with the one on the main forum. I'll desist when he decides to obey the "beware of dog" sign. Until then, he's going to keep getting his leg bit.
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
What's to prove?

1. We started completely off the grid. Some even said we wouldn't stay in USAPL after one season. MEM is good and as always been good. No doubt about it. In that same time frame, we went from 0 to "hero" sort to speak. Which means we have been working our asses off to improve and to prove people like CV wrong.

Our bar was been going up and up while MEM's is holding steady. Correct me if I'm wrong but MEM doesn't start game planning until playoffs correct and everything else is just lolscrim or lolseason. There's your prove right there. We have been outworking MEM and it shows.

2. MEM had a chance to meet up but lost to Drinkin. Which I didn't expect at all. Not to mention that with the whole traveling trophy controversy, wasn't it said that MEM would have turned down a challenge if they were asked because MEM wants to focus on the WL schedule. And again, everything else is just lolscrim?

To me, how are we going to prove it on the field if A) you lost in the set up game B) you view everything outside of WL as not important. Especially if you lose.

This isn't a shot at MEM as a team. Great group of agents. But CV just has something against Nashville as a whole. And has gone out of his way to prove it time and time again.



Let me first say that I am a GM of Monmouth but I'm not a particularly important one - I accepted it because I consider CV a friend and I still think it's a good team to be associated with, but I don't necessarily spout the party line on everything he says. In fact I'm the OC of a team in their conference (as of about 5 days ago when I came back to GLB from a 4 month absence).

Saying you've outworked MEM is one thing - declaring yourselves the better team unilaterally is another. MEM did get surprised by Drinkin, and yall are having a great season - but if you ask me if you want to run around saying you're better than they are you don't hide behind "well if we play you'll have an excuse if you lose" - you play, beat them, and let them make excuses.
Edited by rj414 on Sep 3, 2009 09:09:20
Edited by rj414 on Sep 3, 2009 09:08:07
 
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Originally posted by rj414


Saying you've outworked MEM is one thing - declaring yourselves the better team unilaterally is another. MEM did get surprised by Drinkin, and yall are having a great season - but if you ask me if you want to run around saying you're better than they are you don't hide behind "well if we play you'll have an excuse if you lose" - you play, beat them, and let them make excuses.


We're not hiding behind anything. CV is the one hiding behind "we don't take scrims srsly, so we lost to Drinkin and won't get to play you guys". He had the chance to get it done and he failed.

Anyway, it's ironic you would think we shouldn't declare ourselves the better team when the whole reason we have an issue with CV is he spent the last two seasons constantly making declarative statements about how much we suck and refused to admit he was wrong when the facts proved him so. Then, he did it again just the other day in the main forum thread he started about s2 dots that somehow morphed into the Hounds are overrated.

If CV would have just put his tail between his legs and said "sorry, I doubted you guys. You're a lot better than I thought you were", you wouldn't have heard another word from us. He has brought this all on himself.

I'm not saying he is a bad guy or anything, but he clearly is an elitist about who "deserves" to be considered a top team and can't deal with the fact that new blood has come along and upset his view of who should be allowed in the top tier of GLB. Sorry, but if he doesn't like it, he should have worked harder to beat Drinkin and then teach us a lesson. Otherwise, he has to get used to the fact that GLB doesn't revolve around him and that his opinion of who is better than whom is worth no more than anyone else's opinion.

For now, the Hounds have passed him and he can sniff our ass like all the other beta males. If he wants to change that, he better work harder rather than rest on his laurels.

PS: I'm not even saying we are for sure the better team, though I think we've made a very strong case. Just that we deserve to be higher in the lolrankings atm.
 
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Originally posted by rj414


Saying you've outworked MEM is one thing - declaring yourselves the better team unilaterally is another. MEM did get surprised by Drinkin, and yall are having a great season - but if you ask me if you want to run around saying you're better than they are you don't hide behind "well if we play you'll have an excuse if you lose" - you play, beat them, and let them make excuses.


You realize that the majority of elite teams are doing that and have been going that for 3 seasons now. CV included. When we lose, we admit it and move forward. When WW and MEM kicked us in the teeth last year, we didn't make excuses. We just kept working at getting better.

But when MEM loses, it's ALWAYS an excuse from CV. Again, it isn't the entire MEM team, I get that. And I never said it was. As a matter of fact, I've always said you all are a great group of agents. But the facts don't lie. MEM loses, and CV's first reaction is that there is a glitch or abuse or lolscrim or whatever. ALWAYS an excuse.

No one's hiding behind an excuse. We would have rather played you instead of Drinkin. The outcome is pre-determined based on history. MEM wins ("There was lolscrim yesterday? Really?") MEM loses ("lolscrim, bug, abuse, basic") Everyone in GLB knows that if MEM loses, the excuse database is working at full tilt that day because of CV. And CV is not a bad person at all.

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UNTIL he loses or is proven wrong. He just goes into some alternative universe or something. Makes no sense. I understand being an elitest and all, but geez. There has to be an end to the Hound bashing right?
Edited by mocfam10 on Sep 3, 2009 09:53:01
Edited by mocfam10 on Sep 3, 2009 09:49:07
 
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Originally posted by wsdp
Originally posted by chronoaug

Losing to drinkin hurts. They've lost to an 0-5 and 0-6 WL team this season. Not exactly a powerhouse anymore although still solid


I see less holes scouting them than I did Drygerian and OTRRD

edit: Shit! I just admitted I scouting an lolscrim. I'm fail.


To be fair, when you scouted Drygerian we had a guy DCing who had DCd for a grand total of 7 non pee-wee games ever. He did a good job given his amount of experience with high level dots, but if you couldn't find holes in that defense he'd still be our DC >_>.

If hounds are interested in a friendly rematch around week 15 or 16, i'm more than game.
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Again, it isn't the entire MEM team, I get that. And I never said it was. As a matter of fact, I've always said you all are a great group of agents. But the facts don't lie. MEM loses, and CV's first reaction is that there is a glitch or abuse or lolscrim or whatever. ALWAYS an excuse.


IME, jfbueno is the worst excuse maker on that team, not CV. CV isn't nearly as bad an owners like Gart who ride the "we win and it counts, we lose and it doesn't" train
 
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Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Originally posted by mocfam10

Again, it isn't the entire MEM team, I get that. And I never said it was. As a matter of fact, I've always said you all are a great group of agents. But the facts don't lie. MEM loses, and CV's first reaction is that there is a glitch or abuse or lolscrim or whatever. ALWAYS an excuse.


IME, jfbueno is the worst excuse maker on that team, not CV. CV isn't nearly as bad an owners like Gart who ride the "we win and it counts, we lose and it doesn't" train


you got me there....no issues with this. I stand corrected.

 
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you got me there....no issues with this. I stand corrected.



That's just my experience though
 
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I don't even know what lolscrim means. What does a statement like "we got lolscimed" mean?
 
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Originally posted by phthalatemagic
Originally posted by mocfam10

Again, it isn't the entire MEM team, I get that. And I never said it was. As a matter of fact, I've always said you all are a great group of agents. But the facts don't lie. MEM loses, and CV's first reaction is that there is a glitch or abuse or lolscrim or whatever. ALWAYS an excuse.


IME, jfbueno is the worst excuse maker on that team, not CV.


You beat me too it, though you also forgot jrry and drago starting bitch threads in the forum everytime someone beats them with the screen.

Hey, maybe that's why MEM lost to Drinkin? They knew they couldn't handle our screen and CV would rather take a loss to Stobie than those lowbrow Hounds. Amirite?
 
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