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mocfam10
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Originally posted by islander1
Originally posted by jrry32

Oh yea, people know MJD has a terrible build and still can't stop him.


X-Factor tbh



It exists and MJD definitely has it. I have no problems agreeing with this post.
Edited by mocfam10 on Aug 11, 2009 07:10:45
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Your use of stats is terrible and any person with sense can see that you are purposefully picking out certain games to prove your point. That's not how stats work. Only to gullible people will picking out certain points will be accepted as the whole truth. Failure. If you're going to compare two HBs yardage, you should be comparing common opponents. Which I believe would be 14 games last season. Did MJD play OTR? No. Did Earl play Nashville? Impossible. How 'bout you stop purposefully manipulating a complete set of stats to serve your agenda. Please...

Earl is no scat back I assure you. He went from winning the rushing title in Season 9 to winning the receiving title in Season 10. I think you underestimate his ability. No one is underestimating MJD. Everyone knows what he can do. You've seen one season if Earl and automatically assume you know everything there is to know about him.

Jump to conclusions much? Sounds vaguely familiar...


We'll stick to our offensive game plan so you can save the "prove it" that was probably coming next.


No, I picked out the game vs. top USA Pro teams...the OTR game probably shouldn't be used since we played Washington in our interconference game but the point is that Earl did nothing vs. the top Wes teams during the regular season on the ground.
 
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Originally posted by ijg
Originally posted by jrry32


This is a thread about RBs, not scat RBs(WRs). Maddox isn't in MJD's or Street's league when it comes to rushing


wat? Since when do you get to decide what is allowed in a thread? I don't see mod under your name.

Srsly, jrry, why are you so bent out of shape? I was just having a little fun throwing Earl's name in the mix and you get your panties all in a bunch. What's the big honking deal? We can both find favorable stats to argue either way. That's why it's called a debate. Ironic how if wsdp or mocfam was complaining the way you are, we would have had all the haters jumping on us for "whining again" but when you do it, it's somehow acceptable???

Maybe I should start an Earl vs Street thread, so I can have a vanity thread too??? But then again, I don't care that much. Neither does @ftermath who hasn't even posted in this thread. It's just not that big a deal. Relax, man. Nobody is denying MJD is good. You don't need to keep stroking your e-peen over it. Let it go, or at least be civil if you want to argue for him without having to tear down others.


I'm actually not upset at all and do I need to be a mod to tell you what was said in my OP? Here is a quote from the OP:
Originally posted by jrry32
Over the last 2 seasons, these guys have been 2 of the West's most dominant RB and it looks likely this season that these 2 will be battling it out for the West rushing title. Will be fun to see, MJD has the X Factor on his side while George Street has the great build factor on his side. West teams watch out because these 2 balanced RBs are deadly if you allow them to break a tackle or two and hit open field!


If that didn't key you in that this was about rushers, not receivers then I don't know what can. Also I was setting you up for that this entire time, I wanted you to quote Earl's ypc to point out that he did nothing vs. the best of the West on the ground, so thank you. I'm a dick...I can accept that. And I'm allowed to "whine" because I'm awesome.

EDIT: People also were complaining about the lack of trash talking...problem solved.
Edited by jrry32 on Aug 11, 2009 13:49:09
Edited by jrry32 on Aug 11, 2009 13:48:14
 
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So MJD is a part-time player? And only plays hard in 5 games a year?
 
Galkuris
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Originally posted by mocfam10
So MJD is a part-time player? And only plays hard in 5 games a year?


MJD = consistent no matter who the opponent. Earl = big games rushing against the worst teams.

Maybe you don't realize it but players get judged more on what they do against the best opponents and in the big games then they do against the non-playoff teams. This applies to GLB, NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, Soccer, and every college sport.

Who gives a crap if you run for an average of 20+ against the worst of your conference? The rest of your teammates could have won that game alone.

**That is the point jrry is trying to make. Really doesn't seem like a hard concept to grasp.
 
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Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by mocfam10

So MJD is a part-time player? And only plays hard in 5 games a year?


MJD = consistent no matter who the opponent. Earl = big games rushing against the worst teams.

Maybe you don't realize it but players get judged more on what they do against the best opponents and in the big games then they do against the non-playoff teams. This applies to GLB, NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, Soccer, and every college sport.

Who gives a crap if you run for an average of 20+ against the worst of your conference? The rest of your teammates could have won that game alone.

**That is the point jrry is trying to make. Really doesn't seem like a hard concept to grasp.


Fuck Jrry IMO
 
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George Street > The Scrubs mentioned
 
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Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by mocfam10

So MJD is a part-time player? And only plays hard in 5 games a year?


MJD = consistent no matter who the opponent. Earl = big games rushing against the worst teams.

Maybe you don't realize it but players get judged more on what they do against the best opponents and in the big games then they do against the non-playoff teams. This applies to GLB, NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, Soccer, and every college sport.

Who gives a crap if you run for an average of 20+ against the worst of your conference? The rest of your teammates could have won that game alone.

**That is the point jrry is trying to make. Really doesn't seem like a hard concept to grasp.


wow, jrry talk about walking into one...you need to give your boss a heads up before laying a trap for him!

Hounds-MM playoff game: Earl 15.9 ypc running, 13.9 ypc receiving. Earl had more yards on 4 carries than MJD on 13. So much for showing up in the big game.
 
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Originally posted by ijg
Hounds-MM playoff game: Earl 15.9 ypc running, 13.9 ypc receiving. Earl had more yards on 4 carries than MJD on 13. So much for showing up in the big game.

Oh... that stings...
 
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Originally posted by ijg
wow, jrry talk about walking into one...you need to give your boss a heads up before laying a trap for him!

Hounds-MM playoff game: Earl 15.9 ypc running, 13.9 ypc receiving. Earl had more yards on 4 carries than MJD on 13. So much for showing up in the big game.


Score?
 
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Originally posted by wsdp
Originally posted by ijg

Hounds-MM playoff game: Earl 15.9 ypc running, 13.9 ypc receiving. Earl had more yards on 4 carries than MJD on 13. So much for showing up in the big game.

Oh... that stings...
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I seem to be forgetting something, can you refresh my memory...who won that game?
 
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Originally posted by DrunkenCowboy
Originally posted by Galkuris

Originally posted by mocfam10


So MJD is a part-time player? And only plays hard in 5 games a year?


MJD = consistent no matter who the opponent. Earl = big games rushing against the worst teams.

Maybe you don't realize it but players get judged more on what they do against the best opponents and in the big games then they do against the non-playoff teams. This applies to GLB, NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, Soccer, and every college sport.

Who gives a crap if you run for an average of 20+ against the worst of your conference? The rest of your teammates could have won that game alone.

**That is the point jrry is trying to make. Really doesn't seem like a hard concept to grasp.


Fuck Jrry IMO


You still mad about the Brokeback Mountain Cowboy comment?
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
I seem to be forgetting something, can you refresh my memory...who won that game?


use your own advice and stick to the topic at hand. this has nothing to do with the team. It's about the individual. Or did you forget your own post? Apparently, this applies to everyone but you.

Originally posted by jrry32
No more off topic, this thread is about MJD and George Street the 2 West Premier RBs...not Von Stein, Maddox or anyone else!


Let's see...first it was about players...now it's about who won the game? Which is it. You keep trying to hit a moving target apparently. Pick one and go with it. Either someone shows up in big games or they don't. The only "big" game they both played in at the same time, Earl did a lot better than MJD....rushing. Something MJD is supposedly better at. Explain that one. Was this one of the games MJD took off?



Edited by mocfam10 on Aug 11, 2009 19:03:03
Edited by mocfam10 on Aug 11, 2009 18:58:19
 
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Originally posted by mocfam10
Let's see...first it was about players...now it's about who won the game? Which is it. You keep trying to hit a moving target apparently. Pick one and go with it. Either someone shows up in big games or they don't. The only "big" game they both played in at the same time, Earl did a lot better than MJD....rushing. Something MJD is supposedly better at. Explain that one. Was this one of the games you took off?



Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, if you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.
 
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Originally posted by Galkuris
Honestly this debate is stupid. Comparing the two doesn't work.

MJD = fewer big plays but also few "failed" plays.

Earl = big play threat that often gets stuffed for nothing.


Every offense needs the first, you don't have it you will not win a championship. Vice versa most offenses need the second as well. The trick is balancing them.


I don't really have to reference the team page now do I? The point is that he purposefully manipulated stats to try and prove a point by only noting a few games, subjectively. Then he goes against his own word and says "Who won the game" When apparently, this was an individual conversation.

Then he went on to say earl was a scat back when he isn't. But because of the lack of concert proof, he assume's Earl is based off of how we used him. Discounting every earl has done up to Season 10. But I see your point.
Edited by mocfam10 on Aug 11, 2009 19:07:57
 
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