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the vision check is good with low vision but after vision gets up and you fire off the first tick anyways its useless
 
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62 vision/6 JTS is working fine for my DE.
 
ssyuber
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Originally posted by BigMike497
Jump the Snap. What's the Verdict on it? Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?


Someone did a study 10 FS and 67 vision only got 61% first tick in scrimmages this season,
when they added 15 JTS 91% first tick
Edited by ssyuber on Aug 22, 2009 18:45:09
 
CoachCoughlin
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seems to work better this season.
 
Bukowski
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I've never seen the results.
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Bukowski
I've never seen the results.


I'm still waiting

links or it didn't happen.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
I'm still waiting

links or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by OMGWTF
THE RESULTS:

First off, I've got to give some credit to Deathblade because without the "speed script" none of us would be able to see concrete evidence of our player's snap reaction time.

The Player: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=566691
• 67 vision
• 10 FS

Game 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697282
- NO JtS
- 1 Encroachment
- 58% of snaps on first tick

Game 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697279
- NO JtS
- More 1st tick misses as game progressed
- 49% of snaps on first tick

Game 3: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697292
- 15 JtS
- 91% of snaps on first tick

Game 4: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697289
- 15 JtS
- Why am I still compiling data?
- 81% of snaps on first tick

So halfway through the first game with +15 JtS it was painfully obvious that it has a significant effect, even with a player who has high vision.



 
jmikles
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THUMBS UP!! To the OP.
 
Bayemon
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
I'm still waiting

links or it didn't happen.


K, dont take it then... but youre missing out.
 
ssyuber
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Originally posted by Kayoh
Originally posted by UnderDogs

I'm still waiting

links or it didn't happen.

Originally posted by OMGWTF

THE RESULTS:

First off, I've got to give some credit to Deathblade because without the "speed script" none of us would be able to see concrete evidence of our player's snap reaction time.

The Player: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=566691
• 67 vision
• 10 FS

Game 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697282
- NO JtS
- 1 Encroachment
- 58% of snaps on first tick

Game 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697279
- NO JtS
- More 1st tick misses as game progressed
- 49% of snaps on first tick

Game 3: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697292
- 15 JtS
- 91% of snaps on first tick

Game 4: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=697289
- 15 JtS
- Why am I still compiling data?
- 81% of snaps on first tick

So halfway through the first game with +15 JtS it was painfully obvious that it has a significant effect, even with a player who has high vision.





Thats the one I saw.
 
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Originally posted by Bayemon
K, dont take it then... but youre missing out.


zero JTS, zero Heavyweight in the EEPRO league, not missing much.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=506504
 
Bayemon
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Originally posted by Madd_Maxx
zero JTS, zero Heavyweight in the EEPRO league, not missing much.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=506504


Ya, so hows he built? What competition has he faced? What VAs do you have then? Rhetorical, I dont expect you to actually tell me and I am not really caring about it...

Obviously you are putting up the numbers whatever you have. you may not need either of those. Just saying that what I have seen out of them say they are good... almost must haves for most builds. Heck, you might even be better with them. Then again, I wouldnt change what youre doing either so far
Edited by Bayemon on Aug 25, 2009 13:15:07
 
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I love how someone thinks they have "studied" JTS with 4 games.

No stop compiling Data. JTS is awesome. Which is why I didn't keep it after using it a whole season, and coming to the conclusion that there are a lot of things better than JTS.

I am trying out streaky this season at 15. I can tell you all that I want streaky before JTS even.

I want heavyweight Quick, Streaky, even power tackler before JTS. And a couple of others I refuse to name off here...
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 25, 2009 21:39:28
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 25, 2009 21:39:03
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 25, 2009 21:38:17
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
I love how someone thinks they have "studied" JTS with 4 games.

No stop compiling Data. JTS is awesome. Which is why I didn't keep it after using it a whole season, and coming to the conclusion that there are a lot of things better than JTS.

I am trying out streaky this season at 15. I can tell you all that I want streaky before JTS even.

I want heavyweight Quick, Streaky, even power tackler before JTS. And a couple of others I refuse to name off here...

Just an FYI, I'm about 99% sure Bort stealth buffed JTS by making it more difficult to pass the check without it THIS SEASON. So if you went all through last season without it, it doesn't apply.
 
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Originally posted by Kayoh

Just an FYI, I'm about 99% sure Bort stealth buffed JTS by making it more difficult to pass the check without it THIS SEASON. So if you went all through last season without it, it doesn't apply.


no wonder my DE felt slower this season (wiht a slower first step)
 
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