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Originally posted by RaiderSGA
TSE ,

I see your up to your old tricks.

Heres an idea for a new guide. You can do a "How to win friends and influence people" guide... lol

+1 for CV

I'm pretty good at making friends in general. I do not have my #1 priority set towards making friends on GLB, if I was then I wouldn't be playing in these shitstorms with these mental midgets and dishonorable people. Getting egg on my face for having these kind of convos was never done with the intention of making myself look good, I'm not in these talks on account of having my ego's best interest in mind. Otherwise I would play the silent professional and polite routine and gain respect and admiration for that. It's just a matter of protecting my personal principles by not letting the wrongdoers get away with all this BS without taking flak, I'm not going to let the bad guy get away clean.

If that causes people to hate me in the game, which it does, and I know it does, then so be it. That's not important to me in the bigger picture of taking down the bad guys. I don't require admiration from others to feel a high self worth, I just want to stand up for honor and integrity as principles regardless if I am RUDE in that process or ANNOYING, which I accept that I have been. I didn't ask for this role, I was pigeon-holed into it, such as life.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by PP

I have no clue what went on between TSE & Manning. Quite honestly, even if both are trying to be 100% honest, no one does. Personal bias always applies to situations you're involved with to some extent or another. My wife is one of the most honest ppl I know, but, when we argue about something, both of our versions of how the argument went are so different that you'd never believe we were both honestly attempting to describe what happened in the same argument.

What I can say is that I flat out loved having Manning on GB. He was always 100% straight with me on everything and a perfect model of what an agent should be. I was proud as hell to have him on my team and would do it all over again without hesitation. Flat out one of my favorite agents of all time, very intelligent, an all around great kid with a solid as hell head on his shoulders. I'd go to war with him any day and never worry about my back being left unguarded.

In the trade for Manning, I gave TSE a big ass bunch of my dots. In fairness to TSE, he was always cool to them and, in every interaction I ever had with him regarding my dots or those I saw him have with others, was always extremely decent. TSE doesn't often do himself any favors with what he says in forums, but I never had any issues with him as an owner at all. Actually, I couldn't have been treated better. He tends to see things a little different than most. Wouldn't be surprised if all of this really wasn't much different than an argument with my wife where we both honestly believe it went differently than the other does.


Yeah but see there's no reason for you to not love Manning. His players are high level well built players and he had a major shitstorm on my team. The last thing Manning would want to do is have a shitstorm with you to make him look bad. The best way in his mind that he can MAKE me look bad is by being as awesome as he possibly can, to indirectly discredit me. It would be a terrible opportunity for him to blow by not having his relationship with you go as perfectly as humanly possible to strengthen his perceived image.


Damn it, TSE...I just gift wrapped an out for you. Why the fuck didn't you take it and walk away with your head up?!

Part of it had to do with his actions on GB, but 90% of my comments about Manning being such a great, 100% 1st class kid had absolutely, positively nothing to do with dot ball in the least. All of the longest conversations I had with him were about life, not dot ball. I won't share any of them with you or anyone else, because they were mostly to do with his life, but I respect that kid a ton. I guess the best compliment I can possibly give anyone in this game I'm about to give him. I can only hope that my sons turn into the man he's becoming. He's damn good ppl and I respect him. Maybe he was worried for, oh, 3 seconds what I'd think of him when he 1st started on GB, but I don't buy for even the slightest of seconds that it was all an act just to make you look bad.

His WR went from being a focal point of your O to all but being ignored n GB (not because of his skills, hell of a dot, but because of my style on O)...Not 1 complaint...EVER. I gave him 2-3 chances to leave. Hell, when he 1st came to GB, he told me up front I could keep his LB as long as I wanted, but that the next ssn his WR & DE were going to leave. He resigned because he knew I needed them, and resigned again for the same reasons.

For God's sake, man, this is freakin dot ball. Trust me, he (and everyone else here) has a hell of a lot more important things on his plate in RL than to spend time worrying about how he make you look. There are parts of you that I actually think are decent, but get the fuck over yourself already! The world doesn't revolve around you, me or anyone else. I know you try extremely hard to portray an image, but, sorry for being so blunt, you make yourself look like the biggest ass on GLB by being so egocentric. I'm saying that for your own good, since you were cool with me. Take it for what it's worth.

Originally posted by PP

The world doesn't revolve around you, me or anyone else.


The world does revolve around me. Or more accurately, my wang. You think the tides are from the pull of the moon?! That is ALL PELVIC THRUST BABY!

PP ----

I don't know why you are delving into MH so much. I'm not disputing anything you are saying about how you get along with MH. Your business with MH is separate from mine. There all kinds of examples of people who had falling outs with others in the game and they have joined my team and from my perspective I don't know anything about their previous situation nor do I have the time to investigate, but just because two people can't get along, doesn't mean that those people can't get along with other new people in the future!

I don't think MH joined my team in the beginning with intentions of having things go sour, it would make more sense that he would expect and intend for things to go well. I don't think he woke up one day and turned into an evil person. That's not why we didn't get along. In my opinion he made a mistake and said the wrong things to me and to people on the Monkeys that he shouldn't have said, and then instead of trying to fix the mistake by acknowledging it, he CHOSE for whatever reason to try and save face and act like he didn't make a mistake and that his mistake was mine! Thus we have a falling out, he starts over with you, again expecting good intentions, and this time he didn't make a mistake and everything was honky dory. Nothing surprising about that to me! I don't know why you are making a big case out of this, where are you finding offense in what I have to say.

ALL I"M SAYING, is from my experience he was NOT a good guy, so he was good to you, congratulations! So what. So he treated you well and me like shit. That's a fact, and that's all I'm saying. I'm not trying to rain on your parade with your relationship with him, obviously things went well and are still going well, ok, great! But what does that have to do with me and my bad experience with him? That's HIS FAULT, not mine, not yours, and thus you giving me grief about it is irrelevant cause you are not involved in the MH and TSE relationship. That's a SEPARATE issue from your dealings, and a relationship that he fucked up. End of story. So I dont even know what you are talking about in offering me an "out", an "out" for what? What are you getting at?

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
So I dont even know what you are talking about in offering me an "out", an "out" for what? What are you getting at?



He offered you the chance to say "maybe it was a misunderstanding" and then just let it go. Whether you think it was or not, in my experience you are often better off saying that and moving on.

It wasn't a misunderstanding on my end, I know what I said and what I did and then shit got thrown in my face. Nothing to misunderstand. And as soon as shit was covered on my face, MH sure as hell didn't try to suggest a misunderstanding nor did any of the Monkeys. They just went crazy and raped me. Nothing was ever discussed logically and nobody on the Monkeys EVEN ONCE asked what happened before they passed judgment on me. They Obama'd me and labeled me as "acting stupidly" despite being "biased" and "not having all the facts."

Therefore, MH, CV, and the MEM GMs that participated = a bunch of pieces of shit. They made their own beds, a bed of shit throwing and without cause.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Yeah but see there's no reason for you to not love Manning. His players are high level well built players and he had a major shitstorm on my team. The last thing Manning would want to do is have a shitstorm with you to make him look bad. The best way in his mind that he can MAKE me look bad is by being as awesome as he possibly can, to indirectly discredit me. It would be a terrible opportunity for him to blow by not having his relationship with you go as perfectly as humanly possible to strengthen his perceived image.


Let me get this right. This guy built great dotball players and got along swimmingly with PP just to make you look bad.

Only one making you look bad in this thread is you.

Originally posted by kurieg



Let me get this right. This guy built great dotball players and got along swimmingly with PP just to make you look bad.

Only one making you look bad in this thread is you.

No that is totally not what I said. You didn't read clearly. Thus, now you look bad for claiming I look bad because of your miscue. See how this works? I use intelligence and logic at all times and denounce those that don't and then try to use their garbage to counter my valid points.

Originally posted by
The best way in his mind that he can MAKE me look bad is by being as awesome as he possibly can, to indirectly discredit me.

No, seriously, you're just dumb.

Originally posted by kurieg
Originally posted by

The best way in his mind that he can MAKE me look bad is by being as awesome as he possibly can, to indirectly discredit me.

No, seriously, you're just dumb.

Wrong. I'm a certified genius. And I doubt that you are.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by Sik Wit It



The fact that you are making a huge false assumption by saying anyone who agrees with CV is either an idiot, illogical, or someone who makes false assumptions. Do you not see that?

You are failing on this issue because you miss out on the logic. I know firsthand that I am telling the truth. Forget what you think for now, what you think does not affect the actual events as they played out. I know how the events played out and I know I'm telling the truth. Therefore anybody that sides with CV is siding with misinformation and accepting lies and mistruths as facts. Anybody that accepts lies and mistruths in forming an opinion without checking their facts is a moron, that's just a fact of nature.

No I think you are missing the logic here. Many people don't even know why you and CV hate each other. Some recruiting thing where he talked crap on your team in some topic. BIG DEAL. What I'm saying is most people do not care. And the fact that they "side" with CV has nothing to do with your little situation. Like PP said, the world doesn't revolve around you. Many people like CV because he's very personable, and does a lot for the USA Pro forum. It has nothing to do with "siding with misinformation". Like I said I don't even care what went on between you two, so it has no bearing on whether or not I see him as a "lying scumbag POS". Nobody can really know what happens except you and Manning, so there's no reason I can form an opinion one way or another.

Both of you seem like pretty reasonable people, and I haven't witnessed either of you lying or cheating the system. So to say the only people who don't think CV is a lying scumbag are "mental midgets (lol), illogical people, or people who make false assumptions" is in itself a huge false assumption. That false assumption being that people actually CARE about what went on between you and they base their opinion on both agents upon those events.

And before you say "well you just need to do more research into what happened to get the facts straight", really think about what you're saying. To say we can get the facts by "researching more" is laughable, because it's just your word against his. Like I said, I'll probably never know the real facts, so it's futile (thought you'd like this choice in words).

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by kurieg

Originally posted by


The best way in his mind that he can MAKE me look bad is by being as awesome as he possibly can, to indirectly discredit me.

No, seriously, you're just dumb.

Wrong. I'm a certified genius. And I doubt that you are.

When is that going to carry over into your posting? 90% of your stuff here is claiming over and over that you're honest and a genius, while simultaneously writing mountains of gibberish.

Is that your proof?

Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

Originally posted by Sik Wit It




The fact that you are making a huge false assumption by saying anyone who agrees with CV is either an idiot, illogical, or someone who makes false assumptions. Do you not see that?

You are failing on this issue because you miss out on the logic. I know firsthand that I am telling the truth. Forget what you think for now, what you think does not affect the actual events as they played out. I know how the events played out and I know I'm telling the truth. Therefore anybody that sides with CV is siding with misinformation and accepting lies and mistruths as facts. Anybody that accepts lies and mistruths in forming an opinion without checking their facts is a moron, that's just a fact of nature.

No I think you are missing the logic here. Many people don't even know why you and CV hate each other. Some recruiting thing where he talked crap on your team in some topic. BIG DEAL. What I'm saying is most people do not care. And the fact that they "side" with CV has nothing to do with your little situation. Like PP said, the world doesn't revolve around you. Many people like CV because he's very personable, and does a lot for the USA Pro forum. It has nothing to do with "siding with misinformation". Like I said I don't even care what went on between you two, so it has no bearing on whether or not I see him as a "lying scumbag POS". Nobody can really know what happens except you and Manning, so there's no reason I can form an opinion one way or another.

Both of you seem like pretty reasonable people, and I haven't witnessed either of you lying or cheating the system. So to say the only people who don't think CV is a lying scumbag are "mental midgets (lol), illogical people, or people who make false assumptions" is in itself a huge false assumption. That false assumption being that people actually CARE about what went on between you and they base their opinion on both agents upon those events.

And before you say "well you just need to do more research into what happened to get the facts straight", really think about what you're saying. To say we can get the facts by "researching more" is laughable, because it's just your word against his. Like I said, I'll probably never know the real facts, so it's futile (thought you'd like this choice in words).

You misinterpreted my post. I said those terms in conjunction with having identified with CV as being correct in his rationale for calling me a liar in that if you agreed with his rationale you have to either ACCEPT LIES and assume they are true in order to follow his logic, therefore those negative qualities are tied into the thought process of which I was eluding to. Not in general that if you like CV you must be those things.

Originally posted by kurieg


Is that your proof?

No, the Easter Bunny said so, how's that for proof? Great, now buzz off.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by kurieg



Is that your proof?

No, the Easter Bunny said so, how's that for proof? Great, now buzz off.


Huh, so you can at least be succinct when offering nothing worth reading.