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Originally posted by crims
So you would have to win back to back championships just to get a sniff? I haven't looked but are there are 32 teams that won back to back? Then if you get in, whats a sub par performance under 500? some teams are going to loose. Lets say there are 5 teams that go under 500. Then you have to find 5 back to back winners to take those teams places? So lets say there are 33 teams that fit the criteria, who gets left out?

crims i think maybe you should re-read the OP a couple times, it sounds like you're not completely understanding the proposal.

If next year is your first season then yes you would need to win back to back championships to get to pro by your team's 3rd season. If you win a championship this season (10), then you are likely to get in pro next season since it will be the first season its run. A sub par performance is the bottom 4 teams from each pro conference, so 8 pro teams (25%) each season will get dropped back down to minors, and the 8 minor (feeder) league champions will get promoted into those 8 pro slots. Brand new teams will likely go into 16 sub-feeder leagues that will probably be riddled with CPU's and slowbuilders not interested in much competition.

It will probably be easy for any semi-serious new team to win a sub feeder league and make it to the feeder league (minors). Winning the Feeder league championship to secure a pro league slot the next season should be significantly more competitive, but only 32 teams will be pro at any one time, so competition is pretty much the whole idea.
 
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Just what he said up there. If you aren't good enough to make it to the top then you are in the league that you should be in and you should be having fun in it anyway.

This is all being suggested so the people that WANT to have competitive seasons can do. It should be easy(ish) enough to win in the bottom leagues, and in fact if you can't win there then you shouldn't be complaining, you should be learning more about the pee wee way of life.

Edited by Darkus Black on Jul 23, 2009 05:03:32
 
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so any final word on this?
 
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Pushing hard. Nothing confirmed but has certainly not been ruled out. Will keep everyone updated on any news I get.
 
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Originally posted by Redwin
Originally posted by crims

So you would have to win back to back championships just to get a sniff? I haven't looked but are there are 32 teams that won back to back? Then if you get in, whats a sub par performance under 500? some teams are going to loose. Lets say there are 5 teams that go under 500. Then you have to find 5 back to back winners to take those teams places? So lets say there are 33 teams that fit the criteria, who gets left out?

crims i think maybe you should re-read the OP a couple times, it sounds like you're not completely understanding the proposal.

If next year is your first season then yes you would need to win back to back championships to get to pro by your team's 3rd season. If you win a championship this season (10), then you are likely to get in pro next season since it will be the first season its run. A sub par performance is the bottom 4 teams from each pro conference, so 8 pro teams (25%) each season will get dropped back down to minors, and the 8 minor (feeder) league champions will get promoted into those 8 pro slots. Brand new teams will likely go into 16 sub-feeder leagues that will probably be riddled with CPU's and slowbuilders not interested in much competition.


OK thanks I think I have a better Idea of what you would like. Thanks for taking the time.

I do you one more question ........ will you be boosting in this Pro league before the playoffs or not at all. I for one would like to see a non boosting Pro league. If you will let teams Boost you should let everyone know before, we are not a team that boosts before the playoffs and not sure if we will at all this year.

It will probably be easy for any semi-serious new team to win a sub feeder league and make it to the feeder league (minors). Winning the Feeder league championship to secure a pro league slot the next season should be significantly more competitive, but only 32 teams will be pro at any one time, so competition is pretty much the whole idea.


Edited by crims on Jul 23, 2009 16:44:16
 
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Originally posted by crims
I do you one more question ........ will you be boosting in this Pro league before the playoffs or not at all. I for one would like to see a non boosting Pro league. If you will let teams Boost you should let everyone know before, we are not a team that boosts before the playoffs and not sure if we will at all this year.

... well, my team won the official peewee tourney this year without any boosting, so its not impossible to be competitive without it... but I'm not gunna lie... no matter how good a team is, its going to be better if its boosted. To be perfectly honest, I would love to see boosting removed from peewee altogether and just have new characters not become boostable until day 41 of their first full season. It would make it cheaper to compete, remove the lame decision of "boost early and peter out late, or lose early and be strong late" that the boosting teams have to make, and probably raise the number of competitive teams overall by a huge margin. However, I am sure people will jump in quickly and say this is not the time or place for that discussion, so I won't say any more on it beyond that

As for the pro league, nothing has been suggested saying that it would have any different boosting rules than any of the other leagues, so its probably safe to assume most teams in that league would in fact be boosting at whatever time they feel gives them the most advantage.

Edited by Redwin on Jul 23, 2009 18:02:41
 
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Originally posted by Redwin

... well, my team won the official peewee tourney this year without any boosting, so its not impossible to be competitive without it... but I'm not gunna lie... no matter how good a team is, its going to be better if its boosted. To be perfectly honest, I would love to see boosting removed from peewee altogether and just have new characters not become boostable until day 41 of their first full season. It would make it cheaper to compete, remove the lame decision of "boost early and peter out late, or lose early and be strong late" that the boosting teams have to make, and probably raise the number of competitive teams overall by a huge margin. However, I am sure people will jump in quickly and say this is not the time or place for that discussion, so I won't say any more on it beyond that


this would promote equality and bort seems to hate that idea. I too would love to see non boosting peewees but its on the ngth list
 
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ALSO, non boosting, means less flex, means less income..............you figure it out.
 
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32 team pro league, replace bottom 8 with champs from 8 feeder leagues each season. Feeder leagues populated with player owned teams that perform well in basic leagues each season. A new team starts in basic leagues, wins and moves up to feeder leagues in second season, wins and goes to pro league by third season.

Seems pretty simple and straight forward. I like it.
 
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Originally posted by Galithor
32 team pro league, replace bottom 8 with champs from 8 feeder leagues each season. Feeder leagues populated with player owned teams that perform well in basic leagues each season. A new team starts in basic leagues, wins and moves up to feeder leagues in second season, wins and goes to pro league by third season.

Seems pretty simple and straight forward. I like it.


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Originally posted by Redwin
Originally posted by crims

I do you one more question ........ will you be boosting in this Pro league before the playoffs or not at all. I for one would like to see a non boosting Pro league. If you will let teams Boost you should let everyone know before, we are not a team that boosts before the playoffs and not sure if we will at all this year.

... well, my team won the official peewee tourney this year without any boosting, so its not impossible to be competitive without it... but I'm not gunna lie... no matter how good a team is, its going to be better if its boosted. To be perfectly honest, I would love to see boosting removed from peewee altogether and just have new characters not become boostable until day 41 of their first full season. It would make it cheaper to compete, remove the lame decision of "boost early and peter out late, or lose early and be strong late" that the boosting teams have to make, and probably raise the number of competitive teams overall by a huge margin. However, I am sure people will jump in quickly and say this is not the time or place for that discussion, so I won't say any more on it beyond that

As for the pro league, nothing has been suggested saying that it would have any different boosting rules than any of the other leagues, so its probably safe to assume most teams in that league would in fact be boosting at whatever time they feel gives them the most advantage.



Great Job on winning the tournament. We made it to the championship game in Hajo's without boosting. Lordevil did some great scouting work and found are only weakness. Great job by him. Sounds like a good idea, guess the only thing left is to wait.
 
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Originally posted by Dtownokie
Originally posted by Galithor

32 team pro league, replace bottom 8 with champs from 8 feeder leagues each season. Feeder leagues populated with player owned teams that perform well in basic leagues each season. A new team starts in basic leagues, wins and moves up to feeder leagues in second season, wins and goes to pro league by third season.

Seems pretty simple and straight forward. I like it.


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Sounds good. Gives teams looking to compete a goal but makes you earn it.
 
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Originally posted by SamAdams
Originally posted by Dtownokie

Originally posted by Galithor


32 team pro league, replace bottom 8 with champs from 8 feeder leagues each season. Feeder leagues populated with player owned teams that perform well in basic leagues each season. A new team starts in basic leagues, wins and moves up to feeder leagues in second season, wins and goes to pro league by third season.

Seems pretty simple and straight forward. I like it.


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Sounds good. Gives teams looking to compete a goal but makes you earn it.


QFT.
 
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I agree about leaving out the boosting (you can leave custom eq active if need be ). From a business point, this would probably draw more interest to the game and get more people interested in owning a pee wee team. Although Bort probably generates a lot of revenue from teams that boost their pee wee players, by eliminating boosting I think that there would be more interest in agents to own teams/build players for pee wee to get their feet wet in the game.


I think that pee wee owners should also be allowed to build stadiums/change stadium names. This would allow newer owners to mess with finances/stadium builds without wrecking their teams. Plus this would be a good way to reward owners that keep their team year after year. Although the money won't really help in recruiting, it will allow the owners to pass some more $$ to loyal agents. Just a thought
 
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So with the season almost done and no official word, can we assume that it is back business as usual in Pee Wee?
 
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