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and even still let's compare my level 37's to your level 47? What have you got to lose? You start off with a 50sp advantage. what are you so afraid of?

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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Originally posted by UnderDogs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1110720

here's mine.

We have nothing to say until we compare.

You want to compare your level 25 corner who you superslowbuilt for a season and a half to my level 21 corner who wasn't super slowbuilt? Okay, but we have to meet up again when they are both at level 56 to see who is better. Wait . . . you won't ever get there. And so that you know what I will do with the 20 sps I'll get when I make it to 25, agility will be at the 4 sp cap, and vision will be soft capped. So, despite not superslowbuilding for a season and a half, he'll only be a few points behind in the three major attributes and ahead in jumping. You took a season and a half off of your cbs lifetime in order to get 3 more points in speed, maybe half of a point in agility, and 3 points in vision. Great trade off there.

My level 21: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1259811

He'll only be open for a short time. EDIT: close for the night. I might re-open him tomorrow.

You don't lose a season and a half from your overall career by SSB for 1 season. You lose about 1.5 levels in xp. 1 and a half seasons is probably something like 2.3 overall levels.
What you'd have to calculate to really see a loss is
1. What equipment would you miss out on? (And how much of a difference will level disparity make in the way of AEQ selection/upgrading?)
2. How much attribute difference is there? Assuming both players build efficiently (which is definitely no guarantee, especially for first and second season players, sadly) what is the overall real disparity in attributes? You'd have to factor in methods to cap earlier by the SSB, which in the long run benefit the player because they get more from automatic level gains.

Not trying to throw sand in anyone's vagina, but it's bad to post conjecture without any workable proof, unless you're just stating an opinion...
In which case who cares who you are? You're all nobodies.

/cave troll

PS: I'm far too lazy to care enough to use the player builder and calculate the exact difference. Maybe someone's already done it or will?

no point really. He is the best corner back to ever play the game of GLB. He said it himself. It must be true.

opinions don't matter. only the fact he is the best corner back builder in all of goal line blitz.

I'll start from the beginning since underdogs has to quadruple post in order to respond to one of mine.

1. I'm not keeping him open permanently. He is open again for now, and will be until I go to class. If you miss out on seeing him, I will open him up one more time later tonight. After that, he is closed.

2. I'm not sure by what standard you are arguing Yes Man has gotten worse. In the past 4 seasons he has played for a USAPL championship, a EEPL championship, a EEPL conference championship, and won an EEPL championship. He may not have the individual trophies, but I chose to go to teams with a higher number of cbs, who are all very well built, in order to win championships. He was averaging 20 players per game last season because of the number of cbs MEM has. No cb will be winning individual trophies at 20 plays per game in USAPL.

3. I won't be opening Yes Man II. I'm only opening Yes Man IV because he isn't near completion. So far he is pretty comparable to most slowbuilt cbs; he is just slightly more efficiently built. Soon I will be diverging from the normal path, and once I do, he won't be open again.

4. In response to Daddy: underdogs created his level 25 on day 23 of season 6. He didn't play in any games during seasons 6 or 7. That means in 57 days, he only got daily XP. He would have ended up at level 6 on day 40 of season 7. Players created on the same day, but who played in games would be close to level 16 by that time, losing him around 10 levels, or 50 sps. Also, most day 1 players will hit the decline at level 68. This means he will hit it at 58. Not only does he lose level 64 gear, but he also loses 8-9 VPs. He has essentially artificially inflated his cbs skills to make it look well built compared to cbs of the same level. He should be comparing him to cbs of the same age; cbs who he is vastly inferior to.

5. Back to underdogs. I never claimed I am the best cb builder in GLB, I just claimed that I am better than you. That has been proven numerous times over the two threads we are arguing with each other in. I make valid claims backed up by solid evidence and experience, you response with "La La La, I can't hear you!"

EDIT: He's closed again, for now. I'll open him again tonight. underdogs, leave a time here (with time zone), and I'll open it then.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
4. In response to Daddy: underdogs created his level 25 on day 23 of season 6. He didn't play in any games during seasons 6 or 7. That means in 57 days, he only got daily XP. He would have ended up at level 6 on day 40 of season 7. Players created on the same day, but who played in games would be close to level 16 by that time, losing him around 10 levels, or 50 sps. Also, most day 1 players will hit the decline at level 68. This means he will hit it at 58. Not only does he lose level 64 gear, but he also loses 8-9 VPs. He has essentially artificially inflated his cbs skills to make it look well built compared to cbs of the same level. He should be comparing him to cbs of the same age; cbs who he is vastly inferior to.

Your math is off though. Just because he lost ~50 SP at one point in time, doesn't mean he will have by career finality. 10 levels at level 6 doesn't translate to the same as 10 levels at level 58. Higher leveled players level slower, because they gain less daily xp and less game xp, therefor the lower guys gradually catch up to them. He won't ever have the exact same xp total as a result of slow building, but it's nowhere near the gap you're suggesting.

thats what she said

Yeah your wrong with your superslowbuilding math Longhorn. Its not that great of a difference. The difference is big in the first few seasons but then catch up happens later in the career. Actually I think the difference would be about....2 to 3 levels.
Also, there is good reason to superslowbuild. If you can get a superslowbuilt into a capped league where he is the max level he will be the best built CB in the league. Back in the old days this was relevant for 1 season, your 13capped season. With the new restructure your slowbuilt CB will dominate in like 3 or 4 leagues! Makes slowbuilding even more appealing then it was before.



You guys both have good corners though. YesmanIV and Nodondage are probably built pretty much exactly the same except one was slowbuilt so it will be slightly better.

You guys are both great CB builders with good information. Stop arguing about nothing. If you compare builds you will realize you both have solid CBs.

Originally posted by Pagypie

Originally posted by teamriots

Getting into this forum, all I can come up with is that Underdog is a total asshole and needs to learn some respect.
learn some respect? what does that even mean? have you never used the internet before? we're all anonymous disrespectful blow-hards.



lol +1
UD may be a huge dick sometimes, but we can all be huge dicks in the forums. That's the whole fun of them, arguing about pointless shit and being an arrogant bastard that thinks your the best. If we all "learned respect" the fun would be gone.

The fact that YesMan was called out for "getting worse" is pretty laughable.

UD says funny things.

Originally posted by whoshotjr
The fact that YesMan was called out for "getting worse" is pretty laughable.

I'm still trying to figure that one out.

As for my math, it does seem like it is a bit off. I don't think it is only 2-3 levels, though. Any math magicians willing to figure it out? I think it might be one and a half seasons worth of cap-level XP, which would be around 5 plus the boosts he didn't use so something like 8 levels. Either way, I still don't see the training gained being worth the sps and VPs lost.

As for your argument mmuhr about being the best built cb in a capped league, all of my arguments are based on the assumption that the agent wants his player to play in Pro. If we are comparing players slowbuilt for the specific purpose of playing in a capped league to players built in order to play in Pro, we are comparing apples and oranges and this is all just a big circle jerk.

Also, where the hell did underdogs go?

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


Also, where the hell did underdogs go?

Went making borderline whine threads in another section http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2853551