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FatNasty
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by FatNasty

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Agility =shed block....?



Been trying so hard to save the build last two seasons I've not had the SPs left over for SAs. I plan on getting SB up. Also been hunting that in AEQ to replace the aura one.

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Your V.a's do suck. You should focus on heavyweight or quick.



Really! That surprises me a little. BTW, what's your take in the Agility to Speed ratio discussion?


Your d.e is getting saved right now. You are doing the right things. He is getting pretty good. I bet he will be a beast next season if you get the shed blocks A.E. and switch the v.a's around a little. You keep working speed up to 80 and agility over 100. everything else is looking good already.

Start training your jumping up some as well. Jumping is more important than people give it credit for.


Great news. Just refreshed shed blocks as well! Its only +1 with no other bonus, but I think I'm going to pick it up anyway, then shop for a better version down the road a ways. Thanks for the advice!
 
bluebomber
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This probably should be stickied.
 
SunshineMan89
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Originally posted by UnderDogs


Start training your jumping up some as well. Jumping is more important than people give it credit for.


Strongly agree with this. One of the big "X-factors" that people ignore for DEs but shouldn't.

 
Kayoh
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Should I add SAs?
 
CoachCoughlin
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thank you.
 
CoachCoughlin
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PLEASE STICKY!
 
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What about Forced Fumbles? How does that play into it all? I am new and still learning but what I want to build is a NT, that has the strength that he has to have the double team, not a sack artist, plain rips the ball right out of the HB's hands. OK he misses some tackles.



 
zamtik
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An excellent guide ! I would add that at least this season and for lower levels (38 capped at least ) the advice given for the DT spot can work quite well for playing the NT position.
 
Kayoh
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Originally posted by Reverend Snag Expeditious
What about Forced Fumbles? How does that play into it all? I am new and still learning but what I want to build is a NT, that has the strength that he has to have the double team, not a sack artist, plain rips the ball right out of the HB's hands. OK he misses some tackles.

That's where the higher Tackling for a NT comes into play. Tackling directly correlates with Forced Fumbles. The LB on my team with the highest Tackling has 8 forced fumbles in 8 games.
 
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Originally posted by Reverend Snag Expeditious


What about Forced Fumbles? How does that play into it all? I am new and still learning but what I want to build is a NT, that has the strength that he has to have the double team, not a sack artist, plain rips the ball right out of the HB's hands. OK he misses some tackles.




Once your str hits about 61 you can start playing on power tackling. If you miss you're up front anyway right when the play develops. When you have over 70-80 str you will see ff's on power tackling start to rise. But it's up to you if you want to take a gamble on it.

I usually look over my opponents. If they have a PLOWERBACK I set to wrap up. Every other game it's Power.
 
tfuerte
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Not sure if this was asked, but what is the max agility you would go to on a DT before putting EQ in either speed or strength?

My DT is at 100.88 Agility (82.88 natural) and 62.88 strength. I was thinking about just putting all 24 equip into agility, then when 32 comes around switch to strength custom eq, but should i press the limits on agility?

Speed is still low, so don't ask what it is, but hope for him to be about 100 agility 80 strength 70 speed by level 40. But if agility is really worth it, then i could try something like 115 agility 70 strength 65 speed..

How high should i take agility?
 
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Originally posted by tfuerte
Not sure if this was asked, but what is the max agility you would go to on a DT before putting EQ in either speed or strength?

My DT is at 100.88 Agility (82.88 natural) and 62.88 strength. I was thinking about just putting all 24 equip into agility, then when 32 comes around switch to strength custom eq, but should i press the limits on agility?

Speed is still low, so don't ask what it is, but hope for him to be about 100 agility 80 strength 70 speed by level 40. But if agility is really worth it, then i could try something like 115 agility 70 strength 65 speed..

How high should i take agility?


My 39 is at 79.96 strength, 106.96 agility, 75.26 speed. I'm going to put lvl 40 upgrades into agility, then switch and put 48/56 into speed. I'm taking a brief break from putting sp into speed so I can cap vision/confidence with next level up and season 11 boost, but then will take speed to 80 and take advantage of sp return by training vision confidence from 48-54.

 
Sean Payton
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I'd like to post this in my teams forums with your permission.
 
Kayoh
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Go ahead.
 
bodhisfattva
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been lookin for it but cant find the post on build orders for speed DT so posting here.

what is the most efficient order for training a speed rushing dt

agil/speed or agil/vis first then str/tackle and so on? I know what to cap first just not sure what the most efficient way to train is.
 
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