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Originally posted by Dboy
Originally posted by WEglAudacity

And it was SOOO fair to bring Danny Boy into the BBB leagues. What level did he start the season at 12 or was it 13?

Get off my reciever. He is my first player created and he was a free agent when I bought the team. Why wouldnt MY receiver play on MY team?


I'm not so much ON your receiver. It's the fact that it is a double-standard. I understand wanting your receiver on your team. Just as I would expect you to understand that some of my former teammates wanted to come with me to the team I was on.

The charge is that the Dallas team was built up through collusion. And that it was built up by bringing in high level players to a lower level league.

First, to be collusion, it would have had to be planned. The Mayan Marauders disbanded because ownership changed and the players wanted to leave. The other team started out 0-5 and making the changes necessary would take more time than the owner could spare. We had roster slots open, and we took the chemistry hit for signing some of them.

Second, the players weren't as high level as they were being made out to be. I tried pointing out that the player level averages were very close to each other. It wasn't NEAR the gap that teams like Tecmo or Silverymoon have over their leagues.

That's the only reason Danny Boy was brought up.

To all you cryabies, that helped us win
I'd sincerely like to thank you
Cuz now we got the world swingin from our nuts
And damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS

I'm a hipocrite? Let me tell you something buddy, I had a BBB Team and I sold it because Free Agency was a joke and I didn't want to resort to the kind of crap that you're doing to be competitive. And another thing, when I sold my team I released every single player and told them they're free to go their own way. I didn't make a single trade. So don't tell me what I'd do if I was in your shoes, and how I
would cheat just like you if I had a chance. And If I'm helping my teams get better
by spending my money on alot of players then that's my business. I'd rather do that than gut teams from higher leagues. You can keep defending your actions all you want, it just makes you look stupid.
The teams that were good last year were the Buenos Aires and Midwest Mafia and I'm sure there's more in the Orangeblood wake if I really looked.


So let me get this right you gutted a team you owned and sold it back. How many of those players are now on EZC. You have the nerve you fucking dilweed to say we were wrong because we traded / paid cash for players from 2 teams that were the same thing happened. That my fucking retared co-gamer is hippocrasy at its finest

Originally posted by KillerFX
Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS


I'm a hipocrite? Let me tell you something buddy, I had a BBB Team and I sold it because Free Agency was a joke and I didn't want to resort to the kind of crap that you're doing to be competitive. And another thing, when I sold my team I released every single player and told them they're free to go their own way. I didn't make a single trade. So don't tell me what I'd do if I was in your shoes, and how I
would cheat just like you if I had a chance. And If I'm helping my teams get better
by spending my money on alot of players then that's my business. I'd rather do that than gut teams from higher leagues. You can keep defending your actions all you want, it just makes you look stupid.
The teams that were good last year were the Buenos Aires and Midwest Mafia and I'm sure there's more in the Orangeblood wake if I really looked.


So let me get this right you gutted a team you owned and sold it back. How many of those players are now on EZC. You have the nerve you fucking dilweed to say we were wrong because we traded / paid cash for players from 2 teams that were the same thing happened. That my fucking retared co-gamer is hippocrasy at its finest

Now who has the Reading Disorder? I said I released all players and sold the team back. You better know what you're talking about before you talk.I had the team for 2 days and made no trades. So the team went back with all the cpu's that I started with minus 2 days salary for about 8 players. Point all the fingers you want at me, I'm clean. Are You?

Originally posted by WEglAudacity
The charge is that the Dallas team was built up through collusion. And that it was built up by bringing in high level players to a lower level league.

All that means is you brought a bunch of higher level players into the league to win it. As I've said before, there was nothing wrong with doing that. I don't believe there was collusion, so why deny that process. Just admit you brought higher level players in, and tell the rest of them to buzz off.

There was no rule that you broke. I find it kind of silly though when I see people bragging about beating other teams, when you tend to outlevel everyone in either conference, and that is before your boosts.

The one thing I'd love to see though and nothing really against you, but you will understand if I root for every team you play through the playoffs. I kind of like the underdog, and it would be amazing should you lose.


Originally posted by WEglAudacity

Second, the players weren't as high level as they were being made out to be. I tried pointing out that the player level averages were very close to each other. It wasn't NEAR the gap that teams like Tecmo or Silverymoon have over their leagues.

That's the only reason Danny Boy was brought up.

A 13.95 average is a pretty damned high average. Specially if people believe as I do that you haven't really boosted yet this year. It would be interesting to see what other teams have as an average level, and how that stacks up with the standings.

PinTBC

Originally posted by PinTBC
All that means is you brought a bunch of higher level players into the league to win it. As I've said before, there was nothing wrong with doing that. I don't believe there was collusion, so why deny that process. Just admit you brought higher level players in, and tell the rest of them to buzz off.

There was no rule that you broke. I find it kind of silly though when I see people bragging about beating other teams, when you tend to outlevel everyone in either conference, and that is before your boosts.

The one thing I'd love to see though and nothing really against you, but you will understand if I root for every team you play through the playoffs. I kind of like the underdog, and it would be amazing should you lose.

A 13.95 average is a pretty damned high average. Specially if people believe as I do that you haven't really boosted yet this year. It would be interesting to see what other teams have as an average level, and how that stacks up with the standings.

PinTBC



I don't blame ANYONE for rooting against us. I LOVE underdogs. I'm an Auburn fan living in the state of Alabama 'by God' Crimson Tide. That alone should tell you something.

And there's no denying the players we brought in were higher than our team average at the time. I'm just saying they weren't league-busters. The whole level issue was blown out of proportion. Where the level issue comes into play most is in the backups, and you can see the difference there in the box score. I believe we have found good settings that give starters just over the 50 snaps they need, and give the backups enough plays to get near max xp as well. We even started our backups in a couple of games to prevent drop off in quality in the depth.

I don't even have anything against any of the players on other teams. They did their smack talking in the beginning when they looked dominant. They drew some bandwagon fans that smack talked along with them. We do some smack talking later, when we began to look dominant.

The difference is, we aren't accusing Tallahasse of wrong-doing because they played us close. They played a great game. If we under perform, we get onto the players not Bort for the way he programed the game. Ask some of the players for the team. They could have 100 yards and 3 TDs, and I'll still get onto them about a couple of dropped passes or a fumble. There were a couple of times I got so riled up I thought they would trade me off to Siberia.

Originally posted by PinTBC
Originally posted by WEglAudacity

The charge is that the Dallas team was built up through collusion. And that it was built up by bringing in high level players to a lower level league.

All that means is you brought a bunch of higher level players into the league to win it. As I've said before, there was nothing wrong with doing that. I don't believe there was collusion, so why deny that process. Just admit you brought higher level players in, and tell the rest of them to buzz off.

There was no rule that you broke. I find it kind of silly though when I see people bragging about beating other teams, when you tend to outlevel everyone in either conference, and that is before your boosts.

The one thing I'd love to see though and nothing really against you, but you will understand if I root for every team you play through the playoffs. I kind of like the underdog, and it would be amazing should you lose.


Originally posted by WEglAudacity


Second, the players weren't as high level as they were being made out to be. I tried pointing out that the player level averages were very close to each other. It wasn't NEAR the gap that teams like Tecmo or Silverymoon have over their leagues.

That's the only reason Danny Boy was brought up.

A 13.95 average is a pretty damned high average. Specially if people believe as I do that you haven't really boosted yet this year. It would be interesting to see what other teams have as an average level, and how that stacks up with the standings.

PinTBC



Yes we did bring in any player we could get and I will still do that no matter what. I have never denined we did that or will continue to do that. We have benefited from 2 teams that decided to disband and our relationship with the other Texas / orangebloods family.

I do deny we ever cheated, gutted, etc. Its all sour grapes and all about excuses. They never said shit till they lost. The truth of what happend is in all our posts if Bort wants to talk about it then we can but we did nothing wrong.

I have no problem with you rooting against us. I love the rival and banter in our league. What I do not like the being called a cheater by a team of pussies as an excuse for a loss.

I honestly hope we win all our games and the championship but reality we could lose to EZC, Crushers, seattle, tijauna, minnesota, fresno in the playoffs. If we do I'm not going to make an excuse about it. A few of those teams match up really good against us. This include EZC. I Respect what EZC did as a team this year and in the game. Once you call me a cheater though I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Yes we had a chip on our shoulder about EZC from the beginning of the year where they were given the league without a fight. Why do you think I continued to look for players. After we won we talked our shit and did our dance.

Its just a game people and this shit is getting old and tired.

PS I have a few super high level players I am going to pick up next season... O No i am cheating "savage ops"

Originally posted by WEglAudacity
Originally posted by PinTBC

All that means is you brought a bunch of higher level players into the league to win it. As I've said before, there was nothing wrong with doing that. I don't believe there was collusion, so why deny that process. Just admit you brought higher level players in, and tell the rest of them to buzz off.

There was no rule that you broke. I find it kind of silly though when I see people bragging about beating other teams, when you tend to outlevel everyone in either conference, and that is before your boosts.

The one thing I'd love to see though and nothing really against you, but you will understand if I root for every team you play through the playoffs. I kind of like the underdog, and it would be amazing should you lose.

A 13.95 average is a pretty damned high average. Specially if people believe as I do that you haven't really boosted yet this year. It would be interesting to see what other teams have as an average level, and how that stacks up with the standings.

PinTBC



I don't blame ANYONE for rooting against us. I LOVE underdogs. I'm an Auburn fan living in the state of Alabama 'by God' Crimson Tide. That alone should tell you something.

And there's no denying the players we brought in were higher than our team average at the time. I'm just saying they weren't league-busters. The whole level issue was blown out of proportion. Where the level issue comes into play most is in the backups, and you can see the difference there in the box score. I believe we have found good settings that give starters just over the 50 snaps they need, and give the backups enough plays to get near max xp as well. We even started our backups in a couple of games to prevent drop off in quality in the depth.

I don't even have anything against any of the players on other teams. They did their smack talking in the beginning when they looked dominant. They drew some bandwagon fans that smack talked along with them. We do some smack talking later, when we began to look dominant.

The difference is, we aren't accusing Tallahasse of wrong-doing because they played us close. They played a great game. If we under perform, we get onto the players not Bort for the way he programed the game. Ask some of the players for the team. They could have 100 yards and 3 TDs, and I'll still get onto them about a couple of dropped passes or a fumble. There were a couple of times I got so riled up I thought they would trade me off to Siberia.





You beat us fair and square and you'll probably win the league I'm sure, congratulations. That's not my complaint. Sure I wish that chemistry was a factor like I thought was intended to be to deter alot of mass movements of players. Where I got involved was when Gaga pointed out some of your dealings and I started back tracking and cross referencing user accounts with teams and player movements and the status of most of the teams you all came from. Well the worms just kept coming out of the can. That's where I have the problem. And I still don't like it when large groups of experienced players migrate down to a brand new league and leave teams behind in higher leagues to get beat by 100 + points. And if you do wanna join your buddies, serve out your contract then move. Or why didn't you all join the Mafia and stay there? That league was more challenging for you. But it seems that you guys don't want a challenge. And that's why you're here.

Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS

You beat us fair and square and you'll probably win the league I'm sure, congratulations. That's not my complaint. Sure I wish that chemistry was a factor like I thought was intended to be to deter alot of mass movements of players. Where I got involved was when Gaga pointed out some of your dealings and I started back tracking and cross referencing user accounts with teams and player movements and the status of most of the teams you all came from. Well the worms just kept coming out of the can. That's where I have the problem. And I still don't like it when large groups of experienced players migrate down to a brand new league and leave teams behind in higher leagues to get beat by 100 + points. And if you do wanna join your buddies, serve out your contract then move. Or why didn't you all join the Mafia and stay there? That league was more challenging for you. But it seems that you guys don't want a challenge. And that's why you're here.

To be honest, I don't think Dallas will win the league. I think the Atlanta Hitmen will. That doesn't mean we won't try like heck.

You say the worms keep coming out of the can, but the Mayan breakup has been explained by GMs and players alike. I can bring the old owner and the new owner and the majority of players in to tell you guys what happened, but it won't make anyone believe it.

I pointed out the players levels don't really make them dominant. I would think we are equal to the challenges we faced. Show me precisely how dominant the roster is compared to other roster's in the league, and I'll agree with you. Tell me it would put the argument to rest and *I* will calculate the average levels for all 32 teams in the league and post a thread on it.

But I really don't think facts and testimony will be considered. It's a rant and you're free to have at it. I've already said it, if we can't get an admin, I'll argue the case before any neutral jury that will volunteer. Choice is yours.

Originally posted by WEglAudacity
Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS


You beat us fair and square and you'll probably win the league I'm sure, congratulations. That's not my complaint. Sure I wish that chemistry was a factor like I thought was intended to be to deter alot of mass movements of players. Where I got involved was when Gaga pointed out some of your dealings and I started back tracking and cross referencing user accounts with teams and player movements and the status of most of the teams you all came from. Well the worms just kept coming out of the can. That's where I have the problem. And I still don't like it when large groups of experienced players migrate down to a brand new league and leave teams behind in higher leagues to get beat by 100 + points. And if you do wanna join your buddies, serve out your contract then move. Or why didn't you all join the Mafia and stay there? That league was more challenging for you. But it seems that you guys don't want a challenge. And that's why you're here.

To be honest, I don't think Dallas will win the league. I think the Atlanta Hitmen will. That doesn't mean we won't try like heck.

You say the worms keep coming out of the can, but the Mayan breakup has been explained by GMs and players alike. I can bring the old owner and the new owner and the majority of players in to tell you guys what happened, but it won't make anyone believe it.

I pointed out the players levels don't really make them dominant. I would think we are equal to the challenges we faced. Show me precisely how dominant the roster is compared to other roster's in the league, and I'll agree with you. Tell me it would put the argument to rest and *I* will calculate the average levels for all 32 teams in the league and post a thread on it.

But I really don't think facts and testimony will be considered. It's a rant and you're free to have at it. I've already said it, if we can't get an admin, I'll argue the case before any neutral jury that will volunteer. Choice is yours.



WEll sister, I guess that's easy for you to say cuz you're on the team with the Higher levels, but you can keep claiming you brilliance at player building and game Strategizing. But I'd just like to see you display that on a more competitive Playing field. Kinda like the ones you all left to come here.

Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS
WEll sister, I guess that's easy for you to say cuz you're on the team with the Higher levels, but you can keep claiming you brilliance at player building and game Strategizing. But I'd just like to see you display that on a more competitive Playing field. Kinda like the ones you all left to come here.

We would have beaten you even without the 1/2 level superiority. It's all about the settings.

Your Kung Fu is weak.

Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS
Originally posted by WEglAudacity

Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS



You beat us fair and square and you'll probably win the league I'm sure, congratulations. That's not my complaint. Sure I wish that chemistry was a factor like I thought was intended to be to deter alot of mass movements of players. Where I got involved was when Gaga pointed out some of your dealings and I started back tracking and cross referencing user accounts with teams and player movements and the status of most of the teams you all came from. Well the worms just kept coming out of the can. That's where I have the problem. And I still don't like it when large groups of experienced players migrate down to a brand new league and leave teams behind in higher leagues to get beat by 100 + points. And if you do wanna join your buddies, serve out your contract then move. Or why didn't you all join the Mafia and stay there? That league was more challenging for you. But it seems that you guys don't want a challenge. And that's why you're here.

To be honest, I don't think Dallas will win the league. I think the Atlanta Hitmen will. That doesn't mean we won't try like heck.

You say the worms keep coming out of the can, but the Mayan breakup has been explained by GMs and players alike. I can bring the old owner and the new owner and the majority of players in to tell you guys what happened, but it won't make anyone believe it.

I pointed out the players levels don't really make them dominant. I would think we are equal to the challenges we faced. Show me precisely how dominant the roster is compared to other roster's in the league, and I'll agree with you. Tell me it would put the argument to rest and *I* will calculate the average levels for all 32 teams in the league and post a thread on it.

But I really don't think facts and testimony will be considered. It's a rant and you're free to have at it. I've already said it, if we can't get an admin, I'll argue the case before any neutral jury that will volunteer. Choice is yours.



WEll sister, I guess that's easy for you to say cuz you're on the team with the Higher levels, but you can keep claiming you brilliance at player building and game Strategizing. But I'd just like to see you display that on a more competitive Playing field. Kinda like the ones you all left to come here.

Go take a look at USA A #3. We're overmatched by numerous teams in that league.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=34

Savage Ops,

You folks need to stop this. It is really starting to look like sour grapes. You may have a point, I don't really think so, but you may. Even if you do though, this really has degenerated into a bunch of people talking at each other, with neither side really wanting to listen to the other (for good reasons actually).

They beat you. For whatever reason you folks played and they won. I expect that you will have one more chance to beat them this year. Instead of thrashing about on the boards here, and making yourselves look kind of whiny, figure out how to beat them next time.

Oh! and remember for Memorial day, alot of very good people died to give us the right to take part in silly arguments on a bulletin board.

PinTBC

Originally posted by Paul Kemp
Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS

Originally posted by WEglAudacity


Originally posted by SAVAGE OPS




You beat us fair and square and you'll probably win the league I'm sure, congratulations. That's not my complaint. Sure I wish that chemistry was a factor like I thought was intended to be to deter alot of mass movements of players. Where I got involved was when Gaga pointed out some of your dealings and I started back tracking and cross referencing user accounts with teams and player movements and the status of most of the teams you all came from. Well the worms just kept coming out of the can. That's where I have the problem. And I still don't like it when large groups of experienced players migrate down to a brand new league and leave teams behind in higher leagues to get beat by 100 + points. And if you do wanna join your buddies, serve out your contract then move. Or why didn't you all join the Mafia and stay there? That league was more challenging for you. But it seems that you guys don't want a challenge. And that's why you're here.

To be honest, I don't think Dallas will win the league. I think the Atlanta Hitmen will. That doesn't mean we won't try like heck.

You say the worms keep coming out of the can, but the Mayan breakup has been explained by GMs and players alike. I can bring the old owner and the new owner and the majority of players in to tell you guys what happened, but it won't make anyone believe it.

I pointed out the players levels don't really make them dominant. I would think we are equal to the challenges we faced. Show me precisely how dominant the roster is compared to other roster's in the league, and I'll agree with you. Tell me it would put the argument to rest and *I* will calculate the average levels for all 32 teams in the league and post a thread on it.

But I really don't think facts and testimony will be considered. It's a rant and you're free to have at it. I've already said it, if we can't get an admin, I'll argue the case before any neutral jury that will volunteer. Choice is yours.



WEll sister, I guess that's easy for you to say cuz you're on the team with the Higher levels, but you can keep claiming you brilliance at player building and game Strategizing. But I'd just like to see you display that on a more competitive Playing field. Kinda like the ones you all left to come here.

Go take a look at USA A #3. We're overmatched by numerous teams in that league.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/league.pl?league_id=34


Which is why you're here. Because you'd rather drop down to a new league where you can be "Da Man's"
And furthermore I'm not talking about the Austin Orangebloods league, I'm talking about the South American AA and the Asian AA Leagues. What do you have to say about them, Pauly? How are they lookin now? Those teams are losin like 127-0

I just want to thank all of the teams that came forward and petitioned. It is now in the hands of the admins. Please do not comment further on this topic. Thank you.