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Originally posted by coreyls18
auto adjust....people actually use that

I don't mean the auto-adjust feature that you set.

There's also the adjustments that the game makes solely based on how the game is going, and is completely independent of where you set Auto-Adjust at.

A 34.5 yard field goal in the first quarter does make somebody an all-star, I agree the situation helped to put you guys on the board quick but it's a kickers job to make field goals, pretty much his only job and 34 yards that is gimmie range and in the first quarter really not too much pressure, in my opinion your kicker has an argument because he is 33 of 42 then because he made 2 field goals in one quarter. Also if he was in alpha he would not even be considered for all-star because of Manstag, Longshanks and Dust.

Originally posted by coreyls18
Originally posted by coreyls18

Maybe somthing like this:?
Have each Owner fill this out, and maybe one Gm as well..

Position, Player, Team

QB - 1st team
QB - 2nd team
HB - 1st team
HB - 2nd team
FB - 1st team
FB - 2nd team
WR - 1st team
WR - 1st team
WR - 2nd team
WR - 2nd team
TE - 1st team
TE - 2nd team
OT - 1st team
OT - 1st team
OT - 2nd team
OT - 2nd team
G - 1st team
G - 1st team
G - 2nd team
G - 2nd team
C - 1st team
C - 2nd team
DE - 1st team
DE - 1st team
DE - 2nd team
DE - 2nd team
DT - 1st team
DT - 1st team
DT - 2nd team
DT - 2nd team
LB - 1st team
LB - 1st team
LB - 2nd team
LB - 2nd team
CB - 1st team
CB - 1st team
CB - 2nd team
CB - 2nd team
SS - 1st team
SS - 2nd team
FS - 1st team
FS - 2nd team

K - 1st team
K - 2nd team
P - 1st team
P - 2nd team

KR - 1st team
KR - 2nd team
PR - 1st team
PR - 2nd team
MVP -
OPOY -
DPOY -

Why not just have all the owners(no GMS) fill this out with players on other teams, not their own, and then we will have someone tally them up...this will avoid all our bickering and confusion. Be short and painless.


I think this list is too lengthy, why not just vote on one team, if you vote 1st and 2nd team, votes would have to be weighted, like voting for 1st team give 2 points, voting for 2nd team 1, that even makes it much tougher than easier, I'd go for half the ballot.

Originally posted by Clutch24
A 34.5 yard field goal in the first quarter does make somebody an all-star, I agree the situation helped to put you guys on the board quick but it's a kickers job to make field goals, pretty much his only job and 34 yards that is gimmie range and in the first quarter really not too much pressure, in my opinion your kicker has an argument because he is 33 of 42 then because he made 2 field goals in one quarter. Also if he was in alpha he would not even be considered for all-star because of Manstag, Longshanks and Dust.

Well, like I said, it was only one example. Numbnuts has bailed us out of complete misery over and over and over and over and over again. And this right here just shows how other teams really don't have a good concept on how valuable players are to their teams. All they see are the stat boards, and the stat boards don't tell the whole story.

Another team's kicker may have FAR more field goals kicked in the season, and perhaps even better accuracy. However, they could still have just been icing on the cake. For a long stretch, the Stampede didn't have an offense. All we had was Numbnuts.

So the kicker that kicks more field goals and is more accurate is not an all-star because his team was good and they were not as important, how is that fair? I do think big, important plays should be factored in voting, "clutch" factored but not so much. "All-star" as a sports term can refer to an "all-star" team selected as the best players at particular positions in team sports. (Wikipedia)

That isn't my point. My point is that Numbnuts wouldn't even be remotely considered if there wasn't a nomination system. He may not lead in stats, but he has had far more pressure to perform than so many other kickers up there. He at least deserves consideration, and you know as well as I do that he wouldn't get an ounce of consideration if there wasn't a nomination system.

The problem now, is that youre arguing with me about whether or not Numbnuts is the best kicker in the league. That's not what I'm trying to get at. What I'm trying to say is that there needs to be a team-nominated list so we can factor in things like pressure performances and overall team value.

If we're only going to go by stats, then I'll just go ahead and take the top guys off the stat boards and write them down and post them up for you guys, who needs to vote anyway?

just take a max of 10 players from your team show stats and explain why they're a potential allstar... for example if i was to take my RB Randy Watson and nominate him it'd go somewhat along the lines of....

Randy Watson ran for 1,528.5 yards which has him atop the chart for rushing in the zeta conference... Averaging 109.2 yards a game with 18 TD's, Watson continues high levels of production even though the oppositions game plans to shut him down ... Hes broken 95 tackles but has been stopped in the backfield 43 times which isn't bad when you've had nearly 350 carries

if we decided to use the nomination model... a basic summary of the season should make things easy to determine who to vote for

Originally posted by SexualChocolate
just take a max of 10 players from your team show stats and explain why they're a potential allstar... for example if i was to take my RB Randy Watson and nominate him it'd go somewhat along the lines of....

Randy Watson ran for 1,528.5 yards which has him atop the chart for rushing in the zeta conference... Averaging 109.2 yards a game with 18 TD's, Watson continues high levels of production even though the oppositions game plans to shut him down ... Hes broken 95 tackles but has been stopped in the backfield 43 times which isn't bad when you've had nearly 340 carries

if we decided to use the nomination model... a basic summary of the season should make things easy to determine who to vote for

I agree. Our nominees should have a small write-up that justifies their own nominations. 10 nominees seems a little much. I guess 5 is too small for some people. What about 7? Three from offense, three from defense, and 1 from either offense, defense, or special teams...

We need to find someone not associated with WEPL to come in and put together a list of players(i.e. MLB and basically every other professional sports league) that we vote off of.

Of course, I really doubt this would happen.

Numbnuts is on the list, hell he is number 7 behind at least 4 alpha guys but I am not trying to argue I agree with what you are saying about getting your players names out there, however also think if they deserve to be an all-star their name is already out there a little.

Vote for Chad Thomas is all I have to say.

every teams nomination will be 1 RB, 1 QB and 1 WR

Originally posted by Clutch24
Numbnuts is on the list, hell he is number 7 behind at least 4 alpha guys but I am not trying to argue I agree with what you are saying about getting your players names out there, however also think if they deserve to be an all-star their name is already out there a little.

Well if their name is already out there, then they already have quite an advantage in voting, all they have to do is be nominated (which would be almost automatic)

Originally posted by Clutch24
Originally posted by ArthurRiot

I think we can be mature enough to be fair.

I don't know what that means....all I have been saying is basically what you just in your post, for your consideration, I used the phrase state your case. But by having the coaches nominate 5 players you are completely defeating the purpose of having an all-star team voted on by your peers. It is real simple, "For your consideration" every player or coach explains why they should be an all-star and then coaches can pick 2-4 players whether they are on the FYC list or not, they just can NOT be on their own team.

Does that sound mature and fair?


That sounds both mature and fair, if everyone is involved.

My 'mature and fair' was directed to your stats argument. I think the point is, while stats matter, it's not always the stats LISTED that matter most, especially when it comes to jobs in the trenches. Pancakes are recorded for linemen, but the most important stats for them are 'how often was the QB hurried/sacked? How often was the HB TFL?'. These aren't recorded on the lineman's page. A CB who only has 40 tackles 1 INT and 25 DPs might not sound that impressive, but what if he was a great cover CB who always blanked his WR? I think we can be mature and fair by looking PAST just the number of INTs and Pancakes, and seeing which players really did their jobs best.

You sounded mad, nuttin but love fo' ya