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It's different for a SS that's put in the box a lot though. A good amount of teams are running Cover 1 these days with the FS taking the middle zone and the SS closer to the LOS. In that case I don't see much of a problem with a SS getting a bunch of tackles.

I mean, his dot still got a good amount of PDs. I don't think it's a case of his dot allowing a ton of catches and being terrible in coverage.

Yeah, the statline isn't as ridiculous when you take out the gut games, but it's still pretty dang good.
 
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I watch him play. Teams actually game plan to stay away from him. Do you ever make a game plan to stay away from a S.S.?

When people make game plans to stay away from him his stats are deflated a bit yes. But for those guys who just go after him, he makes them pay.

look at the first scrimmage of this season, against one of the best teams in AFAAA#1 You can't deny that is a great team.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=550534

My S.S.(who is out leveled across the board, and out leveled 8 by their Q.B. and H.B.) dismantled them.

One thing you forget to take into account my friend. He is the lowest level player on his team, and quite possibly was the lowest level player in his league last season.

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/topic.

this was never about who's S.S. is the best, just about str over tackling.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
I watch him play. Teams actually game plan to stay away from him. Do you ever make a game plan to stay away from a S.S.?


you can tell the QB not to throw to the WR2 or TE!?!?

Originally posted by
look at the first scrimmage of this season, against one of the best teams in AFAAA#1 You can't deny that is a great team.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=550534


a scrim this season has what to do with last season?

Originally posted by
My S.S.(who is out leveled across the board, and out leveled 8 by their Q.B. and H.B.) dismantled them.

One thing you forget to take into account my friend. He is the lowest level player on his team, and quite possibly was the lowest level player in his league last season.
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/careface.

maybe you should actually read what i'm saying before getting so defensive. I'm not attacking your SS; it's all in your head.

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this was never about who's S.S. is the best


then stop pretending like I said my SS was better when I opened with saying I am not making any such argument.

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When people make game plans to stay away from him his stats are deflated a bit yes


BTW, I was saying it's the opposite, that the stats can become inflated.


Your self-conscientiousness aside, i do kinda agree with you on strength over tackling but it also depends on what type of SS you wanna be. Coverage or fumbler, then yes. If you got the D-line and LBs to control the run game, then that fits fine. If the running game depends on you, then I think tackling becomes way more important. It all depends on how you want to approach it and the players around you.

It seems to me successful teams find players that complement each other.
 
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Originally posted by DanNava
Originally posted by UnderDogs

I watch him play. Teams actually game plan to stay away from him. Do you ever make a game plan to stay away from a S.S.?

you can tell the QB not to throw to the WR2 or TE!?!


ERM yes. you really are a noob aren't you? There are plays in the playbook with red patterns. You know what it means? Do I have to hold your hand through this? or can u figure it out from here?

Originally posted by DanNava

look at the first scrimmage of this season, against one of the best teams in AFAAA#1 You can't deny that is a great team.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=550534

a scrim this season has what to do with last season?

nothing except the fact that it was an African AAA playoff team last season?

Originally posted by DanNava

My S.S.(who is out leveled across the board, and out leveled 8 by their Q.B. and H.B.) dismantled them.

One thing you forget to take into account my friend. He is the lowest level player on his team, and quite possibly was the lowest level player in his league last season.

/careface.

Right because you got pwned and have nothing to say. EOD


Originally posted by DanNava

this was never about who's S.S. is the best

then stop pretending like I said my SS was better when I opened with saying I am not making any such argument.

the point is, you better have a foundation to make a stand before you "make a stand" you're like a taco bell dog barking at the pit bulls.

Originally posted by DanNava

When people make game plans to stay away from him his stats are deflated a bit yes

BTW, I was saying it's the opposite, that the stats can become inflated.

Yes when they run at him and pass at him he gets his stats inflated because he actually makes plays. you simply cannot throw or run towards him. he will fuck you up 9 times out of 10. Simply put.


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oaklandraider
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this was posted a while back by Bort

Originally posted by Player
Tackling should be more important than Str in the tackling equation for sure.

Originally posted by Bort
It already is. Quite a bit more. STR mostly helps you hold them back when you make the tackle.


I cut n pasted onto my team's forum a while back ... cant remember where from ... maybe the Test blog
 
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Originally posted by oaklandraider
this was posted a while back by Bort

Originally posted by Player
Tackling should be more important than Str in the tackling equation for sure.

Originally posted by Bort
It already is. Quite a bit more. STR mostly helps you hold them back when you make the tackle.


I cut n pasted onto my team's forum a while back ... cant remember where from ... maybe the Test blog


yeah no one is saying str is better than tackling for tackling.

It's just that tackling is so one dementional.

Str has a lot more advantages.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by oaklandraider

this was posted a while back by Bort

Originally posted by Player
Tackling should be more important than Str in the tackling equation for sure.

Originally posted by Bort
It already is. Quite a bit more. STR mostly helps you hold them back when you make the tackle.


I cut n pasted onto my team's forum a while back ... cant remember where from ... maybe the Test blog


yeah no one is saying str is better than tackling for tackling.

It's just that tackling is so one dementional.

Str has a lot more advantages.


I don't think Underdog has eve said Strength is better for Tackling. I'm not defending anyone, but this entire thread seems to have gone down the toilet.

Tackling helps tackling.

Strength is a factor for many things ranging from, block shedding, pass deflections / jarring the ball loose, FFs, and yes (and i hope people don't start hating me for this... ) tackling as well.

I'm still not sure which attribute i'm going to take up to 60 whether it be tackling or strength. But both have their reasons ... and are practically good choices depending on what you are trying to go for.

Although this thread is filled with bickering, it's still has undertones, and hints of being useful so if you need help in this matter read it through. (this line is to help people who are looking for help on the matter)
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
ERM yes. you really are a noob aren't you? There are plays in the playbook with red patterns. You know what it means? Do I have to hold your hand through this? or can u figure it out from here?


It still doesn't stop it from happening. If the WR2 gets open, he'll get thrown at. Not to mention we have to take your word for it that he's being gameplanned against, which is odd in and of itself.

BTW, I'm such a n00b I can use the quoting feature properly.

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nothing except the fact that it was an African AAA playoff team last season?


non-sequitor.

Originally posted by
Right because you got pwned and have nothing to say. EOD


yes, you got me there. your ego prop up rantings totally pwned me.


Originally posted by
the point is, you better have a foundation to make a stand before you "make a stand" you're like a taco bell dog barking at the pit bulls.


yet another non-sequitor. Oh and an ad hom. fail and fail.

You complained about where my SS plays and yet I played in the same place as you did, starting for a 16-0 team. I also demonstrated how your stats were inflated.

your comeback equated to "nuh-uh i am the bestest cuz i say so," which is even more hilarious because I never made a comment on whether he's better or not.



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Yes when they run at him and pass at him he gets his stats inflated because he actually makes plays. you simply cannot throw or run towards him. he will fuck you up 9 times out of 10. Simply put.


You're not very good at following along with an argument, are you? This is normally where I would talk slower but since that's not possible, i suppose there's no point.

Not to mention, within the same page you claimed his stats are deflated and inflated. Sense, you're not making any.

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G Tack Sack Int Yds IntTD DefTD FFum PD Sfty
4 9 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5 16 127 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 0
6 16 228 0 1 1 0 1 5 12 0
7 16 152 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0
8 16 154 1 2 22 0 1 11 40
 
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greatest ever haha jk
 
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Originally posted by DanNava


Not to mention, within the same page you claimed his stats are deflated and inflated. Sense, you're not making any.



you're dumb. get out of aa ball. did you suck so bad in AAA ball you had to demote your own guy. you suck. shut up. You're annoying.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by DanNava



Not to mention, within the same page you claimed his stats are deflated and inflated. Sense, you're not making any.



you're dumb. get out of aa ball. did you suck so bad in AAA ball you had to demote your own guy. you suck. shut up. You're annoying.


why, that's the most intelligent and thoughtful response on glb, ever. kudos, sir.
 
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Originally posted by DanNava
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by DanNava




Not to mention, within the same page you claimed his stats are deflated and inflated. Sense, you're not making any.



you're dumb. get out of aa ball. did you suck so bad in AAA ball you had to demote your own guy. you suck. shut up. You're annoying.


why, that's the most intelligent and thoughtful response on glb, ever. kudos, sir.


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