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Originally posted by Doomsday
Originally posted by Veg



I think personally that most if not all the AAA1/2 play off teams would fair decent in USA Pro. Alot of resillent teams that just continue to defy logic and where they should go down. In AAA2 the royals took the pounds to the limit. Any one could of won that game.

I guess making the PO's in pro can be considered decent. Though, the teams that came up from AAA last season besides the Wolfpack had it kind of tough. Out of the 9 teams that were promoted 6 made the play-off's. 5 of these 6 teams were booted in the first round. These are all good teams but it really does get alot tougher at this level.






Very true but they did well and with the current state of the sim it may be alot different next season.

Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by The Duff Man

Originally posted by Veg


Originally posted by rj414




We aren't far from 1-2 good teams competing to avoid relegation, to be honest.

Oh you so lie.

I read here Dallas was gutting? Didn't hear it from them though.
That leaves Parma (AAA Season 6 Champ), Freebirds (#5 seed last season I think) and Compton (Season 6 Conference Winner) as the worst teams left from Season 8...with two teams being relegated.

In the East I feel that Philly and Zoo will have a hard time avoiding relegation.



Wrong dallas Duff - the team that's selling is the Dallas Longhorns who are promoting. They had made that decision awhile ago apparently.

If they are selling, I think someone should tell support so that we don't get a gutted team up here.

Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by xnahog

Originally posted by Bevo53


Originally posted by StinkCheese



there is atleast one team that never deserved to be here in the first place

I'm not sure who you are referring to, but generally the conference champs are the only one who deserve it.

I disagree. I think the regular season shouldn't be thrown out of the equation. The best teams aren't automatically conference champs. Anyway, he's referring to a team that jumped from USA A to USA Pro a few seasons back with the first major realignment. They got hammered and haven't been able to produce since.

No offense, but if you were a conference champ I don't think you'd feel that way.

you dont understand the whole situation that we are talking about as far as which team never deserved to be in USA pro feel free to PM me if you want to know more

Is NAN going to get promoted? Man, if Pittsburgh and LV Lightning get here as well, we would have 4 teams representing USA BBB8 (5 if you count Philadelphia, but they didn't start in BBB8).

Originally posted by xnahog
Originally posted by Bevo53

Originally posted by StinkCheese


there is atleast one team that never deserved to be here in the first place

I'm not sure who you are referring to, but generally the conference champs are the only one who deserve it.

I disagree. I think the regular season shouldn't be thrown out of the equation. The best teams aren't automatically conference champs. Anyway, he's referring to a team that jumped from USA A to USA Pro a few seasons back with the first major realignment. They got hammered and haven't been able to produce since.

I also disagree. A 15-1 record this season without spamming the SI SLAM demonstrates this. There's a reason this country kicks the crap out of the rest of the world's pro leagues now. Its just because of this merit based promotion system.

I'm going to try to clarify a few things I mentioned last night before I went to bed...

To me, the only team that deserves the promotion are the conference champs, because they are getting promoted no matter who guts or doesn't gut. The other teams getting promoted are simply getting moved up because there is room. This is not to say they can't compete or even win USA Pro the following season. There are plenty of good teams that have had great seasons in AAA but does that mean they deserve a promotion? My team went 13-3 without boosting against anyone 2 seasons ago in AAA, did we deserve a promotion? What if we had boosted in the 3 games we lost and went 15-1 or 16-0? Would we deserve it then?

Yes, my team is being sold back, so we won't be in USA Pro officially I guess. This was a decision made at the end of last season and it has nothing to do with the fact we didn't think we could win or compete in USA Pro. It has to do more with my personal time commitment to this game and how I can no longer commit as much time going forward.

If you guys are wondering, just about all the players on the team have been committed to other teams. About half the team will be joining San Diego so that hopefully we can give them the boost they need to make the playoffs next season. Best of luck to everyone next season!

Originally posted by StinkCheese
Originally posted by rj414

Originally posted by xnahog


Originally posted by Bevo53



Originally posted by StinkCheese




there is atleast one team that never deserved to be here in the first place

I'm not sure who you are referring to, but generally the conference champs are the only one who deserve it.

I disagree. I think the regular season shouldn't be thrown out of the equation. The best teams aren't automatically conference champs. Anyway, he's referring to a team that jumped from USA A to USA Pro a few seasons back with the first major realignment. They got hammered and haven't been able to produce since.

No offense, but if you were a conference champ I don't think you'd feel that way.

you dont understand the whole situation that we are talking about as far as which team never deserved to be in USA pro feel free to PM me if you want to know more

I know you're referring to Philadelphia, and while I'm not familiar with exactly how they managed to jump all the leagues between A and Pro, I also think they're here now and for whatever its worth they've avoided relegation the whole time. Next season people are saying they might not, but we'll see what happens.

Originally posted by Bevo53
I'm going to try to clarify a few things I mentioned last night before I went to bed...

To me, the only team that deserves the promotion are the conference champs, because they are getting promoted no matter who guts or doesn't gut. The other teams getting promoted are simply getting moved up because there is room. This is not to say they can't compete or even win USA Pro the following season. There are plenty of good teams that have had great seasons in AAA but does that mean they deserve a promotion? My team went 13-3 without boosting against anyone 2 seasons ago in AAA, did we deserve a promotion? What if we had boosted in the 3 games we lost and went 15-1 or 16-0? Would we deserve it then?

Yes, my team is being sold back, so we won't be in USA Pro officially I guess. This was a decision made at the end of last season and it has nothing to do with the fact we didn't think we could win or compete in USA Pro. It has to do more with my personal time commitment to this game and how I can no longer commit as much time going forward.

If you guys are wondering, just about all the players on the team have been committed to other teams. About half the team will be joining San Diego so that hopefully we can give them the boost they need to make the playoffs next season. Best of luck to everyone next season!

Good clarification, but I gotta say if you didnt boost it's your own fault, and no one else's.

Sorry to hear your team is folding, though.

I just feel that Pro leagues really got legitimzed when Bort started taking out the trash each offseason and moving the best remaining teams up. I'll still always rather 'earn' it by winning the playoffs, but lets face it...playoffs one game allows for a lot of luck...

NY-CA has won their conference so sure, they deserve to be up here. They will still get killed by the Wolfpack probably, even though the Wolfpack couldn't manage to win their conference during AAA.

The Templars in AA3 were an 8 seed, but got hot at the right time and now they are conference champs and going to AAA2. Are they most deserving over say a team that actually went 14-2 or 15-1? I'd say its debatable.

I'm not saying playoff winners should ever stay down (don't misread this above) but I am saying is that winning over the course of a week is one thing, winning over the course of longer can sometimes be a better indicator.

I mean come on, look at Compton

Originally posted by StinkCheese
there is atleast one team that never deserved to be here in the first place

ahhhhhhh. poor Naturals. We took a chance when you did not. You did not have enough forward thinking to do it. So don't come crying here with all these guys. You guys are still mad that we handled you so well when the games counted. The only cheap win you had is when the sim had us miss and XP at the end of the game to send it into overtime and you guys got LUCKY with a long pass to win the championship for that season.

Here is the funny thing...you guys have one 2 trophies, both from BBB. We have 2 trophies, both from BBB...so really you have accomplished nothing either, your team was just pushed through the system. You have no right coming in here and trying to say who belongs and who does not. We won enough to be here for a 4th season, so keep to your AAA forums since you have not earned the right to come to PRO.

Granted we should have stayed the route and we would have had more money and been able to compete better and been able to afford lvl 40 and 48 equip., but then I would be crying like you guys about have to say in AAA or something like that for another season...and puking!!!

Originally posted by rj414
Originally posted by StinkCheese

Originally posted by rj414


Originally posted by xnahog



Originally posted by Bevo53




Originally posted by StinkCheese





there is atleast one team that never deserved to be here in the first place

I'm not sure who you are referring to, but generally the conference champs are the only one who deserve it.

I disagree. I think the regular season shouldn't be thrown out of the equation. The best teams aren't automatically conference champs. Anyway, he's referring to a team that jumped from USA A to USA Pro a few seasons back with the first major realignment. They got hammered and haven't been able to produce since.

No offense, but if you were a conference champ I don't think you'd feel that way.

you dont understand the whole situation that we are talking about as far as which team never deserved to be in USA pro feel free to PM me if you want to know more

I know you're referring to Philadelphia, and while I'm not familiar with exactly how they managed to jump all the leagues between A and Pro, I also think they're here now and for whatever its worth they've avoided relegation the whole time. Next season people are saying they might not, but we'll see what happens.

plain and simply a few season's ago with the team swap. A gutted PRO team a guy bought , he did not want to stay PRO...he put it out there, 12th offered it up....the admins OK'd it. Did we deserve it...probably not. But like I said we had the forward thinking to do it and have "avoided" regulation for 4 seasons now. The thing is the team crying about it only has BBB trophies....same as us. Now they think they deserve it!!!! LOL

Nats just need to do what we did, come back with extreme focus next season and win a trophy.

Originally posted by Joe Rice
so keep to your AAA forums since you have not earned the right to come to PRO.

That's funny coming from a guy who plays for Philly

I'll take a 39-9 record over the past 3 seasons over whatever the heck it is you guys have done with yourselves Joe

Y'all are starting to make yourselves look worse than I did when complaining about Kentucky last season.

Seriously, just let what happens happen and go from there. There's worse things than having to play another season in AAA. Consider it a chance to shut up all the critics.