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Underdawg08
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
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Well, the test will be complete. My level 28 end only has speed agility and tunnel vision. He finished with 21 sacks, and beat a level 36 tackle( I think) in the playoffs for a sack. I know, as well as everyone else in the D.E. P.T. forum that Speed and agility work, with a little T.V. regardless of anything else. they Work. It might take more str or more shed blocks and t.v. at the higher levels, but they generally over all work for producing sacks, at any level.

MY level 28 D.E. got noticeably better from season to season. with 2, then 8, now 21. As his speed and agility grew so did his sack count. Then this season I raised T.V. to 4(5) to try to help us win a championship, and he has 21 sacks.

Bottom line is it works. It's visible in the sim. you can see it works. People know it works.

The same can be held accountable for Strong base. If str and strong base worked, he will have a steady increase in sacks as the seasons go on.

It's either going to fail or pass. that's all there is to it.


If you're talking about "Terror" 20 out of his 21 sacks are against gutted teams with gutted OTs. I guess you can chalk that up as "worked" (the only thing that worked is your DE plays in an inferior league)

The test you're proposing is such a joke no real DE builder should take it serious.

1) You don't know what Strong Base boosts, and it is doubtful Strong Base only boosts strength.

2) Do you do a comparative analysis between the OT that you beat and your DE that "worked"? You need to see both of their builds (hence a real test will have data on both OT and DE, not just DE and an ass guess on the OT build)

3) How bias is your test? If you pile up str and Strong Base and neglect to follow up spd, agi, TV, FS, etc. I can tell you right now it won't work.


Shut up this test is happening and you will be made a fool of.
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue


If you're talking about "Terror" 20 out of his 21 sacks are against gutted teams with gutted OTs. I guess you can chalk that up as "worked" (the only thing that worked is your DE plays in an inferior league)

The test you're proposing is such a joke no real DE builder should take it serious.

1) You don't know what Strong Base boosts, and it is doubtful Strong Base only boosts strength.

2) Do you do a comparative analysis between the OT that you beat and your DE that "worked"? You need to see both of their builds (hence a real test will have data on both OT and DE, not just DE and an ass guess on the OT build)

3) How bias is your test? If you pile up str and Strong Base and neglect to follow up spd, agi, TV, FS, etc. I can tell you right now it won't work.


this is not that complicated of an experiment.
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Originally posted by whatje
Originally posted by BiggerBlue



If you're talking about "Terror" 20 out of his 21 sacks are against gutted teams with gutted OTs. I guess you can chalk that up as "worked" (the only thing that worked is your DE plays in an inferior league)

The test you're proposing is such a joke no real DE builder should take it serious.

1) You don't know what Strong Base boosts, and it is doubtful Strong Base only boosts strength.

2) Do you do a comparative analysis between the OT that you beat and your DE that "worked"? You need to see both of their builds (hence a real test will have data on both OT and DE, not just DE and an ass guess on the OT build)

3) How bias is your test? If you pile up str and Strong Base and neglect to follow up spd, agi, TV, FS, etc. I can tell you right now it won't work.


this is not that complicated of an experiment.


A futile one. If he wants to waste his time go ahead, but I pity the fools that actually think his experiment has something of value ot add to any of the DE builds
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue

A futile one. If he wants to waste his time go ahead, but I pity the fools that actually think his experiment has something of value ot add to any of the DE builds


WTF man do wall and strong base work or not? You tell everyone you run across how they work. Nothing wrong with at least testing them.

IF they work why are you so worried about the test?

IF they work, they will work.
 
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Don't put points in wall just test strong base. Despite what biggerblue says wall has notta to do with sackz.
 
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Originally posted by direfire
Don't put points in wall just test strong base. Despite what biggerblue says wall has notta to do with sackz.


? Wall comes before strong base
 
BiggerBlue
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Originally posted by direfire
Don't put points in wall just test strong base. Despite what biggerblue says wall has notta to do with sackz.


Is that why DT who wants to have sacks need to up their Walls?

So many morons in this group, and what do you know, it's the same morons that complaints DE can't get sacks... go figure.
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by direfire

Don't put points in wall just test strong base. Despite what biggerblue says wall has notta to do with sackz.


Is that why DT who wants to have sacks need to up their Walls?

So many morons in this group, and what do you know, it's the same morons that complaints DE can't get sacks... go figure.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=461759&pbp_id=19807473

0 IN WALL MORON, you're the moron!!!!
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Originally posted by direfire
Don't put points in wall just test strong base. Despite what biggerblue says wall has notta to do with sackz.


Yes I have come to the conclusion that I will only up Strong base. So we are all in agreement Wall does nothing. There is no point in testing it. I was going to test it to show him up, because I KNOW it does nothing. But as long as we are all in agreement it does nothing, I will only test strong base.

He will get the str highest, then speed and agility.
He will either combo or bull rush.
I will find A.E. with strong base, and even push it up past 11.

That's what we are looking at, ATM.
 
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Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by direfire

Don't put points in wall just test strong base. Despite what biggerblue says wall has notta to do with sackz.


? Wall comes before strong base


We'll I think he meant don't put more points than necessary. I will pump strong base to 8, so wall will have to go to 4. I will find A.E> with strong base, maybe even two if I get lucky. Then get strong base way up there.
 
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I think this test will be awesome. The DE you are making will turn out to be better then jimmy johnson probably . I'm just kind of sad that the public will now know the secret to my next de's success :/.
 
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Originally posted by direfire
I think this test will be awesome. The DE you are making will turn out to be better then jimmy johnson probably . I'm just kind of sad that the public will now know the secret to my next de's success :/.


Your d.e. really isn't that successful. tbh
 
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hey boss I said my next DE. My de now was my first player, and I bet he is more successful then your first DE. Plus my ePenis is bigger then yours.
 
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Originally posted by direfire
hey boss I said my next DE. My de now was my first player, and I bet he is more successful then your first DE. Plus my ePenis is bigger then yours.


nah my first D.E. got more sacks in one season, than you have for a career. He never had wall or strong base.
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Yeah your first DE lvl 39 or whatever he was couldn't even get out of BBB LmaO. Speaking of which... how about them bulldogs .
 
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