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cwrujosh
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

You act like your team was just better than ours today, and that was not the case. You won the game because you picked a foolproof gameplan that gave us little to no chance to win, and you play with an extreme amount of roster depth advantage. So don't go around and act like your skill was so much better when that had nothing to do with what went on today.


No that was exactly the case. You were outgameplanned and outmanned. Seems to me that's exactly what being a better team is. It doesn't reflect on the quality of your team whatsoever. Everyone knows DDL is a top franchise. You just weren't today.

 
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Originally posted by cwrujosh
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


You act like your team was just better than ours today, and that was not the case. You won the game because you picked a foolproof gameplan that gave us little to no chance to win, and you play with an extreme amount of roster depth advantage. So don't go around and act like your skill was so much better when that had nothing to do with what went on today.


No that was exactly the case. You were outgameplanned and outmanned. Seems to me that's exactly what being a better team is. It doesn't reflect on the quality of your team whatsoever. Everyone knows DDL is a top franchise. You just weren't today.



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thehazyone
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It's simply not worth my time or effort to try and get into a war of words.

Good game TSE and DDL and best of luck next season. I apologize if I acted like a jerk -- it was not my intent.
 
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Originally posted by thehazyone
It's simply not worth my time or effort to try and get into a war of words.

Good game Hazy and LV and best of luck this season. I apologize if I acted like a jerk -- it was not my intent.


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LOL, I don't recall which episode that was!
 
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Originally posted by cwrujosh
You were outgameplanned and outmanned.

I definitely agree with that. They killed us on the run ratio and have about 2 dozen extra players. So no doubt on those 2 things.

But I disagree that is what a "better" team is. If you define "better" as he who wins the most games, then absolutely you are correct, but to me, and maybe I stand alone in this opinion, but to me there are more variables that go into the formula of what makes a "better" team in THIS GLB game. If this was a realistic football game I would be totally inclined to accept he who wins the most games as a definition of what a "better" team is.
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Originally posted by jktooley
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It is nice to win, but terrible to have to win like this.

I freaking hate this. I honestly think ***O*** would shine if the powerback unstoppable bug was fixed and the game was balanced. We've got some great players that completely are not utilized when we go all run. But its the only way to win right now.


I'm with you... I'm actually pretty thankful that you guys beat us and put an end to our Season 8... Felt like Groundhog Day... This was the first playoff game that I've ever skipped watching, and just went straight to the boxscore...

The hell of it was though, is that I had pretty much backed us into a strong I slam corner that I couldn't get out of... I'm just ready for next season.


Agreed, I was coming into the season so pumped to use all of OTR's offensive weapons but our great passing game was really underused and underappreciated. The sim plain sucked this season.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by cwrujosh

You were outgameplanned and outmanned.

I definitely agree with that. They killed us on the run ratio and have about 2 dozen extra players. So no doubt on those 2 things.

But I disagree that is what a "better" team is. If you define "better" as he who wins the most games, then absolutely you are correct, but to me, and maybe I stand alone in this opinion, but to me there are more variables that go into the formula of what makes a "better" team in THIS GLB game. If this was a realistic football game I would be more inclined to accept he who wins the most games as a definition of what a "better" team is.


I think Head to Head wins might be a pretty good measure.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by cwrujosh

You were outgameplanned and outmanned.

I definitely agree with that. They killed us on the run ratio and have about 2 dozen extra players. So no doubt on those 2 things.

But I disagree that is what a "better" team is. If you define "better" as he who wins the most games, then absolutely you are correct, but to me, and maybe I stand alone in this opinion, but to me there are more variables that go into the formula of what makes a "better" team in THIS GLB game. If this was a realistic football game I would be totally inclined to accept he who wins the most games as a definition of what a "better" team is.


So what exactly makes a team "better"? And how are we to measure who is "better"?
 
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You can't really fault anyone for pulling the 80% run gameplan this year. If you don't do it, your opponent probably will. Just pointing out how depressing it is that the sim has come to this. Seasons 6 and 7 seemed pretty balanced, not sure why Bort felt that we needed to devolve into a Strong I-fest.
 
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Originally posted by StrinG


So what exactly makes a team "better"? And how are we to measure who is "better"?


Well this is not exactly the best thread to get into a long discussion on THAT topic as it is way off topic of the original post. If you want to pick my brain, feel free to do it via PM if you really want to know what my opinions are, but in here, there's too much opportunity for people like CV to try and make a mockery out of my words and turn it into a flame fest and I'm not really interested in that. So I will give you a few basic premises of how I choose to look at the game, and will be willing to continue to discuss the matter further if there is an interest to do so, but if it turns out to be a flame-fest then you will have to just PM me from their on.

So, TO ME, a "better" team is the team that can go into a sim with "courage" by playing the game with a fair and equitable armament, meaning 71 players to 45, to me is a bunk contest. Yes I understand the point that other teams do it too, and that I could do it as well, and it's only to my team's winning detriment to not play that way as well, there's no disputing that teams like that are playing by the so-called "rules" but to me that's a rule that a "better" team is not going to take advantage of. I believe it is of elite "sportsmanship" to try and get the job done with a more realistic roster size that makes sense and is practical for actually utilizing the players in a proportion that rewards them for their time and money spent on the game. And that doesn't mean 53 men is the exact roster size, cause that is only for a REAL NFL team, and this is a totally different game.

Also, TO ME, a "better" team is one that can win by restricting an unrealistic level of running plays. And yes, again, i understand the argument that others make about wanting to be a run-first team, but in real football you can adapt to that differently than you can here, and in real football there is not the scope or magnitude of a "snowball effect" that spills over to the other sides of the ball to the degree that it does in GLB. And I understand the argument that others are going to do it and exploit it against you if you don't, but again TO ME, winning despite those that are cheap enough to do it is what is worth more for respect, and again that's just MY OPINION, so spare me for shouting how that is stupid because those that disagree about that have made themselves abundantly clear on that issue. And it's especially less impressive if you are choosing a high run rate while also enjoying the depth advantage.

I believe that OUR teams' roster size is the perfect number for OUR team. I too could have had a 70 man roster this offseason and got away without players wanting to leave, but TO ME that's not fulfilling to win like that and I would feel ZERO pleasure and ZERO pride if we won a trophy by having that kind of a roster size or that kind of a rushing ratio. Going to a LOT MORE than 45 players to me is a manufactured cheap advantage, and likewise playing with a LOT LESS would be just absolute suicide.
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thehazyone
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Wait?

TSE, are you calling me unsportsmanlike?

Just want clarification before I stop biting my tongue.

 
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Originally posted by thehazyone

TSE, are you calling me unsportsmanlike?


Yes, very much so, from MY perspective as an owner, not necessarily from the perspective of all owners, 'cause a lot of other owners don't feel the way I do as described in the commentary above. And I'm sure all of your players love you a lot and respect you a lot, and enjoy your outlook on the game and the way you play it.

People can feel free to harp on me and claim that I'm being a "bad sport" by stating these opinions, but to me it wasn't MY choice for YOU to play the game in an unsporting way, you chose that yourself, and I have a lot of personal pride for how I approach the game and thus I stand by my comments and opinions. I would be more than able to respect your game and call you "sporting" if you had made other choices in how you approach the game, and again more power to you for liking your style of play and being content with that, but in my opinion it's just not sporting the way that you chose to play the game.
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Originally posted by thehazyone
Wait?

TSE, are you calling me unsportsmanlike?

Just want clarification before I stop biting my tongue.



I am, Hazy....and if you don't bench 40 of your players, limit your running to 10%, take your passing QB off the TE slot (leaving him only in as the QB so you can't control when your running QB is in), play DTs as WRs and go with a 3-1-7 cover 3 deep zone, I'll call you unsportsmanlike again! (figured it was worth a shot)
 
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