Originally posted by Painmaker
Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx
Originally posted by Painmaker
Is it fair to say that any area where one team has an advantage over the Hammer is an "exploit?" As in, "the Carolina Hammer are really the best team out there and it's only deficiencies with the game engine that are keeping them back?"
Sorry man, but that's what it sounds like when you complain about every disadvantage. I'm sure you guys have some advantages as well to have gotten all the way to Pro, why not leverage those to their fullest while recognizing that other teams are going to leverage their own advantages? IMO it's not abusing the game to play to your strengths in order to beat your opponent... that's just competition. Crying in advance when you realize you're outmatched doesn't suddenly make your opponent a cheater, nor does it invalidate his subsequent victory. And no one is going to build or compete his team exactly according to your own vision of the "right" way to do it... playing competitors like that would be no different than playing solitaire anyway.
This is the same exploit that half of GLB is complaining about and that we stopped using once we realized it wasn't our rushing attack that was so good (its good, but not exceptional), but that it would work against any team that didn't badly outmatch us. I'm bored of watching the same game over and over.
Which exploit? Hazy having too many players? Or teams running the ball against your crappy run defense just like you ran it against DDL's crappy run defense? This isn't even a case of teams running just one play (Strong I HB Slam which is what many folks complain about), it's complaining about teams running a variety of plays involving a variety of backs (including QBs for crying out loud) and beating you consistently. One excuse might sound like a legitimate argument, but when you start coming in with excuses for every loss it sounds more and more like sour grapes. As to the "boring football" part, an awful lot of RL seasons (especially in college) have been completely dominated by rushing. Some folks still manage to find it entertaining.
I've got no real dog in this fight... I'm just letting you know what it sounds like to a relatively objective observer. I'm not talking about just this one thread, it's about the Hammer's history of complaining about losing. Begging people to not run against you once you realize you can't stop the run isn't exactly a noble way to compete. You won't see the Wolfpack "challenging" MEM to leave Csonka on the bench the next time we face them -- we'll try to find a way to stop him and if we can't, we'll acknowledge that they beat us fair and square (for reference: MEM already has a game in hand with their regular season victory, but until we wash out of the playoffs I'm reserving hope for redemption when it counts "for all the marbles!" Until then, those poo-flinging monkeys still have scoreboard).
Running is a huge part of football. Inability to stop the run has never been the hallmark of any successful team. Asking teams to please not run the ball isn't the way to become effective, either.
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Originally posted by Hukton Vioxx
Originally posted by Painmaker
Is it fair to say that any area where one team has an advantage over the Hammer is an "exploit?" As in, "the Carolina Hammer are really the best team out there and it's only deficiencies with the game engine that are keeping them back?"
Sorry man, but that's what it sounds like when you complain about every disadvantage. I'm sure you guys have some advantages as well to have gotten all the way to Pro, why not leverage those to their fullest while recognizing that other teams are going to leverage their own advantages? IMO it's not abusing the game to play to your strengths in order to beat your opponent... that's just competition. Crying in advance when you realize you're outmatched doesn't suddenly make your opponent a cheater, nor does it invalidate his subsequent victory. And no one is going to build or compete his team exactly according to your own vision of the "right" way to do it... playing competitors like that would be no different than playing solitaire anyway.
This is the same exploit that half of GLB is complaining about and that we stopped using once we realized it wasn't our rushing attack that was so good (its good, but not exceptional), but that it would work against any team that didn't badly outmatch us. I'm bored of watching the same game over and over.
Which exploit? Hazy having too many players? Or teams running the ball against your crappy run defense just like you ran it against DDL's crappy run defense? This isn't even a case of teams running just one play (Strong I HB Slam which is what many folks complain about), it's complaining about teams running a variety of plays involving a variety of backs (including QBs for crying out loud) and beating you consistently. One excuse might sound like a legitimate argument, but when you start coming in with excuses for every loss it sounds more and more like sour grapes. As to the "boring football" part, an awful lot of RL seasons (especially in college) have been completely dominated by rushing. Some folks still manage to find it entertaining.
I've got no real dog in this fight... I'm just letting you know what it sounds like to a relatively objective observer. I'm not talking about just this one thread, it's about the Hammer's history of complaining about losing. Begging people to not run against you once you realize you can't stop the run isn't exactly a noble way to compete. You won't see the Wolfpack "challenging" MEM to leave Csonka on the bench the next time we face them -- we'll try to find a way to stop him and if we can't, we'll acknowledge that they beat us fair and square (for reference: MEM already has a game in hand with their regular season victory, but until we wash out of the playoffs I'm reserving hope for redemption when it counts "for all the marbles!" Until then, those poo-flinging monkeys still have scoreboard).
Running is a huge part of football. Inability to stop the run has never been the hallmark of any successful team. Asking teams to please not run the ball isn't the way to become effective, either.
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