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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by phat_lyk_dat

Originally posted by whatje


from what i've read everybody who capped blocking regretted it, i could see confidence playing a big role though.


or vision...im thinking of taking it to the 2nd cap on my DT, to pass the vision check every time.


For what it's worth, I have a DT with nearly 70 vision and I definitely wish I had used those points elsewhere...


good to know, thx. im just not sure where to put my points at this point. i really dont wanna spend 4:1 for more SPD, and other than shed block(which even that may be broken) i dont trust any of the DT SA's.
 
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by direfire

lol meatdawg you can't be telling me they both have the same amount of SA's and VA's. Plus RDE almost always gets less sacks then LDE's.


I haven't seen anyone be productive at RDE, not at all.

Can anyone show me an RDE that is doing anything?


Mine is.. But he is in BBB as well
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

Originally posted by tautology


Originally posted by direfire



lol meatdawg you can't be telling me they both have the same amount of SA's and VA's. Plus RDE almost always gets less sacks then LDE's.


I haven't seen anyone be productive at RDE, not at all.

Can anyone show me an RDE that is doing anything?


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=420366


26 out of his 27 sacks are against gutted teams. Like I said many times, if people want to rack up sacks just ask your owner to "trade down"


those are not all gutted teams. they just crush their opponents. partly because of dee baller. and of course there's the play pottsman linked too which is a trick i'd like to learn how to repeat.
 
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don't be a "BiggerBlue", Darren.

255-0
Magnificent Bastards (avg lvl aprox 47)
North Bay Nighthawks (avg lvl 35 and many cpus)
9 sacks

112-0
Magnificent Bastards
Tuscaloosa Thunder (avg lvl aprox 37)
7 sacks

and 10 other sacks from games where you outlevelled opponents and outscored them 517-19...
 
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Originally posted by bluto
don't be a "BiggerBlue", Darren.

255-0
Magnificent Bastards (avg lvl aprox 47)
North Bay Nighthawks (avg lvl 35 and many cpus)
9 sacks

112-0
Magnificent Bastards
Tuscaloosa Thunder (avg lvl aprox 37)
7 sacks

and 10 other sacks from games where you outlevelled opponents and outscored them 517-19...


hey they asked for a guy who's performed well. And this guy has, period. The days of terrorizing opponents 10 levels above you are over. People are going to have to realize and a good RDE isn't going to do more than 2-3 tackles, a couple hurries, and maybe one sack a game.
 
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
Originally posted by bluto

don't be a "BiggerBlue", Darren.

255-0
Magnificent Bastards (avg lvl aprox 47)
North Bay Nighthawks (avg lvl 35 and many cpus)
9 sacks

112-0
Magnificent Bastards
Tuscaloosa Thunder (avg lvl aprox 37)
7 sacks

and 10 other sacks from games where you outlevelled opponents and outscored them 517-19...


hey they asked for a guy who's performed well. And this guy has, period. The days of terrorizing opponents 10 levels above you are over. People are going to have to realize and a good RDE isn't going to do more than 2-3 tackles, a couple hurries, and maybe one sack a game.


Bluto and his ass-sniffy puppy simply have to see a shrink or something. Don't know why they get personal in a game but somehow they do.

Anyway, another solid sack by my RDE against a LOT 5 levels higher (I'm sure bluto will post how this LOT is flawed: too slow, too fat, too ugly, too whatever)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=389154&pbp_id=16180236

Funny how I keep reading how RDE is destine to put up zeros against higher level players, but I keep getting quality sack after quality sack.

It's possible, myself and 40 other DEs in our "research pool" are proving it every night. Now I know why most of them don't think it's a good idea to share what we have found and just leave the rest of GLB DE owners to dry. Ignorant people like blutos and puppy are really making my endeaver to share information close to impossible.
 
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Originally posted by bluto
don't be a "BiggerBlue", Darren.

255-0
Magnificent Bastards (avg lvl aprox 47)
North Bay Nighthawks (avg lvl 35 and many cpus)
9 sacks

112-0
Magnificent Bastards
Tuscaloosa Thunder (avg lvl aprox 37)
7 sacks

and 10 other sacks from games where you outlevelled opponents and outscored them 517-19...


Funny, most of your sacks and puppy's sacks are against gutted opponents, but somehow your DEs are immune to such retorts.
 
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Originally posted by whatje
from what i've read everybody who capped blocking regretted it, i could see confidence playing a big role though.


based on a couple excellent DEs I've been fortunate enough to play with and have gone in opposite directions since the sim change, I think you might be on to something here.
Last edited Mar 28, 2009 11:06:22
 
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Originally posted by tautology
Originally posted by direfire

lol meatdawg you can't be telling me they both have the same amount of SA's and VA's. Plus RDE almost always gets less sacks then LDE's.


I haven't seen anyone be productive at RDE, not at all.

Can anyone show me an RDE that is doing anything?


From SEA AAA1

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=331522

and his LDE counterpart

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=142233
Last edited Mar 28, 2009 11:05:36
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by bluto

don't be a "BiggerBlue", Darren.

255-0
Magnificent Bastards (avg lvl aprox 47)
North Bay Nighthawks (avg lvl 35 and many cpus)
9 sacks

112-0
Magnificent Bastards
Tuscaloosa Thunder (avg lvl aprox 37)
7 sacks

and 10 other sacks from games where you outlevelled opponents and outscored them 517-19...


Funny, most of your sacks and puppy's sacks are against gutted opponents, but somehow your DEs are immune to such retorts.


my sacks like which...?

tbh, eric stratton rush chairman has been sacking on comparable levels all season. i count 6 of his 30 against guys that he outlevels by more than 3 levels at the time. might be a couple more in their i guess...but most are legit.

how about you go start another thread about how you pwn CPU OTs? is that what your alleged "research pool" is coming up with?

(ftr: i'm collaborating with some good agents too to find answers to 40+ DE issues... i have a feeling that the Bort pendulum will swing back this coming offseason and take OTs and Protector down a peg and render our suppsositions moot anyways...but just in case, we have 6 different builds working on this)

*edit*
5 more sacks by eric stratton rush chairman today against a LT that outlevelled him.
Last edited Mar 28, 2009 14:56:37
 
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Originally posted by bluto
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I can use your words of wisdom,also bro.
I have a DE and 2 DT.
Shoot me a pm anytime if you could.

Kiki

 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue


Funny, most of your sacks and puppy's sacks are against gutted opponents, but somehow your DEs are immune to such retorts.


Actually my level 39 D.T. has beat up some higher level guards this season for sacks. MY D.E. which I retired beat a couple of O.T.'s higher level for sacks. I can pull them up and post them if it helps.

My level 28 D.E. is built in my last D.E's shadow, which I retired. He is still doing fantastic. I am building him the same exact way I build my level 45 D.E. just better. So he still doesn't have Wall or strong base, and never will.

you are wasting people's time with that shit. You are in AA acting like you know everything about D.E's. I have seen one D.E. in the Pro leagues dominating higher level o.t's and getting his sacks. He doesn't have anything in wall and strong base.

It's not about you at all. You might be a good guy. You might be a smart guy. I don't know you. But you're going around spreading wall and strong base like a virus. You act like they really have something to do with getting sacks. I tell you None of my D.E's have EVER had any WALL or STRONG BASE, and they got sacks. Against all kinds of opponents, higher leveled or not. My only concern has always been the rate at which is has slowed down. I never had a problem with my builds. I had a problem of trying to figure out a way around the nerfs.

my level 45 D.E. has 70 str 90 speed and 100 agility, with 5-5-9-10-1 pass rush tree. He also had capped vision confidence and stamina. He got 80+sacks last year. when he was level 38 or 39 he was beating level 43's level 49's ect..ect... this season he had 21 sacks through 10 games, and he only beat 2 higher level tackles. Now I retired him. He shouldn't go from beating higher level tackles for at leats one sack a game, to not beating them hardly at all.

So recap. this isn't about you. It's never been about you. EVER. you're really a nobody. You're nothing to the community. you really have no idea yourself how your guy is getting sacks. You play a team with a starting level 45 tackle, but the back up is a level 49 cpu, and you beat the cpu and think you're special. WE ALL CAN BRO. even shitty d.e's beat the highest level cpu's

You're not telling us something we don't already know.

STR and agility helps shed a block.
Speed can help slip a block or sometimes avoid it all together.

vision helps you get a good jump confidence and stamina helps you play at a higher level longer, so when the Offensive linemen tire you have an even better chance to get a sack.

First step is pretty good
Change direction is really good
Shed Block was awesome, may have gotten nerfed. it's not so good anymore.
Tunnel vision was awesome at one point. maybe nerfed too.

Heavyweight is really good.

no, the containment ability wall and strong base won't do shit for you to get a sack. you understand containment abilities are for containment right? Not for getting sacks. Wall and strong base hardly activate on passing plays. You know this right? Or are you really that stupid to think you strong based a guy for a sack?

OK enough rant. this isn't about you. You give out wrong advice like people have not tried this shit. Experienced people on this game have tried everything. You think your little guy in AA is going to be the groundbreaking peice of the puzzle to save all d.e's as we know it? I doubt anything is really going to save us all, except to have better attributes than the tackle you're playing. Hope for a bad game plan. Or just get plain lucky.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by BiggerBlue



Funny, most of your sacks and puppy's sacks are against gutted opponents, but somehow your DEs are immune to such retorts.


Actually my level 39 D.T. has beat up some higher level guards this season for sacks. MY D.E. which I retired beat a couple of O.T.'s higher level for sacks. I can pull them up and post them if it helps.

My level 28 D.E. is built in my last D.E's shadow, which I retired. He is still doing fantastic. I am building him the same exact way I build my level 45 D.E. just better. So he still doesn't have Wall or strong base, and never will.

you are wasting people's time with that shit. You are in AA acting like you know everything about D.E's. I have seen one D.E. in the Pro leagues dominating higher level o.t's and getting his sacks. He doesn't have anything in wall and strong base.

It's not about you at all. You might be a good guy. You might be a smart guy. I don't know you. But you're going around spreading wall and strong base like a virus. You act like they really have something to do with getting sacks. I tell you None of my D.E's have EVER had any WALL or STRONG BASE, and they got sacks. Against all kinds of opponents, higher leveled or not. My only concern has always been the rate at which is has slowed down. I never had a problem with my builds. I had a problem of trying to figure out a way around the nerfs.

my level 45 D.E. has 70 str 90 speed and 100 agility, with 5-5-9-10-1 pass rush tree. He also had capped vision confidence and stamina. He got 80+sacks last year. when he was level 38 or 39 he was beating level 43's level 49's ect..ect... this season he had 21 sacks through 10 games, and he only beat 2 higher level tackles. Now I retired him. He shouldn't go from beating higher level tackles for at leats one sack a game, to not beating them hardly at all.

So recap. this isn't about you. It's never been about you. EVER. you're really a nobody. You're nothing to the community. you really have no idea yourself how your guy is getting sacks. You play a team with a starting level 45 tackle, but the back up is a level 49 cpu, and you beat the cpu and think you're special. WE ALL CAN BRO. even shitty d.e's beat the highest level cpu's

You're not telling us something we don't already know.

STR and agility helps shed a block.
Speed can help slip a block or sometimes avoid it all together.

vision helps you get a good jump confidence and stamina helps you play at a higher level longer, so when the Offensive linemen tire you have an even better chance to get a sack.

First step is pretty good
Change direction is really good
Shed Block was awesome, may have gotten nerfed. it's not so good anymore.
Tunnel vision was awesome at one point. maybe nerfed too.

Heavyweight is really good.

no, the containment ability wall and strong base won't do shit for you to get a sack. you understand containment abilities are for containment right? Not for getting sacks. Wall and strong base hardly activate on passing plays. You know this right? Or are you really that stupid to think you strong based a guy for a sack?

OK enough rant. this isn't about you. You give out wrong advice like people have not tried this shit. Experienced people on this game have tried everything. You think your little guy in AA is going to be the groundbreaking peice of the puzzle to save all d.e's as we know it? I doubt anything is really going to save us all, except to have better attributes than the tackle you're playing. Hope for a bad game plan. Or just get plain lucky.


Matterfact Puppy hahaha I dunno why that fits you. You can't pretend you know what you're talking about cause you're the same as biggerblue you claim all these sack numbers but you can never back them. Right now your DE Terror sucks. Perhaps he will be better in a few levels, but he sucks now. In this current age of GLB builds that are lvl 28 should suck, because you don't have any SA's.

BtW I have invested in Wall and Strong base, and got 47 sacks in AA last season and probably about 26-30 (leaving about 16 legit sacks) came from gut jobs. Just cause you like to be able to free up space for your LB's doesn't mean you can't get sacks too.
 
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Originally posted by bluto



*edit*
5 more sacks by eric stratton rush chairman today against a LT that outlevelled him.


Actually, you had 1 sack against a LT that outlevelled you and 4 against his backup who you outleveled by 2 levels. Way to check your facts.

Also, you are level 35 and only had 35 sacks in a BBB league. You really should not even try to give advice to anyone because that is pretty terrible man.
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