It'd be tough to keep most USAPL teams out of a Top 50 ranking. You'd even be able to make a case for some non-playoff teams in USAPL (West) being in the top 50.
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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
It'd be tough to keep most USAPL teams out of a Top 50 ranking. You'd even be able to make a case for some non-playoff teams in USAPL (West) being in the top 50.
Absolutely. Based on the rankings this morning Hedgehogs, Longhorns, Woodys and Gamblers all fall outside "playoff" spots. I'd say those teams are all competitive with the teams in the 20-40 range. For an idea of just how tough a "non-playoff" .500 USA Pro team can be compared to the rest of the world, check out Spicewood's tournament scrimmages.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1214
Longhorns laying the 'wood imo.
It'd be tough to keep most USAPL teams out of a Top 50 ranking. You'd even be able to make a case for some non-playoff teams in USAPL (West) being in the top 50.
Absolutely. Based on the rankings this morning Hedgehogs, Longhorns, Woodys and Gamblers all fall outside "playoff" spots. I'd say those teams are all competitive with the teams in the 20-40 range. For an idea of just how tough a "non-playoff" .500 USA Pro team can be compared to the rest of the world, check out Spicewood's tournament scrimmages.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1214
Longhorns laying the 'wood imo.
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I agree with your comments and your rankings look pretty good. You actually had us 3 spots higher than the main poll. I would be more apt to mentioning the losses to SpiceWood and Mata-Utu over the others. I give them more props, because they are the only 2 teams that have beaten us without running the ball more than us, so I'm not worried about the other losses, they don't hold much stock to me. And we did lose to the Benitos by 7 but they are a pretty strong team, but again they also had to run the ball more than us in order to beat us, if their play count was flipflopped the other way it could have been a different result.
And when I say run more, I don't mean just a few plays look at our other losses:
CAR - +49 runs on the box score (although obviously sacks are counted)
BA - +30 runs on the box score
SB - +13 runs only in box score (hence ONLY beat us by 7)
But for those first 2 above with the lopsided run count, that means nothing to me and isn't even worth mentioning as they don't deserve any props for beating us imo.
Welcome to season 8?
I agree with your comments and your rankings look pretty good. You actually had us 3 spots higher than the main poll. I would be more apt to mentioning the losses to SpiceWood and Mata-Utu over the others. I give them more props, because they are the only 2 teams that have beaten us without running the ball more than us, so I'm not worried about the other losses, they don't hold much stock to me. And we did lose to the Benitos by 7 but they are a pretty strong team, but again they also had to run the ball more than us in order to beat us, if their play count was flipflopped the other way it could have been a different result.
And when I say run more, I don't mean just a few plays look at our other losses:
CAR - +49 runs on the box score (although obviously sacks are counted)
BA - +30 runs on the box score
SB - +13 runs only in box score (hence ONLY beat us by 7)
But for those first 2 above with the lopsided run count, that means nothing to me and isn't even worth mentioning as they don't deserve any props for beating us imo.
Welcome to season 8?
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Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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No we really do try to win
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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No we really do try to win
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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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No we really do try to win
The bold part...
Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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No we really do try to win
The bold part...
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Originally posted by Painmaker
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
It'd be tough to keep most USAPL teams out of a Top 50 ranking. You'd even be able to make a case for some non-playoff teams in USAPL (West) being in the top 50.
Absolutely. Based on the rankings this morning Hedgehogs, Longhorns, Woodys and Gamblers all fall outside "playoff" spots. I'd say those teams are all competitive with the teams in the 20-40 range. For an idea of just how tough a "non-playoff" .500 USA Pro team can be compared to the rest of the world, check out Spicewood's tournament scrimmages.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1214
Longhorns laying the 'wood imo.
Thanks Pain....its been a wild and inconsistent season.
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
It'd be tough to keep most USAPL teams out of a Top 50 ranking. You'd even be able to make a case for some non-playoff teams in USAPL (West) being in the top 50.
Absolutely. Based on the rankings this morning Hedgehogs, Longhorns, Woodys and Gamblers all fall outside "playoff" spots. I'd say those teams are all competitive with the teams in the 20-40 range. For an idea of just how tough a "non-playoff" .500 USA Pro team can be compared to the rest of the world, check out Spicewood's tournament scrimmages.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1214
Longhorns laying the 'wood imo.
Thanks Pain....its been a wild and inconsistent season.
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Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
False
No we really do try to win
The bold part...
I got it the first time
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
It's not a GP issue for us. We actually do GP, but we essentially GP to lose by using them as pure test games, and I'll never stop approaching it that way. So, if we had played some scrims (and I'm planning on doing 1 or 2 yet this ssn), we'd probably not even make the top 25 LOL
What I don't get is that not playing scrims actually seems to piss some ppl off. If someone doesn't want to rank us because of that, I couldn't care less, but I just don't get why it seems to bug some ppl so much that have absolutely nothing to do with GB.
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
We try to win and yet we are still cool...Go figure
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No we really do try to win
The bold part...
I got it the first time
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
it's pretty much true unless it's a tourney game
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
it's pretty much true unless it's a tourney game
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Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by Painmaker
We've got both Minnesota and Bandar Lumpung coming up shortly, and I think they're each ranked a bit low for what they've done. Minnesota may have gotten off to a slow start but they're top 10 material imo. Wolfpack a bit high for what we've accomplished so far (ask me again next week!), and it's surprising to see OTR wasn't higher on more ballots.
Ya, it honestly does amaze me that they said we weren't even on some peoples ballots. I may be biased but ranking us anything lower than 25th is just flat out ignorant.
Honestly I think some people just forgot about you, or when they put "MM" down on their list they were thinking Minnesota Marauders but ended up with Mean Machine.
The lists are all pretty out there right now, with all the great tourneys going on it will be much more clear as the weeks go on.
Originally posted by Painmaker
We've got both Minnesota and Bandar Lumpung coming up shortly, and I think they're each ranked a bit low for what they've done. Minnesota may have gotten off to a slow start but they're top 10 material imo. Wolfpack a bit high for what we've accomplished so far (ask me again next week!), and it's surprising to see OTR wasn't higher on more ballots.
Ya, it honestly does amaze me that they said we weren't even on some peoples ballots. I may be biased but ranking us anything lower than 25th is just flat out ignorant
.Honestly I think some people just forgot about you, or when they put "MM" down on their list they were thinking Minnesota Marauders but ended up with Mean Machine.
The lists are all pretty out there right now, with all the great tourneys going on it will be much more clear as the weeks go on.
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MM not being on some ballots is a bad joke. Between the rankings and honorable mentions, you could make a case for 20 pro teams being listed somewhere in that post. Hell, we'll have teams that won't make the POs this ssn that are better than some of those teams, IMO.
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Originally posted by Painmaker
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
It'd be tough to keep most USAPL teams out of a Top 50 ranking. You'd even be able to make a case for some non-playoff teams in USAPL (West) being in the top 50.
Absolutely. Based on the rankings this morning Hedgehogs, Longhorns, Woodys and Gamblers all fall outside "playoff" spots. I'd say those teams are all competitive with the teams in the 20-40 range. For an idea of just how tough a "non-playoff" .500 USA Pro team can be compared to the rest of the world, check out Spicewood's tournament scrimmages.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1214
Longhorns laying the 'wood imo.
I hadn't noticed but that's a handful of VERY impressive scrimmage results (to include the 9-6 loss to WSI).
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
It'd be tough to keep most USAPL teams out of a Top 50 ranking. You'd even be able to make a case for some non-playoff teams in USAPL (West) being in the top 50.
Absolutely. Based on the rankings this morning Hedgehogs, Longhorns, Woodys and Gamblers all fall outside "playoff" spots. I'd say those teams are all competitive with the teams in the 20-40 range. For an idea of just how tough a "non-playoff" .500 USA Pro team can be compared to the rest of the world, check out Spicewood's tournament scrimmages.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1214
Longhorns laying the 'wood imo.
I hadn't noticed but that's a handful of VERY impressive scrimmage results (to include the 9-6 loss to WSI).
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
Eh, I game plan a little bit for scrimmages. No more then 30 minutes scouting, and 30 minutes in OAI modifications. If the scrim opponent needs more then that, oh well.
Originally posted by jktooley
Nope... Not a worry... I just don't get into friendlies the same way. The day I start gameplanning and setting tactics for a game that's not on our regular schedule is the day I burn out completely from GLB....
BTW, I don't buy for a second that 90% of teams don't GP to win scrims...I'm sure there are many, but I'd bet that there are more that do try to win than don't. It's just soooooooooooooooooooo much cooler to pretend a team didn't.
Eh, I game plan a little bit for scrimmages. No more then 30 minutes scouting, and 30 minutes in OAI modifications. If the scrim opponent needs more then that, oh well.
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