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youngHOOD
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Originally posted by thehazyone
I tried to do my rankings when I first came into the league and while I typically am not the kind to give a crap about what people say or think, the amount of bitching/whining/complaining about how/where I ranked a team took the fun out of it for me so I quit doing them.

I look forward to seeing your EC rankings PP. Maybe next season I'll start doing them again, but only EC this time as CV does a good job with the WC.




yeah that is stupid IMO. Be happy somebody is doing the rankings. Hes using up his time to make them right.
 
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Originally posted by xcoach2
Originally posted by PP




I hate what this forum has become this ssn almost as much as I hate this ssn's sim. It's become just one stupid ass thread after another, most just trying to get someone else pissed off or to inflate an ego. Good threads and posts have become the exception, where last ssn they were the majority.

I'll try to do an East rankings after today's game (though I'm sure mine weren't what you were referring to).


Seriously, (non flame) what constitutes a good post? I've been posting since season 1 in GLB forums and cannot remember many good posts nor do I come here for that. It's dotball for chrissakes, just thinking of a bunch of 30+ year old men (myself included) taking their dots so srsly is pretty funny to me.

I'm just trying to inject a little positivity in this forum to offset the negativity coming from HHW (mainly) and others. Wait'l you see the the rankings come out and all the negativity injected in to them. Yea, the sim is lol, we know it, but I'm not going to hold my butt over it and feel sorry for myself. I'm tired of the nerfs period, they're ruining the game.


I think most people would rather have a discussion on balancing the game rather than read through Compton's pokemon threads and Csonka's Evil Cheerleader threads. You're not gonna please all the people all the time, some love shit talk threads some love thoughtful discussion, that's just the way it is. I do agree that the nerf talk gets to be a bit much at times but its not like making a bunch of threads about how CEC found a part in the game that gives them a big advantage adds very much to intelligent chatter in here either.
Originally posted by xcoach2

Looks like they've been nerfed already. P Backs were way overpowered in S7, the numbers tell no lies. Csonka is avg'ing 2 yards less YPC in S8 (8.6 to 6.6), Shonn Greene is down from 7.3 YPC to 4.8. The power back issue was brought in S7 and there were those (including myself, Vegas) that were accused of making excuses. So, STFU and take your medicine you whiny bitches. Shit' didn't get out of hand until MEM went out and got the best P back in the game, now the cry babies are in full force including *sigh* bhall, And lol at HHW for crying about a running game exploit, that's some funny shit. Csonka has like 70+ stamina & 60+ confidence, you whiners need to get take you medicine and adjust your builds.


I'm pretty sure positivity isn't your goal, and if you think it is, you need to look up "positivity"

 
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Originally posted by PP


Everyone has their own taste and that's cool. Frankly, IMO, MEM made the USA Pro Forum about 100000000 times better when they came up. You guys balanced the seriousness in an important way. Now it's swung too far the other way, IMO. Outside of rankings and the every so exciting "GG ________" thread, just about everything else is some form of shit...Shit posts are great, but not when they make up the vast magority of all the threads, just like it sucked when nothing but serious threads sucked all the life and fun out of the forums the ssn before MEM arrived. Can't speak for Duff, but my post was merely an observation and comment.

All that siad, though, I could die happy if I never read another thread about Csonka




I understand, but I'd rather see pro-Csonka threads than anti-Csonka threads and the negative threads were piling up quick. I enjoy serious posts, rankings, funny posts, GG posts, even an occasional troll thread, but the "nerf this, nerf that" threads in bunches annoy me. Especially when we're only 1/3 into the season. Rather than grow tackling, strength, confidence, better your tactics, it's just easier to complain. OTR, Duff's team (in a scrimmage) & South Bay have held Csonka in check, those teams can tackle.
 
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Even talk about how to fix the game is depressing. You read through about 20 well thought out posts that would make things better, and you have zero confidence that any of them will ever be implemented.

There are a multitude of people from US Pro that Bort could hire on a consultant TODAY, that would immediately make GLB better.

And most of the suggestions have to do with common business sense and nothing to do with the sim/nerfs.

It seems like the only one who doesn't know how to improve GLB as a business (and make it more enjoyable for more of it's customers) is Bort.

 
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Originally posted by remus7x


I'm pretty sure positivity isn't your goal, and if you think it is, you need to look up "positivity"



I think you're officially riding my nuts now. I feel violated to a degree.
 
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Originally posted by xcoach2
Originally posted by PP



Everyone has their own taste and that's cool. Frankly, IMO, MEM made the USA Pro Forum about 100000000 times better when they came up. You guys balanced the seriousness in an important way. Now it's swung too far the other way, IMO. Outside of rankings and the every so exciting "GG ________" thread, just about everything else is some form of shit...Shit posts are great, but not when they make up the vast magority of all the threads, just like it sucked when nothing but serious threads sucked all the life and fun out of the forums the ssn before MEM arrived. Can't speak for Duff, but my post was merely an observation and comment.

All that siad, though, I could die happy if I never read another thread about Csonka




I understand, but I'd rather see pro-Csonka threads than anti-Csonka threads and the negative threads were piling up quick. I enjoy serious posts, rankings, funny posts, GG posts, even an occasional troll thread, but the "nerf this, nerf that" threads in bunches annoy me. Especially when we're only 1/3 into the season. Rather than grow tackling, strength, confidence, better your tactics, it's just easier to complain. OTR, Duff's team (in a scrimmage) & South Bay have held Csonka in check, those teams can tackle.


Nerfing threads never do anything for me either. As I've written several times now in various places, outside of the stamina issue, I think PBs are about what they should be. Instead, allow situational subbing on D and finish off the D Play creator. Do those things, make it so no back can carry for shit over 30 or 40 times and no one has a right to bitch, IMO. Tragically, Bort will most likely nerf PBs instead, just because it's the quick fix and he needs to please the nerf mob.

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Originally posted by The Duff Man
Even talk about how to fix the game is depressing. You read through about 20 well thought out posts that would make things better, and you have zero confidence that any of them will ever be implemented.

There are a multitude of people from US Pro that Bort could hire on a consultant TODAY, that would immediately make GLB better.

And most of the suggestions have to do with common business sense and nothing to do with the sim/nerfs.

It seems like the only one who doesn't know how to improve GLB as a business (and make it more enjoyable for more of it's customers) is Bort.



The blocking schemes are awful in this game and there will always be problems unless they're addressed. I have 10 years coaching experience at the college and Texas HS level and I offered in the bugs forum to help out with schemes but never heard back.
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by xcoach2

Originally posted by PP




Everyone has their own taste and that's cool. Frankly, IMO, MEM made the USA Pro Forum about 100000000 times better when they came up. You guys balanced the seriousness in an important way. Now it's swung too far the other way, IMO. Outside of rankings and the every so exciting "GG ________" thread, just about everything else is some form of shit...Shit posts are great, but not when they make up the vast magority of all the threads, just like it sucked when nothing but serious threads sucked all the life and fun out of the forums the ssn before MEM arrived. Can't speak for Duff, but my post was merely an observation and comment.

All that siad, though, I could die happy if I never read another thread about Csonka




I understand, but I'd rather see pro-Csonka threads than anti-Csonka threads and the negative threads were piling up quick. I enjoy serious posts, rankings, funny posts, GG posts, even an occasional troll thread, but the "nerf this, nerf that" threads in bunches annoy me. Especially when we're only 1/3 into the season. Rather than grow tackling, strength, confidence, better your tactics, it's just easier to complain. OTR, Duff's team (in a scrimmage) & South Bay have held Csonka in check, those teams can tackle.


Nerfing threads never do anything for me either. As I've written several times now in various places, outside of the stamina issue, I think PBs are about what they should be. Instead, allow situational subbing on D and finish off the D Paly creator. Do those things, make it so no back can carry for shit over 30 or 40 times and the problem no one has a right to bitch, IMO. Tragically, Bort will most likely nerf PBs instead, just because it's the quick fix and he needs to please the nerf mob.



I think the gang tackling is pretty shit atm, too, but otherwise I agree.

Powerbacks should not squirt through 5 defenders to fall down for an extra 4+ yards. I think the sim needs primary and secondary tacklers, where the secondary tacklers just add +Tackle to the primary guy.

Or something.
 
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Originally posted by xcoach2
Originally posted by remus7x



I'm pretty sure positivity isn't your goal, and if you think it is, you need to look up "positivity"



I think you're officially riding my nuts now. I feel violated to a degree.


I prefer the term tr0lling. Had to read too many idiotic csonka posts to not do it. If you will notice though the majority of the post wasn't tr0lling

In all seriousness though I cannot see positivity in your quote from my previous post. It starts off with valid points with statistical analysis to back it up, but then turns into name calling.
 
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Originally posted by xcoach2

The blocking schemes are awful in this game and there will always be problems unless they're addressed.


You can't be saying that it makes no sense to pull the RG all the way across the line to lead block on a weak side sweep when he stands no chance of getting there until the HB is already tkled, can you? Or that the same RG, who is standing alone, not helping pass blk anyone (issue right there), shouldn't watch the SS run by untouched and sack the QB?

Speaking of which, I'm flat out amazed that Bort posted in Pain's thread about PBs being nerfed without notice that he hadn't made any changes to the sim since his 2/20 changelog post, yet the RGs are now picking up the blitzing SS better and 6 seperate issues posted in this thread after 2/20 were edited on 2/23 & 3/3 to say fixed. I'm so confused. Bort says he's changed nothing since 2/20. So, how did these issues get fixed after that? I refuse to believe that Bort would even be less than honest.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2138085

 
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Originally posted by remus7x
Originally posted by xcoach2



I think you're officially riding my nuts now. I feel violated to a degree.


I prefer the term tr0lling. Had to read too many idiotic csonka posts to not do it. If you will notice though the majority of the post wasn't tr0lling

In all seriousness though I cannot see positivity in your quote from my previous post. It starts off with valid points with statistical analysis to back it up, but then turns into name calling.


Yes, but when you're riding my nuts in my troll thread, you're the one getting trolled. We've all been guilty of name calling at one time or another, a little name calling laced with emotion shouldn't tarnish a well thought out post.
 
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Originally posted by xcoach2
Originally posted by remus7x

Originally posted by xcoach2




I think you're officially riding my nuts now. I feel violated to a degree.


I prefer the term tr0lling. Had to read too many idiotic csonka posts to not do it. If you will notice though the majority of the post wasn't tr0lling

In all seriousness though I cannot see positivity in your quote from my previous post. It starts off with valid points with statistical analysis to back it up, but then turns into name calling.


Yes, but when you're riding my nuts in my troll thread, you're the one getting trolled. We've all been guilty of name calling at one time or another, a little name calling laced with emotion shouldn't tarnish a well thought out post.


I don't have a problem with name calling, it's just hard to take someone seriously when they are doing it.

P.S. If you're going to make a troll thread, counter trolling is perfectly acceptable, willing to dish it but not take it kind of a deal.
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by xcoach2


The blocking schemes are awful in this game and there will always be problems unless they're addressed.


You can't be saying that it makes no sense to pull the RG all the way across the line to lead block on a weak side sweep when he stands no chance of getting there until the HB is already tkled, can you? Or that the same RG, who is standing alone, not helping pass blk anyone (issue right there), shouldn't watch the SS run by untouched and sack the QB?

Speaking of which, I'm flat out amazed that Bort posted in Pain's thread about PBs being nerfed without notice that he hadn't made any changes to the sim since his 2/20 changelog post, yet the RGs are now picking up the blitzing SS better and 6 seperate issues posted in this thread after 2/20 were edited on 2/23 & 3/3 to say fixed. I'm so confused. Bort says he's changed nothing since 2/20. So, how did these issues get fixed after that? I refuse to believe that Bort would even be less than honest.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2138085



Pulling the backside guard on a sweep in not a terrible idea (most sweeps were blocked that way prior to the early 90's), but you have to sync/timing the backfield motion with the play design so that the Guard can get out in front. My current favorites (sarcasm) are the pitches to the FB out of the I form. I don't have an issue so much with the Guard not recognizing the SS, some blitzes need to go unnoticed, they can't all be picked up.
 
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If you selected the over you're a winner today men: http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=373225
 
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55 carries?

seriously?

how gay
 
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