Warrior General Games

Im going to start by saying that this is MY guy you are ripping apart. I dont believe for a second that hes DPOTY, but its nice to have fury arguing that. Honestly, hes not even the best LB I have on the vikings.

However, you are saying that because he tackles after a miss, its somehow not a tackle? thats absurd. Thats called making tackles when they NEED to be made.

I ESPECIALLY like how you started cutting and pasting to prove a point, then realized you were wrong then changed the point you were making without stopping to edit your old one. 3 out of 13 coming after missed tackles? what the hell is that supposed to prove?

He does run backwards alot, but its not a big cushion intentionally, it just looks that way because hes twice as fast as your tight end. He runs back because, as you state, there is something to be desired on the defense tackling wise, and he goes to play mop up alot. Thats what he does, it doesent make him less of a LB or make his tackles somehow not count.

I do agree though that the general should be the DPOY over him, as his tackles did tend to mean more.

As for backing off the tight end against Michigan:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=149909&pbp_id=7676553 Your tight ends got 50 yards in the game. Then they got popped. I will trade 50 yards given up to the TE position for a turnover any day. Enough said about that. If your TE was a bit quicker, he might have gotten some picks out of that. Hell take the FF though.

I do have a question, if you didnt account for him in your gameplan, who DID you account for? cause it sure looked like maybe you should have accounted for him from looking at the highlight reel. We didnt have much of anyone else do much. Surely you know how to game plan, right?

No offense, but you have the right point, but your logic is full of crap.

Oh yeah, it looks like hes leaving the vikings, so it doesent REALLY matter, but watch what he does next year. Its going to be scary.

youre asking if sanderval knows how to offensive gameplan? seriously?

and how fast is he? just curious..

Originally posted by hoax
youre asking if sanderval knows how to offensive gameplan? seriously?

and how fast is he? just curious..

No, im agreeing that he does, pay attention.

and clearly quite a bit faster than the TEs he was covering.

Again, I mean no harm, but the man was clearly out of line in attacking my player and clearly mistaken in his faulty logic. That was my only point. I have no idea how good or smart he is, but in this case, hes simply wrong.

And for the record, as stamina overload is also mine, I can assure you that they play the EXACT SAME TACTICS and he is inferior to powers in every attribute.

Originally posted by xeef
Originally posted by hoax

youre asking if sanderval knows how to offensive gameplan? seriously?

and how fast is he? just curious..

No, im agreeing that he does, pay attention.

and clearly quite a bit faster than the TEs he was covering.

Again, I mean no harm, but the man was clearly out of line in attacking my player and clearly mistaken in his faulty logic. That was my only point. I have no idea how good or smart he is, but in this case, hes simply wrong.

im not hating on you for defending your player.. 40 tackles more than anyone else in the league is impressive in my book. but the whole 'surely you know how to game plan right?' statement coming after a game where he put up 900 yards on an undefeated team in the conference finals is just silly.

im genuinely curious to see if your guy is faster than my two olbs, bill and vick, thats the only reason i asked. you could pm me if your not comfortable saying it on the boards.

yeah, that was more of an attack on his logic thatn his game planning. coulda been stated better.

All i'm saying, is that he got a lot of stats, at the expense of yards given up to the other team. If your goal is to get huge stats and lose, yay for you. If the goal is to not always get great stats but impact the outcome of the game, then he's not the guy. Like i said.. it's all in how you define player of the year. I think me and hoax have said repeatedly now that the guy has great stats.. but wth is the good of stats if you don't help your team win? It's like Kobe bryant.. he's an offensive monster, but he would cost his team wins, because his stats, could mean that his team overall, was less effective. I'd gladly give up 100 tackles to anyone on Hoax's team if it meant we won. Would that make his player the "defensive player of the game"? By your definition, yes. And if that's your definition, then you are more than welcome to it, because i'd rather have the win, than the individual accolade.

I don't think any playoff team has had a problem blowing out the vikings.. so you're welcome to annoint your self all the awards you want, if that's the cost of getting them.

Originally posted by Sanderval
All i'm saying, is that he got a lot of stats, at the expense of yards given up to the other team. If your goal is to get huge stats and lose, yay for you. If the goal is to not always get great stats but impact the outcome of the game, then he's not the guy. Like i said.. it's all in how you define player of the year. I think me and hoax have said repeatedly now that the guy has great stats.. but wth is the good of stats if you don't help your team win? It's like Kobe bryant.. he's an offensive monster, but he would cost his team wins, because his stats, could mean that his team overall, was less effective. I'd gladly give up 100 tackles to anyone on Hoax's team if it meant we won. Would that make his player the "defensive player of the game"? By your definition, yes. And if that's your definition, then you are more than welcome to it, because i'd rather have the win, than the individual accolade.

I don't think any playoff team has had a problem blowing out the vikings.. so you're welcome to annoint your self all the awards you want, if that's the cost of getting them.

So you blew us out this year...Big Deal! When you have most of your guys playing on both sides of the ball for the majority of the season, I don't expect too many wins. But you know what go run the ball 95% of the time every game like you always do. It'll only get you so far.

Again refer to my youtube post. Dr. House explains it best!

Originally posted by wildfury5
But you know what go run the ball 95% of the time every game like you always do. It'll only get you so far.

I think that was funnier to me than you had intended it to be

Thats cool. I like be funny!

I might say a lot in these forum thread but I come in and look. Its like people watching. I get to laugh everyday.

My definition of DPOTY would be

1. Best player on a good defense
2. Player that Makes an impact on every game his is in
3. A player that could change the scheme of teams he plays against


it doesnt have to be in that order .. this would eliminate most players who are on teams that give up 100s of points