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Galkuris
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B.) The advantage may not be there now if you had excess cash but you can't tell me it wouldn't have mattered early on. You have an extra million in season one, and use it on one more stadium upgrade, which then brings in even more than you would have. This leads to a snowball effect. So the advantage may not be there "now" but you can't say it didn't help "then".


And that is just logic, I have no idea what went on at all, but the argument you just used had a huge flaw in it.
 
purehatred
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What went on is that in Season 1 TSE sold "advice" to new owners in exchange for cash (IIRC with CPUs being the in-game commodity that got moved around)

That's why he built his stadium faster and like Galkuris said, the effect snowballed: bigger stadium = more revenue = more money to expand stadium again, repeat, etc.

I don't know if the money helped him recruit but it certainly gives him way more flexibility in terms of equipment, etc.

And if he wanted he could pretty easily have the deepest team in the game just by throwing his cash around the marketplace.
 
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Ya, wasn't to hard to figure out how to sell CPU's. Unlike TSE I actually told Bort how outrageous it was that we could sell them for so much. AKA why it got changed.


Your welcome.
 
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Galkuris, purehatred, come on now. What TSE did was sooooooooo "in the spirit of the game". It was beyond ridiculous for me to compare it to my purposefully buying a B league team during the sale 1/2 way through season 1 (bought B just because I actually wanted to have to claw my way up to get to the Pros). Of course, I soon found that there were only 3 players on that team that were active and didn't want to play for "friends' teams."

Facing game 1 with a roster overflowing with CPUs, I committed the gravest of all possible GLB sins. After my little BBB team (later moved to AA during the league tree creation) recruited like crazy, only to get 2 more players to show for it, I was faced with a choice. I had absolutely no desire to have a team overflowing with my own players, but, damn my NOT "in the spirit of the game" attitude, I wanted a team of CPUs even less. So, I started creating the players to cover my team. Since then, slowly, but surely, I've added the types of players I wanted whenever I could, including the only response I got from multiple "teams looking for players threads” (adding a then lvl 1 WR to an ave 18 lvl team...He's still here, btw). I've lost a couple along the way, but am now up to 10 other agents, not counting myself, and am continuing to try to add more. Why? Because I NEVER wanted a team of mostly my own players and still don't!

So if TSE wants to say we’re "not in the spirit of the game" and one of "those teams" that’s fine. He’s entitled to his opinion just like anyone else is (and I'm sure some others feel the same, and I don't think they're completely off base for it). I’m also entitled to mine, that he’s a hypocritical, ultra arrogant ass.
 
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TSE is the biggest fisher in GLB. There is no way his posts are serious.
 
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Originally posted by Galkuris
B.) The advantage may not be there now if you had excess cash but you can't tell me it wouldn't have mattered early on. You have an extra million in season one, and use it on one more stadium upgrade, which then brings in even more than you would have. This leads to a snowball effect. So the advantage may not be there "now" but you can't say it didn't help "then".


And that is just logic, I have no idea what went on at all, but the argument you just used had a huge flaw in it.


That's ridiculous. No kidding that money is technically a "positive" thing to have. But the amount of money we had in every season, not one year were we able to do something that we wouldn't have been able to do with an average amount of money. We have never, EVER signed anybody that we couldn't have signed with a LOT less money, and equipment costs were never remotely high enough in cost at any level that a lot less money wouldn't have covered. We have 120M in cash and equipment fund now, we surely didn't gain 120M in "snowball effects".
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Originally posted by PP
Galkuris, purehatred, come on now. What TSE did was sooooooooo "in the spirit of the game". It was beyond ridiculous for me to compare it to my purposefully buying a B league team during the sale 1/2 way through season 1 (bought B just because I actually wanted to have to claw my way up to get to the Pros). Of course, I soon found that there were only 3 players on that team that were active and didn't want to play for "friends' teams."

Facing game 1 with a roster overflowing with CPUs, I committed the gravest of all possible GLB sins. After my little BBB team (later moved to AA during the league tree creation) recruited like crazy, only to get 2 more players to show for it, I was faced with a choice. I had absolutely no desire to have a team overflowing with my own players, but, damn my NOT "in the spirit of the game" attitude, I wanted a team of CPUs even less. So, I started creating the players to cover my team. Since then, slowly, but surely, I've added the types of players I wanted whenever I could, including the only response I got from multiple "teams looking for players threads” (adding a then lvl 1 WR to an ave 18 lvl team...He's still here, btw). I've lost a couple along the way, but am now up to 10 other agents, not counting myself, and am continuing to try to add more. Why? Because I NEVER wanted a team of mostly my own players and still don't!

So if TSE wants to say we’re "not in the spirit of the game" and one of "those teams" that’s fine. He’s entitled to his opinion just like anyone else is (and I'm sure some others feel the same, and I don't think they're completely off base for it). I’m also entitled to mine, that he’s a hypocritical, ultra arrogant ass.


Or you're jealous, that's my opinion.
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
TSE is the biggest fisher in GLB. There is no way his posts are serious.


Wrong. Plus I don't like fishing. When I want fish, I go to a restaurant and order it. Fishing isn't my style, I prefer things delivered to me on a plate.
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

That's ridiculous. No kidding that money is technically a "positive" thing to have. But the amount of money we had in every season, not one year were we able to do something that we wouldn't have been able to do with an average amount of money. We have never, EVER signed anybody that we couldn't have signed with a LOT less money, and equipment costs were never remotely high enough in cost at any level that a lot less money wouldn't have covered.


That's all probably true.

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We have 120M in cash and equipment fund now, we surely didn't gain 120M in "snowball effects".


Giant advantage that increased exponentially.

 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


Or you're jealous, that's my opinion.


I've got a team in Canada A that was on the short end of the half season home game stick their 1st season that still can't afford EQ because of it (we started with all lvl 1-4 players at min contracts and haven't wasted a cent). They sure could use some of that pocket change. Why don't ya PM Bort and see if he'd let you transfer, oh, say, around 50 mil of that worthless stuff. I'd ask for more, but don't want to be greedy

 
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The cash will matter when everyone hits level 40 and upgrades cost 800,000 a piece. If you have 40 people on your team, it will cost 96 million for all of them to upgrade 3 pieces, 128 million to upgrade 4 pieces, and new stadium upgrading options are coming soon as well. At level 48, when equipment costs 3.2 million apiece to upgrade, it will cost 384 mil for everyone to upgrade 3 pieces, 512 for everyone to upgrade 4 pieces. Bort may lower equipment cost though before that happens because I don't think he took it into account since he never originally intended for their to be a game XP and nightly XP cap like there is (i.e. players will end their career at a higher level than he anticipated).
 
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That's fine and dandy, but it doesn't help with the contentions by the above posters that have claimed we have already realized an advantage.
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert



Or you're jealous, that's my opinion.


I've got a team in Canada A that was on the short end of the half season home game stick their 1st season that still can't afford EQ because of it (we started with all lvl 1-4 players at min contracts and haven't wasted a cent). They sure could use some of that pocket change. Why don't ya PM Bort and see if he'd let you transfer, oh, say, around 50 mil of that worthless stuff. I'd ask for more, but don't want to be greedy



What's your point with this comment, and why would I want to transfer you money? Do you just like bumping threads with irrelevant fluff? Post something that has a point with regard to what's being discussed, posts like this are probably against forum rules in some way, because they provide nothing of value and waste people's time.
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Actually, it has a lot to do with the thread. I thought it was pretty obvious, but I guess I'll have to explain it to you. A ton of extra cash may mean nothing to teams that have it (though I don't buy that either), but cash means almost EVERYTHING to those that don't have enough. I was making that point even further by inferring that if it was useless, like you have been implying that your massive surplus of cash is, why would you have anything against giving it away to a team that needs it? OBVIOUSLY, I didn't expect you to agree (and it couldn't happen anyway)...It was only to make a point. I thought you were sharper than this. I guess I overestimated you. I'll try not to do that again.
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Originally posted by PP
Actually, it has a lot to do with the thread. I thought it was pretty obvious, but I guess I'll have to explain it to you. A ton of extra cash may mean nothing to teams that have it (though I don't buy that either), but cash means almost EVERYTHING to those that don't have enough. I was making that point even further by inferring that if it was useless, like you have been implying that your massive surplus of cash is, why would you have anything against giving it away to a team that needs it? OBVIOUSLY, I didn't expect you to agree (and it couldn't happen anyway)...It was only to make a point. I thought you were sharper than this. I guess I overestimated you. I'll try not to do that again.


Our team had cash regardless of any trades we made, so your point isn't relevant. You were contending that our team had some massive advantage because of our cash amounts, when in actuality we didn't have any advantage of any remotely significant degree because of our cash. There was NOTHING that we were able to do that we woudln't have done if you took away and "cash gains" from any moves we made. You are not a very bright communicator or debater, I highly recommend for you to go away before you continue to embarrass yourself in this conversation further.
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