Warrior General Games

'Collusion' - Two or more people working together to build up one team at the expense of another.

'Gutting' - Buying a team, stripping it of its resources and then selling the team back for the next poor sucker to buy.

8. CHEATING

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Originally posted by Billsman
Going by the other teams reactions in this league no one is happy. We all sent Bork pm's stating that too. I guess we'll see soon enough.

If I was an owner, I'd feel the same way. There is already enough collusion/farm teams/cheating going on so if I saw this I'd just assume everyone is guilty because 9 times out of 10, you'd be correct.

Thing is, from checking the previous post where Mamba81 was marketing himself, all I can come up with is he gutted his team like a dickhead (sorry man, thats the way I see it) and AlCapown was lucky enough to sign him and his friends.

EDIT: this is the post I'm referring to above http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=192828

Like I said, I cleared the release of players with Bort before I sold and before I knew they were going where I was.

Message other owners in the league and get their feelings, clearly we may have to reverse this asap, but we can hold out.

Bort told me I could release the players as long as I didin't gut the team of money, which I didn't.

Originally posted by mgse
Originally posted by Billsman

Going by the other teams reactions in this league no one is happy. We all sent Bork pm's stating that too. I guess we'll see soon enough.

If I was an owner, I'd feel the same way. There is already enough collusion/farm teams/cheating going on so if I saw this I'd just assume everyone is guilty because 9 times out of 10, you'd be correct.

Thing is, from checking the previous post where Mamba81 was marketing himself, all I can come up with is he gutted his team like a dickhead (sorry man, thats the way I see it) and AlCapown was lucky enough to sign him and his friends.

EDIT: this is the post I'm referring to above http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=192828

I guess only time will tell. If this is allowed I'm not going to play any longer, why waste my money and time trying to build a team and players only to have this happen. I would encourage every other owner or player to do the same. If you truly care about this situation and game you'd pm Bork and tell him how you feel and what you think should happen.

Originally posted by Mamba81
What is the definition of gutting a team now? Not even half to players on my team came to this league, so should I have kept everyone under contract on my team when I sold it to avoid "gutting" it. the guy who bought it fully understood nearly no human players would be on it, there was no harm done there.



take a look at your old team. Their highest lvl is what now? 9th or 10th level. They are starting a bunch of lvl 4s and 6s in a AAA league. And the chemistry is in the crapper. Sure you ONLY took the top 30% of the team. You gutted the heart out of that team.

To come down 4 levels to the lowest level competition in the USA leagues. Such bravery. Such Courage. Bravo sir. Bravo.

Originally posted by Mamba81
Like I said, I cleared the release of players with Bort before I sold and before I knew they were going where I was.

Message other owners in the league and get their feelings, clearly we may have to reverse this asap, but we can hold out.

Bort told me I could release the players as long as I didin't gut the team of money, which I didn't.

But you do see that something is wrong doing it like you guys did, right? Why not send 10 AAA guys to the D league and really clean house?

Originally posted by Billsman
Originally posted by mgse

Originally posted by Billsman


Going by the other teams reactions in this league no one is happy. We all sent Bork pm's stating that too. I guess we'll see soon enough.

If I was an owner, I'd feel the same way. There is already enough collusion/farm teams/cheating going on so if I saw this I'd just assume everyone is guilty because 9 times out of 10, you'd be correct.

Thing is, from checking the previous post where Mamba81 was marketing himself, all I can come up with is he gutted his team like a dickhead (sorry man, thats the way I see it) and AlCapown was lucky enough to sign him and his friends.

EDIT: this is the post I'm referring to above http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=192828

I guess only time will tell. If this is allowed I'm not going to play any longer, why waste my money and time trying to build a team and players only to have this happen. I would encourage every other owner or player to do the same. If you truly care about this situation and game you'd pm Bork and tell him how you fell and what you think should happen.

If you guys think this was breaking the rules fine voice your opinions. Just dont do it in the matter of a 10 year old child. Im tired of reading through all this BS.

If bort cleared this, why is it even a problem. He obviously thought it was according to the rules. I dont think Mamba did anything wrong, he simply found he did not have the time to own a team anymore and decided to go with his friends to a new team as players.

Oh snap, with all those offers of various teams to decide from, why was alcapown's the one that stood out? What kind of juicy PM was that? Why didn't you just trade your guy to an equalled leveled team and be a #1 WR there?

Originally posted by RiderzFan22
Originally posted by Billsman

Originally posted by mgse


Originally posted by Billsman



Going by the other teams reactions in this league no one is happy. We all sent Bork pm's stating that too. I guess we'll see soon enough.

If I was an owner, I'd feel the same way. There is already enough collusion/farm teams/cheating going on so if I saw this I'd just assume everyone is guilty because 9 times out of 10, you'd be correct.

Thing is, from checking the previous post where Mamba81 was marketing himself, all I can come up with is he gutted his team like a dickhead (sorry man, thats the way I see it) and AlCapown was lucky enough to sign him and his friends.

EDIT: this is the post I'm referring to above http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=192828

I guess only time will tell. If this is allowed I'm not going to play any longer, why waste my money and time trying to build a team and players only to have this happen. I would encourage every other owner or player to do the same. If you truly care about this situation and game you'd pm Bork and tell him how you fell and what you think should happen.

If you guys think this was breaking the rules fine voice your opinions. Just dont do it in the matter of a 10 year old child. Im tired of reading through all this BS.

If bort cleared this, why is it even a problem. He obviously thought it was according to the rules. I dont think Mamba did anything wrong, he simply found he did not have the time to own a team anymore and decided to go with his friends to a new team as players.

Well, for one I think we'd like some confirmation from this Bort charecter on this issue. Secondly, we'd like to see this magical thread in which these guys were supposedly posted as being available to all. Third, why not trade for them?? Awful fishy when they are released and then picked up for nothing. Fourth, if releasing at least 10 quality players from a team is not gutting, please tell me what is? Seriously....if that isn't gutting, then what is?

Originally posted by Yard Dog
Oh snap, with all those offers of various teams to decide from, why was alcapown's the one that stood out? What kind of juicy PM was that? Why didn't you just trade your guy to an equalled leveled team and be a #1 WR there?

Actually when i signed with Alcapowns team it was the Email that won me over too. He handled it very professionally and showed me that he was dedicated. I got like 30 offers and his stood out to me too.

I believe they are refering to this thread Shacky http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=192828

Originally posted by RiderzFan22
Originally posted by Billsman

Originally posted by mgse


Originally posted by Billsman



Going by the other teams reactions in this league no one is happy. We all sent Bork pm's stating that too. I guess we'll see soon enough.

If I was an owner, I'd feel the same way. There is already enough collusion/farm teams/cheating going on so if I saw this I'd just assume everyone is guilty because 9 times out of 10, you'd be correct.

Thing is, from checking the previous post where Mamba81 was marketing himself, all I can come up with is he gutted his team like a dickhead (sorry man, thats the way I see it) and AlCapown was lucky enough to sign him and his friends.

EDIT: this is the post I'm referring to above http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=192828

I guess only time will tell. If this is allowed I'm not going to play any longer, why waste my money and time trying to build a team and players only to have this happen. I would encourage every other owner or player to do the same. If you truly care about this situation and game you'd pm Bork and tell him how you fell and what you think should happen.

If you guys think this was breaking the rules fine voice your opinions. Just dont do it in the matter of a 10 year old child. Im tired of reading through all this BS.

If bort cleared this, why is it even a problem. He obviously thought it was according to the rules. I dont think Mamba did anything wrong, he simply found he did not have the time to own a team anymore and decided to go with his friends to a new team as players.

And if you don't like to read it then don't. They cheated, they were busted, we don't like it and we're trying to get the teams banned or kicked out of the league.

Originally posted by Billsman
And if you don't like to read it then don't. They cheated, they were busted, we don't like it and we're trying to get the teams banned or kicked out of the league.

I'll agree that Mamba81 dropped a lot of players, which by my definition is gutting.

But by using the word they I assume you mean AlCapown is also cheating. How did AlCapown cheat?

Originally posted by RiderzFan22
I believe they are refering to this thread Shacky http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=192828

huh??? This talks about one player being released at seasons end. Where is it mentioned that 10 are going to be released and signed mid-season???