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Originally posted by RayRay99
What are other unranked teams?

I will take Compare with t.u. for $200, Alex.


(Psst. Notre Dame finished ranked. Jus' sayin'.)
 
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Originally posted by RayRay99
Damnit, I had a long link filled reply to Kapaa, but my work computer crashed. Anyway, here is cliff notes version:

1. You are living off of past glory and failing to recognize the present.

2. Y'all had the #5, 3, 2, and 2 recruiting classes from 2009-2012. Y'all sucked with them. We have done more with less, and now that we are getting even more talent in we will continue to widen the gap.

3. Most everyone recognizes our fans >>>> your fans
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2013/10/the-five-most-beloved-fanbases-in-college-football/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1732224-college-football-teams-with-the-best-fanbases/page/17
http://mashable.com/2013/07/22/college-football-best-fans/
http://elitedaily.com/sports/greatest-college-football-student-sections-nation/

4. Click on the link http://www.kylefield.com and witness the transformation of Kyle into the unquestionably best stadium in the country.
Or, click here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5gc0bC9Srw

5. We are talking about football, but our academics rank very highly as well, we are also AAU, etc. We also have a law school and medical school now, so I am not sure what that is in reference to.





God, you are so aggie.

1. You're using a very biased version of "the present." You're also assuming that A&M's recent "success" (using that term loosely) and UT's recent lack of success is a trend and not an anomaly.

Over the past 10 years, A&M has gone:
4-8
7-5
5-6
9-4
7-6
4-8
6-7
9-4
7-6
11-2
9-4

During that time, A&M has zero conference championships, zero national championships, zero BCS bowl wins, and only three wins versus Texas.

In that same time Texas has gone:

10-3
11-1
13-0
10-3
10-3
12-1
13-1
5-7
8-5
9-4
8-5

During that time Texas has two conference titles, a national title, and three BCS bowl wins, and six wins versus A&M (including the most recent win).

Looking at the teams' records, you can see that the records considered poor for Texas over the past few years are about where A&M normally sits and would be considered a "good" season for A&M on average. When looking at their records over this time period, you can see that the 5-7 Texas season is anomalous as is the 11-2 A&M season.

So is it more likely that A&M is on an upward trend and that Texas is on a downward trend, or is it more likely that these past few seasons are somewhat anomalous and both teams will regress towards the mean? Given that Texas has replaced the coach whose complacency lead at least in part to the anomalous seasons and A&M has lost the QB whose career strongly correlates to A&M's anomalous season (not to mention your best WR and OL), I think its more likely to be the latter.

The way you are acting now is the exact same way I've seen aggies act in their previous 9 wins seasons, thinking that they were on the verge of being great. But that never happened and I don't see it happening here. I hope you enjoyed your two "glory seasons" going 11-2 and 9-4 without any championships, because you're likely to regress to the A&M mean and see a lot more 6, 7, and 8 win seasons.

2. See the above. We might have underperformed relative to our normal levels and the talent we recruit, but you haven't done less with more. Outside of one 11 win season, you've been mediocre over the past 10 years. We also have a new coaching staff that by all accounts does a great job of recruiting and developing talent, so I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch as it pertains to you "widening the gap."

3. Most everyone recognizes your fans as possibly the most delusional fanbase in college sports. That doesn't mean that your fans are good fans. I've seen plenty of empty seats at Kyle field during your normal years. You're riding a surge from the SEC change combined with Manziel. With him gone, you're likely to regress to the mean and we'll see how supportive your fans are then. From what I've seen, during your normal seasons your 2%ers take up a much larger portion of your fanbase than 2%.

4. Now this is just lulzy. Did they ever find a way to get rid of the crickets and bat shit?

5. You have a Dr. Nick's upstairs law school and a decent med school. Texas has one of the top law schools in the country and is in the process of creating what will end up being one of the top med schools in the country. Texas is unquestionably the top overall academic institution in Texas (though Rice may be better in their niche).
 
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LHF is murderin Ray in this thread as consistently as UT murdered Aggies
 
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Originally posted by Novus
How 'bout one with Notre Dame vs Michigan instead?


both teams suck, why talk about teams that suck

the A&M/UT discussion has been pretty good entertainment
 
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Originally posted by jtrav21
LHF is murderin Ray in this thread as consistently as UT murdered Aggies


LOL, all he says is nuh-uh, we're texas. we're good still, y'all have always sucked.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

1. You're using a very biased version of "the present."


PRESENT
pres·ent
ˈprezənt/

noun
noun: present; noun: the present

the period of time now occurring.
"they are happy and at peace, refusing to think beyond the present"
synonyms: now, today, the present time/moment, the here and now
Edited by RayRay99 on Jan 10, 2014 12:00:47
 
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Originally posted by RayRay99
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1913879-ap-college-football-poll-2014-post-bcs-championship-rankings-released

A&M - 2-4 against top 25 teams
t.u. - 1-3 against top 25 teams.

More wins and games against ranked opponents. So we ended up with more quality wins and a better schedule, you can't get anything right, can you?


I noticed this was ignored.
 
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Originally posted by RayRay99
PRESENT
pres·ent
ˈprezənt/

noun
noun: present; noun: the present

the period of time now occurring.
"they are happy and at peace, refusing to think beyond the present"
synonyms: now, today, the present time/moment, the here and now


If that is your definition of the present, then nothing either team did even in this most recent season matters since that is the past.

But that's not what you've been doing in this thread. You've been considering the present to be the most recent two-four years (depending on which argument you are trying to make), because those years suit you. And as I said above, you're assuming that, if that time is the time period of relevance, the achievements of both teams are trends and not anomalies. You've done nothing to prove otherwise and the facts that I have presented give credence to the argument that the past few seasons have been anomalies and that things will return to the status quo.

Originally posted by RayRay99
I noticed this was ignored.


I ignored it because it was so dumb that I though you were being sarcastic. You're arguing that going 2-4 against top 25 teams is amazing and makes A&M a top team but going 1-3 versus top 25 teams means UT sucks. You're also equating a schedule with more top 25 teams to a more difficult schedule while neglecting to account for the timing of those games and all of the non-top 25 games. When A&M gets an extra 1-2 buy weeks per season because they actually play FCS teams, that counterbalances the more games they have to play against top 25 teams.

In short, your argument made absolutely no sense and was incredibly stupid. That is why I ignored it.

Also, one of those top 25 wins was Duke. It's just laughable that you are using that in an argument.
 
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Originally posted by jtrav21
LHF is murderin Ray in this thread as consistently as UT murdered Aggies


In other words, he was murdering him in this thread 3+ years ago but has been getting murdered in this thread for the last 2 years?
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I ignored it because it was so dumb that I though you were being sarcastic. You're arguing that going 2-4 against top 25 teams is amazing and makes A&M a top team but going 1-3 versus top 25 teams means UT sucks. You're also equating a schedule with more top 25 teams to a more difficult schedule while neglecting to account for the timing of those games and all of the non-top 25 games. When A&M gets an extra 1-2 buy weeks per season because they actually play FCS teams, that counterbalances the more games they have to play against top 25 teams.

In short, your argument made absolutely no sense and was incredibly stupid. That is why I ignored it.

Also, one of those top 25 wins was Duke. It's just laughable that you are using that in an argument.


I am not saying we were a top team this season, after 4 losses that would be silly. I said we were better than y'all, which is true based on your definition given when trying to justify how the sips were as successful or better this season. Y'all get more than 1-2 bye weeks per season based on the fact y'all play in the Big XII. Despite the weak OOS and your "strong" OOS, our strength of schedule is still higher, so that argument is invalid. We don't have to try propping up our schedule because our conference sucks.
 
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Originally posted by TrevJo
In other words, he was murdering him in this thread 3+ years ago but has been getting murdered in this thread for the last 2 years?


I seem to remember that the last time the two teams played, UT won. So I'm not sure where you're going with this argument.

Originally posted by RayRay99
I am not saying we were a top team this season, after 4 losses that would be silly. I said we were better than y'all, which is true based on your definition given when trying to justify how the sips were as successful or better this season. Y'all get more than 1-2 bye weeks per season based on the fact y'all play in the Big XII. Despite the weak OOS and your "strong" OOS, our strength of schedule is still higher, so that argument is invalid. We don't have to try propping up our schedule because our conference sucks.


And I'm saying that your claim to be better is a false claim. UT and A&M did not play. UT and A&M were not in the same conference. UT and A&M did not play the same schedule. UT and A&M earned similar records with each team having one win over a ranked opponent this season. A&M played more top level teams (and lost to them) but A&M also had a much lower bottom of their schedule (FCS crap). Your argument that A&M is better than UT is groundless and full of bias. Your argument that A&M is the flagship is just downright stupid.

Originally posted by RayRay99
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1655346-most-delusional-fan-bases-in-college-football/page/4


You continue to link bleacherreport like it doesn't suck shit through a straw. That website is a joke of attempted journalism. That article is a perfect example.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
You continue to link bleacherreport like it doesn't suck shit through a straw. That website is a joke of attempted journalism. That article is a perfect example.



I'll have to agree with this.

 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I seem to remember that the last time the two teams played, UT won. So I'm not sure where you're going with this argument.


I'm saying you've got nada from 2012 on and this post of yours doesn't help.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
And I'm saying that your claim to be better is a false claim. UT and A&M did not play. UT and A&M were not in the same conference. UT and A&M did not play the same schedule. UT and A&M earned similar records with each team having one win over a ranked opponent this season. A&M played more top level teams (and lost to them) but A&M also had a much lower bottom of their schedule (FCS crap). Your argument that A&M is better than UT is groundless and full of bias. Your argument that A&M is the flagship is just downright stupid.


We didn't play y'all because y'all are a bunch of chicken shit pussies that quit the rivalry out of spite. Y'all played OU for many more years OOC than in conference, so that point is moot. We did not play the same schedule, nobody does. Our schedule was more difficult by those who measure strength of schedule. We have wins over 2 ranked teams, Duke and Vandy.

My argument that A&M is better than tu is grounded by these facts:

A&M had a better record
A&M had a more difficult schedule
A&M is ranked higher

We can't compare head to head because y'all took your ball and went home when we said we would make accomodations to our schedule to keep playing. Y'all said your schedule was full, but have since scheduled games with UCLA and cancelled a series with Minnesota, so one could only assume y'all are avoiding us out of spite, fear, or a combination of the two.

Now, please tell me how these facts that support my statement are full of bias. Did I inflate our record? Did I make the tu schedule weaker? Do I control the collegiate football rankings? If you can show me where any of those are true, I will promptly shut up and head to Vegas to make some outrageous bets with my newly discovered powers.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
You continue to link bleacherreport like it doesn't suck shit through a straw. That website is a joke of attempted journalism. That article is a perfect example.



Originally posted by Bleacher Report

This is another example of a program with a rich history and out of touch fans.

The Longhorns have done everything they can to return to the national spotlight lately, except win football games.

Things like the Longhorns Network are an attempt to make the brand a national draw again. But Texas is in a struggling conference and on the edge of falling to mediocrity in the next few years.

Texas fans always expect a national title, and they believe that their program should be serious contenders for one every year. When the Longhorns don’t live up to their fan's expectations, excuses follow.

No matter where you are in the country, Hookem’ signs are well recognized and can be seen in an airport near you on a daily basis.


How was that article incorrect?
 
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