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Billsman
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Originally posted by Mamba81
General Terms, can you quit insinuating and warping my words. Bort approved me cutting the players from my team as long as I didin't strip the team from cash. I left the team with about 6 mil in cash.

I never asked about the signing because I hadn't figured that out yet. Your dealing with this is immature. I have been respectful and I hope you will be too from here on out.


Let's see, we catch you cheating, call you out on it you lie about things and you expect everyone to be cool? We all spent money and built our teams the honest legit way and along you come, drop 10 AAA players into a BBB league and they all just happen to land on the same team.

That's funny.
 
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Question for Alcapown: What did the players (and starters) on your team think when they were suddenly replaced in the middle of the season?
 
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I dont know too much about this situation, but what I can say is both Alcapown and Mamba81 are great people and are very dedicated to this game. I dont think they would do anything to diminish the integrity of this game and league. Alcapown saw an opportunity and went for it. He was lucky enough to get the players. I am sure Mamba informed his team on what was going on.

If there was gutting (which i dont think their was) It was obviously not on purpose and I dont think you can penalize these good people for it. These guys are models of what i would like everyone on GLB should be, they are both great owners, great players, dedicated to the game, and are very good people.

Dont accuse people if you dont know all the facts.
 
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Originally posted by meohmy
Question for Alcapown: What did the players (and starters) on your team think when they were suddenly replaced in the middle of the season?


I was one of those players and I didnt mind at all. I play this game for fun, I enjoy talking with my teammates and seeing my teammates do well in the game. I would gladly pass up my starting roll to one of these guys.
 
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Originally posted by RiderzFan22
I dont know too much about this situation, but what I can say is both Alcapown and Mamba81 are great people and are very dedicated to this game. I dont think they would do anything to diminish the integrity of this game and league. Alcapown saw an opportunity and went for it. He was lucky enough to get the players. I am sure Mamba informed his team on what was going on.

If there was gutting (which i dont think their was) It was obviously not on purpose and I dont think you can penalize these good people for it. These guys are models of what i would like everyone on GLB should be, they are both great owners, great players, dedicated to the game, and are very good people.

Dont accuse people if you dont know all the facts.


cheaters and liars are the model for GLB?
 
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Originally posted by RiderzFan22
I dont know too much about this situation, but what I can say is both Alcapown and Mamba81 are great people and are very dedicated to this game. I dont think they would do anything to diminish the integrity of this game and league. Alcapown saw an opportunity and went for it. He was lucky enough to get the players. I am sure Mamba informed his team on what was going on.

If there was gutting (which i dont think their was) It was obviously not on purpose and I dont think you can penalize these good people for it. These guys are models of what i would like everyone on GLB should be, they are both great owners, great players, dedicated to the game, and are very good people.

Dont accuse people if you dont know all the facts.


Looks like we have a lot of the facts right here.
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Originally posted by Mamba81
Wow you guys are serious, I mean were a little higher levels, butits not like we have walked our way through games. If this was going to incite a riot I would never have done it.

How about we talk about it and work it out before calling 911 and filing lawsuits.


why is it you nor he has yet to provide this link to the magical post you made in the forum claiming all these players were available???
 
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Originally posted by shacky21
Originally posted by Mamba81

Wow you guys are serious, I mean were a little higher levels, butits not like we have walked our way through games. If this was going to incite a riot I would never have done it.

How about we talk about it and work it out before calling 911 and filing lawsuits.


why is it you nor he has yet to provide this link to the magical post you made in the forum claiming all these players were available???


It only exists in their dreams.
 
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Originally posted by Billsman
Originally posted by RiderzFan22

I dont know too much about this situation, but what I can say is both Alcapown and Mamba81 are great people and are very dedicated to this game. I dont think they would do anything to diminish the integrity of this game and league. Alcapown saw an opportunity and went for it. He was lucky enough to get the players. I am sure Mamba informed his team on what was going on.

If there was gutting (which i dont think their was) It was obviously not on purpose and I dont think you can penalize these good people for it. These guys are models of what i would like everyone on GLB should be, they are both great owners, great players, dedicated to the game, and are very good people.

Dont accuse people if you dont know all the facts.


Are you even in our division? No? Stay out.


Actually I am... Im on there team. Billsman if you dont have any intelligent conversation to make then you Stay Out.
 
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I wasn't offering all of those players. I was offering my own player.

Al said he was in need of some players and said he could accomodaate some of us so I took him up on his offer. I asked the guys from my message board if they wanted to follow me where I went and they accepted.

If there is something wrong about that then can figure something out.
 
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Originally posted by meohmy
Question for Alcapown: What did the players (and starters) on your team think when they were suddenly replaced in the middle of the season?


A few weren't very happy

As a Chattanooga player, probably biased, here is my opinion

Whether Bort approved it or not, what Mamba81 did was pretty...ok, not sure of the swear word filters here, so I'll use the word crappy. I'm on 1 gutted team already and we're guaranteed to get smoked the rest of the season. I can see why he did what he did, but I sure as hell don't agree with it.

As far as collusion/cheating, unless someone can prove AlCapown conspired with Mamba81 to bring over a bunch of high level players, its not collusion/cheating. Its scanning the FAs and making a good pitch, but not cheating. It upsets the previous balance, but not cheating.

So, assuming AlCapown lured over a bunch of FA due to his charm, the only person who should get crapped on here is Mamba81 for gutting his former team.

 
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Originally posted by An Angry T Rex
Originally posted by RiderzFan22

I dont know too much about this situation, but what I can say is both Alcapown and Mamba81 are great people and are very dedicated to this game. I dont think they would do anything to diminish the integrity of this game and league. Alcapown saw an opportunity and went for it. He was lucky enough to get the players. I am sure Mamba informed his team on what was going on.

If there was gutting (which i dont think their was) It was obviously not on purpose and I dont think you can penalize these good people for it. These guys are models of what i would like everyone on GLB should be, they are both great owners, great players, dedicated to the game, and are very good people.

Dont accuse people if you dont know all the facts.


cheaters and liars are the model for GLB?


I can't wait for the GLB billboard with their pics on it.
 
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Originally posted by RiderzFan22
Originally posted by Billsman

Originally posted by RiderzFan22


I dont know too much about this situation, but what I can say is both Alcapown and Mamba81 are great people and are very dedicated to this game. I dont think they would do anything to diminish the integrity of this game and league. Alcapown saw an opportunity and went for it. He was lucky enough to get the players. I am sure Mamba informed his team on what was going on.

If there was gutting (which i dont think their was) It was obviously not on purpose and I dont think you can penalize these good people for it. These guys are models of what i would like everyone on GLB should be, they are both great owners, great players, dedicated to the game, and are very good people.

Dont accuse people if you dont know all the facts.


Are you even in our division? No? Stay out.


Actually I am... Im on there team. Billsman if you dont have any intelligent conversation to make then you Stay Out.


How long have you been in the BBB division?
 
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Originally posted by General Terms
Originally posted by sting004

Answer one question, did you trade for these players? Or were they released to FA, then you signed them all? If its the latter, that is gutting, and you shouldn't be defending yourself. If you did the former, and traded valuable assets of your team to balance the trade, then you have a point. So lets hear an answer.


Sting they explained this earlier. You had to read several pages back but if you start at the beginning and work your way forward they told us (I think it was Alcapown actually) that he found this guy Mamba who wanted to get rid of his players because he no longer was interested in the team and they both agreed these players should join Alcapown's team. And so Mamba released 10 players whom Alcapown then signed the same day as their release. They couldnt be traded to Alcapown's team because the trade imbalance system would have prevented it. To be fair the owners of the individual players had to be in on it to sign Alcapown's contract offers. That is assuming the players aren't owned by these said same two people using multiple accounts. The owner of the team the players came from then sold the team to another guy berift of the high level talent staffed by mostly CPUs. If this had been done small scale ie ONE guy saying cut me i want to go to my friends team or something of that nature i dont think anybody would have had such a problem with it. However this case clearly violates Bort's, the almighty creator of GLB, definition of collusion and gutting. And i quote 'Collusion' - Two or more people working together to build up one team at the expense of another, and 'Gutting' - Buying a team, stripping it of its resources and then selling the team back for the next poor sucker to buy. I hope this brings you up to speed Sting.

BTW, why didnt Slash ever just axe Axel Rose with his Gibson so he could play for a real band?


Okay that clears it up, he did gut then. All I need to know.

Axl might be a dick but he's a genious. Slash is wasting his talent away on Velvet Revolver while Axl is actually creating a good album (though, its taken what, 12 years to release? haha) Shame they let drama kill them.
 
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Originally posted by mgse
Originally posted by meohmy

Question for Alcapown: What did the players (and starters) on your team think when they were suddenly replaced in the middle of the season?


A few weren't very happy

As a Chattanooga player, probably biased, here is my opinion

Whether Bort approved it or not, what Mamba81 did was pretty...ok, not sure of the swear word filters here, so I'll use the word crappy. I'm on 1 gutted team already and we're guaranteed to get smoked the rest of the season. I can see why he did what he did, but I sure as hell don't agree with it.

As far as collusion/cheating, unless someone can prove AlCapown conspired with Mamba81 to bring over a bunch of high level players, its not collusion/cheating. Its scanning the FAs and making a good pitch, but not cheating. It upsets the previous balance, but not cheating.

So, assuming AlCapown lured over a bunch of FA due to his charm, the only person who should get crapped on here is Mamba81 for gutting his former team.



Going by the other teams reactions in this league no one is happy. We all sent Bork pm's stating that too. I guess we'll see soon enough.
 
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