Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Anarcho
Originally posted by Boogie21

????? This solves them all? Not allowing players to pick what they want? Sounds a lot like restrictions to me. Isn' this supposed to be fun, and aren't we supposed to be able to build what we want?

Again, you can't have a balanced game if you allow free reign on the choices.

There are just certain things that will lead to ultimate cookie cutter builds.

There are basically three options:

1. Allow no choices. Make all players the same.

2. Allow some choices. Some players are the same.

3. Allow all choices. All players eventually choose to be the same.

Number 3 is the most popular choice (myself included) but it isn't reasonable and it certainly isn't good for the game.

We currently have ZERO choices for our players. This will allow us at least some level of customization.

I disagree with your evaluation or number three, with all the speed freaks on this game. Personally I'm more into Vision. I do however see your point, thank you for the clarification.

Originally posted by jtrav21
Originally posted by LC311

Originally posted by Catch22


I asked Bort about that a couple weeks ago - NGTH.

I don't understand how something as easy as this could end up on the NGTH list, especially with the creation of this new system. Custom slots already exist for nearly everything already. How can it be difficult to add the remaining custom slots?



It isn't difficulty. The supposed problem is that once defense gets more custom slots, the offense will have to have them too which leads to massive unbalance in the game.

I disagree, but that appears to be the stance.

Originally posted by arteryman
I skipped ahead a couple 10's of pages, but why isn't there a fake WR build?

Use the speedster archetype, ldo.

Originally posted by Catch22
Ugh I hate to say it to you but "go away, no"

It was all discussed (almost to the point of insanity). We had a Combo OL build but just couldn't make it work without it being overpowered. There is still plenty of potential for OL diversity.

OK thanks - read through the thread to here and saw that discussion re-iterated.

The idea of like a pulling SPECIALIST o-line intrigued me is all. Built for pulling, downfield blocking, screens, etc. Could introduce speed into that without making an overpowered o-line, by majorly sacrificing strength/blocking.

Major: speed, agility, vision
Minor: strength, blocking, stamina or confidence

But OK, no suggestions on new/different archtypes Thanks!!

Originally posted by Xcesiv7
"Hi guys,
I'm going to make the sacrifice for the team and go more balanced with my build so I can serve as a backup at ILB, along with OLB."
-me in S6 with my since-retired LBer due to recruiting issues with my team in Canada AAA2.

"Hi guys,
I'd love to help out by trying to backup both spots, but am kinda hog-tied due to the archetype I picked at the creation of mah dude. Who knew that I wouldn't know exactly how a team would need me 6 months down the road?"
-hypothetical me in S20-ish with this system.
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"Hi,
I'm a new player and I chose this certain archetype and hogtied myself into this specific role and I can't find a team."
-Newbie320 (sure hope that's not an actual username)

Anyway, just my $.02 but I wouldn't listen to me either.

[ ] gets it
[X] doesn't get it

you're not hog tying yourself - don't get caught up in the label - well built LB's of ANY of the archetypes - will be good players for ANY LB job

Originally posted by telencephalon
Until one of you guys figures out how to fix the division structure and the gutted/developing teams and the 255-0 scores, seriously what difference does this make?

polishing a turd amirite?!

Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Will current players get to pick an archetype and get the ALGs awarded?

Pretty sure that's a yes.

Originally posted by mikeandbrooke07
will we be told at least before the playoffs end if this will happen or not? that way owners can properly plan their team for next season

Assume it will happen - if for some reason it won't, I'll let everyone know the minute I find out.

Originally posted by TxSteve
Originally posted by Xcesiv7

"Hi guys,
I'm going to make the sacrifice for the team and go more balanced with my build so I can serve as a backup at ILB, along with OLB."
-me in S6 with my since-retired LBer due to recruiting issues with my team in Canada AAA2.

"Hi guys,
I'd love to help out by trying to backup both spots, but am kinda hog-tied due to the archetype I picked at the creation of mah dude. Who knew that I wouldn't know exactly how a team would need me 6 months down the road?"
-hypothetical me in S20-ish with this system.
======================================================================================

"Hi,
I'm a new player and I chose this certain archetype and hogtied myself into this specific role and I can't find a team."
-Newbie320 (sure hope that's not an actual username)

Anyway, just my $.02 but I wouldn't listen to me either.

[ ] gets it
[X] doesn't get it

you're not hog tying yourself - don't get caught up in the label - well built LB's of ANY of the archetypes - will be good players for ANY LB job

I've never been able to make a true OLB work in my 3-4 at ILB. Maybe I'm a bad DC? Probably. But, I just thought I'd point that out.

Originally posted by Mat McBriar
There was discussion of more O-Line archetypes, but the difficulty was in finding a balance (can't just have an obvious archetype that trumps the others at it's position for all purposes). I agree that I'd like to see a more pulling guard oriented archetype, but it hasn't happened.

Right OK, as I just posted.

The only way to make it happen would be to massively turn down the incentive to use this archtype anywhere else. Make the str/blk both minors so no non-pulling specialist in their right midn would use it. Or maybe that isn't the spirit of these, anyway, to have easy choices...

Originally posted by Catch22
Assume it will happen - if for some reason it won't, I'll let everyone know the minute I find out.

fair enough, thanks

Originally posted by Catch22


I'm surprised no one has said thanks for the 300 flex for player creation btw. I thought that was nice of us.

Sweet now I can build a WR who won't be able to catch passes until he hits level 45... (yes Im that bad at building crap bag WRs..)

Originally posted by telencephalon
Until one of you guys figures out how to fix the division structure and the gutted/developing teams and the 255-0 scores, seriously what difference does this make?

Do you know how to fix it? I'm all ears - please pm the solution to me.

Think of the archetypes as being the focus of the build, not the entire build.