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Originally posted by Alcapown
Shacky, cheap tactic? Its called recruiting, I saw a post for a lot of high caliber players, and I went for it, I did nothing wrong, cheap, or juvenile. I have nothing to do with what he does with his team, and hes a good guy so I would highly doubt he didnt give them the chance to get our or anything like that. And Lef Grebo, he owns it now, but if you look back, or heck even ask an admin you will see it was formally owned by Mamba, like I said he didnt want it anymore, he realized he didnt have the time required to be an owner. And it wasnt my intention nor did I have any realization of it at all for the Mambas to be gutted. ANY owner here that wouldve saw the post for these kind of players wouldve pounced in a heart beat, and you would be lieing if you deny it. I did nothing wrong, I had nothing to do nor did I have knowledge of what the future of his team was gonna be other than he was giving it to someone else to run. And shacky you say they left for nothing, they left because they like what I stood for, the team, our forums etc, and they liked the league we are in, and if you consider that nothing, you should not be a team owner.



you recruited no one. recruiting is what is done with FREE AGENTS. the only one you recruited is the now poof gone former owner of that AAA team.
 
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Originally posted by winchester
Originally posted by General Terms

Originally posted by Alcapown


Well, I dont know how you define gutting exactly, but he is passing ownership of the team in the post season, and him and his guys wanted off, but ya I see what you are saying, but as far as using someone elses log in ID, I think that is wrong lol, and not on par with whats going on here, but I understand what you are saying, but when I talked to Mamba, saw his post, and heard he is passing ownership, I didnt look at it from the perspective of gutting his team, I looked at if from what my perspective, and I think any owner in this league wouldve loved to have gotten these guys, I put my cards on the table, and opposed to the hundreds of offers he had to choose from, he picked mine, and some of his guys followed some didnt, but I think any owner would have done the exact same thing. I dont see the wrong on MY part. I had a great teal for my team, I didnt gut a team, thats not my decision. But I understand what you are saying, I just dont want to be labeled a cheater when I did nothing against the reals that would constitute calling me a cheater. And I think you can agree with that. But I see what you are saying.


you dont see anything wrong with this situation? how about the new owner of the AAA team who is going to inherit the cash and garbage you sent over for the crew of ringers?


He did not trade for these guys, they were all FA's.


So they were all released and picked up instead of traded. Shows even more sign of collusion because a FA can be picked up for cheap whereas the trade system forces you to give something in return.
 
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well....i initially thought he traded for these guys, then it was explained to me that the trade machine would have balanced the trade. I'd have less issue if that was the case. But, he did get these guys off the FA wire, and whenever I sign someone from FA I do factor in if they have other players I might be able to acquire. I think we all do. The AAA team was gutted no doubt, and the person who gutted the team should be penalized. I can't really find fault with alca other than poor ethics.
 
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Originally posted by Yard Dog
The problem is that, no one should have been able to join one of the newly created teams if the were over such a level. Bringing level 16's to come play against level 10's is jsut ridiculous...


I think i will propose a change whereby you will have to be within a certain level range of the league average where you are being traded to. For instance a level 7 could trade up to any league they wanted, but a level 15 would have to be within a certain range to trade down into a league with a lower average level. Another idea would be to not only hit chemistry but make it so recently traded players would have to sit out a few games before gaining eligibility, sort of like college transfers.
 
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It's the fact that cash means nothing in this league. If cash were an issue, no way could someone hire ten mercenaries off the FA wire without bankrupting their team. If they wanted to do that for one season, fine....but here he could sign them all for peanuts because of the way the game is designed.

A bunch of pro's go back to high school ball is basically what this is. And they go there not for cash but to beat up on the high school kids. Unrealistic.
 
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Originally posted by shacky21
It's the fact that cash means nothing in this league. If cash were an issue, no way could someone hire ten mercenaries off the FA wire without bankrupting their team. If they wanted to do that for one season, fine....but here he could sign them all for peanuts because of the way the game is designed.

A bunch of pro's go back to high school ball is basically what this is. And they go there not for cash but to beat up on the high school kids. Unrealistic.


I play on an old timers softball league, where good players are forced to play in the higher leagues!
 
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Originally posted by Yard Dog
Originally posted by shacky21

It's the fact that cash means nothing in this league. If cash were an issue, no way could someone hire ten mercenaries off the FA wire without bankrupting their team. If they wanted to do that for one season, fine....but here he could sign them all for peanuts because of the way the game is designed.

A bunch of pro's go back to high school ball is basically what this is. And they go there not for cash but to beat up on the high school kids. Unrealistic.


I play on an old timers softball league, where good players are forced to play in the higher leagues!


that is a good fix. set a lvl where at the start of the season, if you are above that lvl you cannot join the lower league.
 
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Originally posted by General Terms
Originally posted by Yard Dog

The problem is that, no one should have been able to join one of the newly created teams if the were over such a level. Bringing level 16's to come play against level 10's is jsut ridiculous...


I think i will propose a change whereby you will have to be within a certain level range of the league average where you are being traded to. For instance a level 7 could trade up to any league they wanted, but a level 15 would have to be within a certain range to trade down into a league with a lower average level. Another idea would be to not only hit chemistry but make it so recently traded players would have to sit out a few games before gaining eligibility, sort of like college transfers.


You say this and you got LVL 14 and 15 guys on you team. You should cut these gus then, it's not fair. There is one guy on the team that is a lvl 17, other then that they only have what you have too. I should be the one bitching my highest lvl playere is a lvl 11.

 
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I like the idea for the most part, but lets say I want to trade my top 3 CB's that are all level 10's. For 1 standout CB that is level 16. Now your saying that trading all my depth for 1 higher leveled guy can't be done. Their needs to be a cap on the introduced FA levels and a group of people viewing trades.
 
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Originally posted by winchester
Originally posted by General Terms

Originally posted by Yard Dog


The problem is that, no one should have been able to join one of the newly created teams if the were over such a level. Bringing level 16's to come play against level 10's is jsut ridiculous...


I think i will propose a change whereby you will have to be within a certain level range of the league average where you are being traded to. For instance a level 7 could trade up to any league they wanted, but a level 15 would have to be within a certain range to trade down into a league with a lower average level. Another idea would be to not only hit chemistry but make it so recently traded players would have to sit out a few games before gaining eligibility, sort of like college transfers.


You say this and you got LVL 14 and 15 guys on you team. You should cut these gus then, it's not fair. There is one guy on the team that is a lvl 17, other then that they only have what you have too. I should be the one bitching my highest lvl playere is a lvl 11.



you are bitching
 
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Originally posted by shacky21
Originally posted by winchester

Originally posted by General Terms


Originally posted by Yard Dog



The problem is that, no one should have been able to join one of the newly created teams if the were over such a level. Bringing level 16's to come play against level 10's is jsut ridiculous...


I think i will propose a change whereby you will have to be within a certain level range of the league average where you are being traded to. For instance a level 7 could trade up to any league they wanted, but a level 15 would have to be within a certain range to trade down into a league with a lower average level. Another idea would be to not only hit chemistry but make it so recently traded players would have to sit out a few games before gaining eligibility, sort of like college transfers.


You say this and you got LVL 14 and 15 guys on you team. You should cut these gus then, it's not fair. There is one guy on the team that is a lvl 17, other then that they only have what you have too. I should be the one bitching my highest lvl playere is a lvl 11.



you are bitching


I dont see anything wrong with what he did, I am not bitching, I am defending the guy.
 
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Originally posted by Alcapown
Thank you Bixby for your support, Im glad some dont just point fingers, I did not cheat nor will I ever. I understand all sides of the spectrum, but one thing is for sure I cant wait to get out of this league, Ive never seen so many people jump to conclusions and try to tarnish my rep before even trying to learn all the facts. And ya,to get back to football. We are in one of the most competitive leagues, this should be an awesome playoff coming up!


Ok Alcapown, so in order to enable Goal Line Blitz god mode you hit L1 and R1 at the same time then press triangle, square, circle, circle, up arrow, and left.

Just because you can do a thing doesn't mean you should do a thing. Using a cheat code on PS or gutting a team may not make you feel like a cheater so much as a guy who sleeps with another mans wife but it is nevertheless still taking the fun out of things for everyone else here and that is ethically bankrupt. You know damn well the truth of that, if you didnt before then the response that your actions have garnered on this forum certainly has informed you by now.

So enjoy your hollow victory while your team of ringers racks up stats and Ws that because of the unfair advantage really mean absolutely nothing, just like when you beat Super Mario Party after having inputed L1 and R1 at the same time then press triangle, square, circle, circle, up arrow, and left.


To everyone else I hereby gloss Alcapown's team the Cheattanooga Spanish Para-Lympians. Check the link below to find out why:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_at_the_Paralympic_Games
 
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that reminds me of the movie "The Ringer"
 
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Originally posted by winchester
Most of the guys on here bitching have LVL 13, 14, 15, and 16 guys on your team so WTF. We still beat this team and our highest rated player at the time was a LVL 10 (only and hand full). I think it is kinda funny that all of you are bitching about how he got this guys when yall have tons of your own guys on your team or a bunch of you buddy’s players on your team. Its ridicules…..a good game plane can take away these guys, move on, get over it. Most teams have better backups then I have starters, you hear me on hear crying like a little girl…..no you don’t. The guy has the players, game plan for them and get over it. You may have to put a few more minutes into your game planning, MOVE ON. He did nothing wrong. If most of you owners could have gotten these guys you would have too….fuck’n funny, throwing rocks in glass houses.


The difference is that our players were gotten by developing them from the ground up or recruiting them piece by piece as free agents with a great deal of time patience and above all else INTEGRITY. I am confused as to why you have so frequently tried to defend a guy who gutted a team? Perhaps your standards are lower than everyone else. Perhaps Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens are your two favorite ball players.
 
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Originally posted by General Terms
Originally posted by Alcapown

Thank you Bixby for your support, Im glad some dont just point fingers, I did not cheat nor will I ever. I understand all sides of the spectrum, but one thing is for sure I cant wait to get out of this league, Ive never seen so many people jump to conclusions and try to tarnish my rep before even trying to learn all the facts. And ya,to get back to football. We are in one of the most competitive leagues, this should be an awesome playoff coming up!


Ok Alcapown, so in order to enable Goal Line Blitz god mode you hit L1 and R1 at the same time then press triangle, square, circle, circle, up arrow, and left.

Just because you can do a thing doesn't mean you should do a thing. Using a cheat code on PS or gutting a team may not make you feel like a cheater so much as a guy who sleeps with another mans wife but it is nevertheless still taking the fun out of things for everyone else here and that is ethically bankrupt. You know damn well the truth of that, if you didnt before then the response that your actions have garnered on this forum certainly has informed you by now.

So enjoy your hollow victory while your team of ringers racks up stats and Ws that because of the unfair advantage really mean absolutely nothing, just like when you beat Super Mario Party after having inputed L1 and R1 at the same time then press triangle, square, circle, circle, up arrow, and left.


To everyone else I hereby gloss Alcapown's team the Cheattanooga Spanish Para-Lympians. Check the link below to find out why:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_at_the_Paralympic_Games


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